[gentoo-user] Re: problem with v86d

2014-06-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 11/06/14 08:14, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:

Hi.  Does anyone have a clue as to why v86d should suddenly start being
very cpu intensive on my computer?  When I first boot its fine (using
either systemd or openrc), but after a while -- maybe  a day or two it
starts using up lots of cpu and definitely increases the load average
and slows down things.  I notice this has not changed in several years,
so I am wondering if it is not working as it used to?

Thanks in advance for any ideas.


It's probably not v86d itself, but whoever is using it. But I don't know 
how to find out for sure.


I didn't notice anything like that myself though. But that might be 
because my machine isn't running for that long (I turn off my PC when I 
don't need it.)





[gentoo-user] Re: problem with v86d

2014-06-11 Thread James
 covici at ccs.covici.com writes:


 Hi.  Does anyone have a clue as to why v86d should suddenly start being
 very cpu intensive on my computer?  When I first boot its fine (using
 either systemd or openrc), but after a while -- maybe  a day or two it
 starts using up lots of cpu and definitely increases the load average
 and slows down things.  I notice this has not changed in several years,
 so I am wondering if it is not working as it used to? 
 Thanks in advance for any ideas.


Ok so the first thing I noticed:


http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/uvesafb/
You don't have permission to access /~spock/projects/uvesafb/ on this server.

So you need to drop the (gentoo-dev) a line about where to look at his 
sources

Now looking at the flags {debug x86emu} I see:


sys-apps/v86d: Use x86emu for Video BIOS calls

If you've been reading the gentoo user list, you can see
much has changed with frame buffers and video drivers recently
in the kernel. The best place to start reading is posting on 
25/may/2014 by Greg Turner.


My best guess is changes in the kernel affect your emulation,
and you'll have much digging to do, if the gentoo -dev that
develops/maintains that code does not drop a hint onto your
questions as to waz sup with x86emu.

Are there any notes when you compile it?  News?   Read the comments
in the ebuild as to new problems?

good hunting.


hth,
James







Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem with v86d

2014-06-11 Thread covici
James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:

  covici at ccs.covici.com writes:
 
 
  Hi.  Does anyone have a clue as to why v86d should suddenly start being
  very cpu intensive on my computer?  When I first boot its fine (using
  either systemd or openrc), but after a while -- maybe  a day or two it
  starts using up lots of cpu and definitely increases the load average
  and slows down things.  I notice this has not changed in several years,
  so I am wondering if it is not working as it used to? 
  Thanks in advance for any ideas.
 
 
 Ok so the first thing I noticed:
 
 
 http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/uvesafb/
 You don't have permission to access /~spock/projects/uvesafb/ on this server.
 
 So you need to drop the (gentoo-dev) a line about where to look at his 
 sources
 
 Now looking at the flags {debug x86emu} I see:
 
 
 sys-apps/v86d: Use x86emu for Video BIOS calls
 
 If you've been reading the gentoo user list, you can see
 much has changed with frame buffers and video drivers recently
 in the kernel. The best place to start reading is posting on 
 25/may/2014 by Greg Turner.
 
 
 My best guess is changes in the kernel affect your emulation,
 and you'll have much digging to do, if the gentoo -dev that
 develops/maintains that code does not drop a hint onto your
 questions as to waz sup with x86emu.
 
 Are there any notes when you compile it?  News?   Read the comments
 in the ebuild as to new problems?
 
 good hunting.

Thanks.  I have a fairly old kernel for other reasons and I installed
v86d in 2011 and it has not changed since.   I use udesafb because I
want a frame buffer so I can get a lot more than 80x25 in a virtual
console.  Iget 64x160.  I also need something which will net the nvidia
driver work since this is the card I have.  I did try the noveau driver,
but it did not give me as large of a screen and nvidia driver did not
like that driver.  I can't remember what it complained about, but it
means no X at all.

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



[gentoo-user] Re: problem with v86d

2014-06-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 11/06/14 17:49, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:

Thanks.  I have a fairly old kernel for other reasons and I installed
v86d in 2011 and it has not changed since.   I use udesafb because I
want a frame buffer so I can get a lot more than 80x25 in a virtual
console.  Iget 64x160.  I also need something which will net the nvidia
driver work since this is the card I have.  I did try the noveau driver,
but it did not give me as large of a screen and nvidia driver did not
like that driver.  I can't remember what it complained about, but it
means no X at all.


If you're not booting in EFI mode, then you can use vesafb instead. This 
doesn't require v86d and doesn't even require an initrd.


uvesafb is mostly for non-PC or generally platforms where a BIOS is not 
available (EFI on a PC also lacks BIOS), and it achieves that through 
v86d. vesafb uses the BIOS directly, so v86d is not needed.





[gentoo-user] Re: problem with v86d

2014-06-11 Thread James
Nikos Chantziaras realnc at gmail.com writes:


  like that driver.  I can't remember what it complained about, but it
  means no X at all.
 
 If you're not booting in EFI mode, then you can use vesafb instead. This 
 doesn't require v86d and doesn't even require an initrd.
 
 uvesafb is mostly for non-PC or generally platforms where a BIOS is not 
 available (EFI on a PC also lacks BIOS), and it achieves that through 
 v86d. vesafb uses the BIOS directly, so v86d is not needed.

Spock is Michał Januszewski

A physics type with keen interests in chipsets; loads of Frame
Buffer info on his blog. He'd be a keen resource for you. Seems 
he has vanished from the gentoo scene?

sp...@gentoo.org

http://mjanusz.wordpress.com/

http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=XSjXVbQJhl=en

http://mjanusz.github.io/homepage/

I'd rather think he's one of those really sharp but hidden
physics folks, who very much likes Gentoo and privacy.


hth,
James




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem with v86d

2014-06-11 Thread covici
James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:

 Nikos Chantziaras realnc at gmail.com writes:
 
 
   like that driver.  I can't remember what it complained about, but it
   means no X at all.
  
  If you're not booting in EFI mode, then you can use vesafb instead. This 
  doesn't require v86d and doesn't even require an initrd.
  
  uvesafb is mostly for non-PC or generally platforms where a BIOS is not 
  available (EFI on a PC also lacks BIOS), and it achieves that through 
  v86d. vesafb uses the BIOS directly, so v86d is not needed.
 
 Spock is Michał Januszewski
 
 A physics type with keen interests in chipsets; loads of Frame
 Buffer info on his blog. He'd be a keen resource for you. Seems 
 he has vanished from the gentoo scene?
 
 sp...@gentoo.org
 
 http://mjanusz.wordpress.com/
 
 http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=XSjXVbQJhl=en
 
 http://mjanusz.github.io/homepage/
 
 I'd rather think he's one of those really sharp but hidden
 physics folks, who very much likes Gentoo and privacy.

I will check him out, I have been using uvesafb for years.

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com