Re: [gentoo-user] Re: which syslog?
quoth the kashani: > darren kirby wrote: > > quoth the Sven Köhler: > >>> It does not read /etc/syslog.conf, it > >>> reads /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf for it's configuration. Chances are > >>> the default is to send most everything to messages > >> > >> Yes, that's the default. > >> > >> And actually, i don't want to configure all my machines. I would prefer > >> a more suitable default config. > > > > You're using the wrong OS then ;) > > > > Is it really too hard to copy and paste the config from the quickstart > > guide that Galevsky posted a link to? > > > > -d > > Sane defaults, which Gentoo has most of the time, would be nice in this > case. Oddly Gentoo used to include a nice syslog-ng.conf back in > 2003/2004 which was dropped in favor of the current lobotomized conf file. > > kashani Perhaps we need an enhancement bug. See if it gains any traction. I can only imagine that the syslog-ng dev(s) thinks /var/log/messages alone is the sane default. Oh, here it is: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108313 -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org "...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected..." - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: which syslog?
quoth the Sven Köhler: > > It does not read /etc/syslog.conf, it > > reads /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf for it's configuration. Chances are > > the default is to send most everything to messages > > Yes, that's the default. > > And actually, i don't want to configure all my machines. I would prefer > a more suitable default config. You're using the wrong OS then ;) Is it really too hard to copy and paste the config from the quickstart guide that Galevsky posted a link to? -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org "...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected..." - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: which syslog?
Sven Köhler wrote: > But i guess, they have a more suitable default setting. Everything going > to /var/log/messes is just to simple, i think. Actually i don't want the > layout to be like sysklogd. But i would like a little more complicated > default setting. Okay, in that case, I'll say that metalog has a very-sensible-to-me default setting, tweaking which I resisted for quite some time. What seems sensible to me might be lunacy to you, however, so have a go at it and see for yourself. Anno. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: which syslog?
http://gentoo-wiki.com/Syslog-ng Is that kind of conf (described in Quick Start section) far away from what you are looking for ? Gal' 2007/5/30, Sven Köhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I am curious, though: If you like the sysklogd > layout to the point that you want to replicate it exactly in other log > daemons, why do you want to switch log daemons? Last sysklogd version if from 2001. And portage contains 1.4.2_pre2007* versions. This was curious to me. And on the other hand, other distributions don't use sysklogd anymore. Instead they use syslog-ng, for example. But i guess, they have a more suitable default setting. Everything going to /var/log/messes is just to simple, i think. Actually i don't want the layout to be like sysklogd. But i would like a little more complicated default setting. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: which syslog?
I am curious, though: If you like the sysklogd > layout to the point that you want to replicate it exactly in other log > daemons, why do you want to switch log daemons? Last sysklogd version if from 2001. And portage contains 1.4.2_pre2007* versions. This was curious to me. And on the other hand, other distributions don't use sysklogd anymore. Instead they use syslog-ng, for example. But i guess, they have a more suitable default setting. Everything going to /var/log/messes is just to simple, i think. Actually i don't want the layout to be like sysklogd. But i would like a little more complicated default setting. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Re: which syslog?
Sven Köhler wrote: > So the next thing i could try is metalog. > > Does it have a nice default config? I think so, but I did modify it to better suit my needs. It doesn't need logrotate, which IMHO is a big plus, and I find its filters much easier to set up than syslog-ng's. I am curious, though: If you like the sysklogd layout to the point that you want to replicate it exactly in other log daemons, why do you want to switch log daemons? Anno. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list