[gentoo-user] Re: xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)

2010-09-03 Thread James
Daniel da Veiga danieldaveiga at gmail.com writes:


 I would advice the OP to try again what I suggested, I have a very
 similar Samsung TV/Monitor, and using DVI and VGA works perfectly with
 the computer, but I started using an HDMI cable, and the image would
 distort, all borders would be missing, till I change the name of the
 HDMI2 (the one I'm using) to PC. Voila, everything to the right
 place.

 That's not written at the manual (neither yours, not the one for my
 TV), I learned it using a forum for HTPC owners.


My 2333HD-1 only has one hdmi input, and the name cannot be changed.

I used hdmi on the video card and DVI-D on the monitor, and
the resolution is as it should be, with no over-scanning.


Thanks for the input.


James








Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)

2010-08-30 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:18 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
 Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail.com writes:


 I just looked at the manual for this TV online and it looks like it
 has Just Scan mode which could potentially show you the original
 image by pressing the P.SIZE button on the remote control. So you
 might want to try again to see if this option does what you need. :)


 THANKS, never tried that button. It does not permanently set though...

 the default is 16:9 (which should work), 'wide fit',
 then 4:3, then 'just scan'.

 'just scan' does the trick.
  It does not permanently set though...

 What's the link to the manual...?
 I never could find it.

http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/200911/20091103184905109/BN59-00785F-02Eng.pdf

Good luck! :)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)

2010-08-30 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:31, Paul Hartman
paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:18 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
 Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail.com writes:


 I just looked at the manual for this TV online and it looks like it
 has Just Scan mode which could potentially show you the original
 image by pressing the P.SIZE button on the remote control. So you
 might want to try again to see if this option does what you need. :)


 THANKS, never tried that button. It does not permanently set though...

 the default is 16:9 (which should work), 'wide fit',
 then 4:3, then 'just scan'.

 'just scan' does the trick.
  It does not permanently set though...

 What's the link to the manual...?
 I never could find it.

 http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/200911/20091103184905109/BN59-00785F-02Eng.pdf


Accourding to the manual, it is possible to change the input source name.

I would advice the OP to try again what I suggested, I have a very
similar Samsung TV/Monitor, and using DVI and VGA works perfectly with
the computer, but I started using an HDMI cable, and the image would
distort, all borders would be missing, till I change the name of the
HDMI2 (the one I'm using) to PC. Voila, everything to the right
place.

That's not written at the manual (neither yours, not the one for my
TV), I learned it using a forum for HTPC owners.

-- 
Daniel da Veiga



[gentoo-user] Re: xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)

2010-08-27 Thread James
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail.com writes:


 Is the monitor doing overscan on HDMI?

I'd assume the monitor (HDMI input) is doing the overscan,
since HDMI is suppose to be 'smart'. 
That what the link suggested.

 Is the ATI driver doing underscan on HDMI based on the assumption that
 the monitor will overscan?
NO, it works find with a dvi-d 2 dvi-d cable. The computer is
always dvi-d (to either dvi-d cable 1 or hdmi cable 2)..
so how could ati-driver be doing the hdmi (embedded) protocol?

 Check if your monitor on-screen menu has overscan settings (or change
 it to PC Mode or something, the manufacturers all have different
 terminology). Otherwise if it has no settings you'll have to conitunue
 messing with the ATI drivers instead.

NO, the only  pc setting is when you use a standard 15 pin
VGA cable and no protocol to adjust scan or scan ratesss


I'm guessing I stuck with xorg.conf machinations.
(oh boy, here we go again..)

Ideas?


James





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)

2010-08-27 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 2:00 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
 Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail.com writes:


 Is the monitor doing overscan on HDMI?

 I'd assume the monitor (HDMI input) is doing the overscan,
 since HDMI is suppose to be 'smart'.
 That what the link suggested.

 Is the ATI driver doing underscan on HDMI based on the assumption that
 the monitor will overscan?
 NO, it works find with a dvi-d 2 dvi-d cable. The computer is
 always dvi-d (to either dvi-d cable 1 or hdmi cable 2)..
 so how could ati-driver be doing the hdmi (embedded) protocol?

 Check if your monitor on-screen menu has overscan settings (or change
 it to PC Mode or something, the manufacturers all have different
 terminology). Otherwise if it has no settings you'll have to conitunue
 messing with the ATI drivers instead.

 NO, the only  pc setting is when you use a standard 15 pin
 VGA cable and no protocol to adjust scan or scan ratesss


 I'm guessing I stuck with xorg.conf machinations.
 (oh boy, here we go again..)

 Ideas?

I just looked at the manual for this TV online and it looks like it
has Just Scan mode which could potentially show you the original
image by pressing the P.SIZE button on the remote control. So you
might want to try again to see if this option does what you need. :)



[gentoo-user] Re: xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)

2010-08-27 Thread James
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail.com writes:


 I just looked at the manual for this TV online and it looks like it
 has Just Scan mode which could potentially show you the original
 image by pressing the P.SIZE button on the remote control. So you
 might want to try again to see if this option does what you need. :)


THANKS, never tried that button. It does not permanently set though...

the default is 16:9 (which should work), 'wide fit', 
then 4:3, then 'just scan'.

'just scan' does the trick.
 It does not permanently set though...

What's the link to the manual...?
I never could find it.


TIA,
James







[gentoo-user] Re: xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)

2010-08-27 Thread James
Daniel da Veiga danieldaveiga at gmail.com writes:


 Have you tried setting the INPUT NAME of the HDMI to PC using the
 remote (on TV)?
 My Samsung does the same, after I set my HDMI as PC everything is at
 the right place.


Can only do this on the PC selection which only works when
a standard 15 pin VGA cable is used...


James 







[gentoo-user] Re: xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)

2010-08-27 Thread James
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes:

 You have nothing to fear from fiddling with clock settings on a flat panel.
 The owrst you can do is to get no picture.


Good to know.

thx
James






[gentoo-user] Re: xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)

2010-08-27 Thread James
Jason Carson jason at jasoncarson.ca writes:


 Can you set overscan to 0% in the ATI Catalyst Control Center. Does that
 make a difference?


Dunno know. 'ATI catalyst Control Center' will not
launch from KDE menu system(strange)

Ideas on what to recompile?

ati-drivers? emerge -1 `qlist -I -C x11-drivers`

has already been ran several times today

???
Can I lauch it (syntax) from the command line?
(as root?)


James