Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry about the spam
Questions: 1) why should i contribute to your fund instead of directly contributing to the funds or companies that maintain the linux distribution that i use. 2) There is already a linux standard base www.linuxbase.org...why another one that nobody follows 3) how can your overhead be minimal or nothing ?...the best charitable organizations have 20% overhead... zero overhead implies contribute directly without going through third parties which you are.. 4) better the community ? with what better human beings ? 5) what's the criteria of who deserves to be paid by the money you collect ? Cheers, K On 1/10/06, Mark Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really, I should have thought more about the first e-mail (oops). Thank you for all your comments! Here is what the goal is (as of now): - To have some kind of useful standard among the many distributions. - To compensate those who need or want compensation for their hard work. (The laborer is worthy of his/her wages.) - Community moderated, no controlling overhead like Microsoft. - Whatever they release will be completely free software. No strings. United means we help each other develop and improve Linux software--separately. So no united. That's optional for now. How can people be interested? - It is just a fund paid by the community for the community - Overhead will be minimal, if anything. - People are already interested in Linux, and they would like to donate to a worthy cause. (Yes, this does mean that we would have to be worthy) What's the point? - Make Linux better - Increase Linux users (Microsoft users might convert) - Better the community - Pay people who deserve it Really, we could make Gentoo the official distribution of Saviour Linux. Personally, I think it is the best. Mark Stewart -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry about the spam
There's a standard too, it's called posix, or Unix, but nobody uses it ;-) Justin On 1/11/06, Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/11/06, Mark Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really, I should have thought more about the first e-mail (oops). Thank you for all your comments! Here is what the goal is (as of now): - To have some kind of useful standard among the many distributions. - To compensate those who need or want compensation for their hard work. (The laborer is worthy of his/her wages.) - Community moderated, no controlling overhead like Microsoft. - Whatever they release will be completely free software. No strings. United means we help each other develop and improve Linux software--separately. So no united. That's optional for now. How can people be interested? - It is just a fund paid by the community for the community - Overhead will be minimal, if anything. - People are already interested in Linux, and they would like to donate to a worthy cause. (Yes, this does mean that we would have to be worthy) What's the point? - Make Linux better - Increase Linux users (Microsoft users might convert) - Better the community - Pay people who deserve it Really, we could make Gentoo the official distribution of Saviour Linux. Personally, I think it is the best. I guess you just named Saviour a project to fund a distribution, if I got what you mean, anyway, quotting Gentoo.org: The Gentoo Foundation has been created to provide financial caretaking, juridical protection and oversee general Gentoo development to keep it in line with the Social Contract. We already have that... In fact, many of the aspects of what you say Saviour would be already exists and are at heavy development as we type, and its called, Gentoo Linux ;) Mark Stewart -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Justin W. Hart -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry about the spam
So in reality Saviour Linux will not be a disturbution of it's own just a branch of Gentoo (for example) That is my take on it. On 1/11/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Stewart wrote: Really, we could make Gentoo the official distribution of Saviour Linux. Personally, I think it is the best. Mark Stewart So you want to sell Gentoo Linux? This is confusing me. For once I have been up a while and am not sleepy yet so I should be able to get this. I'm still confused though. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. Named Smoker 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. Named Swifty 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. Named Pokey 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. Named Putput All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry about the spam
On 1/11/06, Mark Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really, I should have thought more about the first e-mail (oops). Thank you for all your comments! Here is what the goal is (as of now): - To have some kind of useful standard among the many distributions. - To compensate those who need or want compensation for their hard work. (The laborer is worthy of his/her wages.) - Community moderated, no controlling overhead like Microsoft. - Whatever they release will be completely free software. No strings. United means we help each other develop and improve Linux software--separately. So no united. That's optional for now. How can people be interested? - It is just a fund paid by the community for the community - Overhead will be minimal, if anything. - People are already interested in Linux, and they would like to donate to a worthy cause. (Yes, this does mean that we would have to be worthy) What's the point? - Make Linux better - Increase Linux users (Microsoft users might convert) - Better the community - Pay people who deserve it Really, we could make Gentoo the official distribution of Saviour Linux. Personally, I think it is the best. I guess you just named Saviour a project to fund a distribution, if I got what you mean, anyway, quotting Gentoo.org: The Gentoo Foundation has been created to provide financial caretaking, juridical protection and oversee general Gentoo development to keep it in line with the Social Contract. We already have that... In fact, many of the aspects of what you say Saviour would be already exists and are at heavy development as we type, and its called, Gentoo Linux ;) Mark Stewart -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Sorry about the spam
Really, I should have thought more about the first e-mail (oops). Thank you for all your comments! Here is what the goal is (as of now): - To have some kind of useful standard among the many distributions. - To compensate those who need or want compensation for their hard work. (The laborer is worthy of his/her wages.) - Community moderated, no controlling overhead like Microsoft. - Whatever they release will be completely free software. No strings. United means we help each other develop and improve Linux software--separately. So no united. That's optional for now. How can people be interested? - It is just a fund paid by the community for the community - Overhead will be minimal, if anything. - People are already interested in Linux, and they would like to donate to a worthy cause. (Yes, this does mean that we would have to be worthy) What's the point? - Make Linux better - Increase Linux users (Microsoft users might convert) - Better the community - Pay people who deserve it Really, we could make Gentoo the official distribution of Saviour Linux. Personally, I think it is the best. Mark Stewart -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry about the spam
Mark Stewart wrote: Really, we could make Gentoo the official distribution of Saviour Linux. Personally, I think it is the best. Mark Stewart So you want to sell Gentoo Linux? This is confusing me. For once I have been up a while and am not sleepy yet so I should be able to get this. I'm still confused though. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. Named Smoker 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. Named Swifty 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. Named Pokey 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. Named Putput All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list