[gentoo-user] Splitting .mov files

2008-04-26 Thread Mick
Hi All,

I have a rather large .mov file which I want to split into two separate files.  
What options are available to me?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Splitting .mov files

2008-04-26 Thread Hal Martin
I assume you want each piece of this file to be play-able? If you don't
care about that, just use split to chop them up into your desired size
and then use cat to reassemble them at the destination.

*$ split –bytes=1m /path/to/large/file /path/to/output/file/prefix*

'man split' will also contain this information.

-Hal

Mick wrote:
 Hi All,

 I have a rather large .mov file which I want to split into two separate 
 files.  
 What options are available to me?
   

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Re: [gentoo-user] Splitting .mov files

2008-04-26 Thread Mick
On Saturday 26 April 2008, Hal Martin wrote:
 I assume you want each piece of this file to be play-able? If you don't
 care about that, just use split to chop them up into your desired size
 and then use cat to reassemble them at the destination.

 *$ split –bytes=1m /path/to/large/file /path/to/output/file/prefix*

 'man split' will also contain this information.

Thanks!  I didn't know about split.

I am afraid that the split files have to be playable.  I intend to upload them 
on a server for a MSWindows user to download and play.  It has to be point  
click skill level at the receiving end.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Splitting .mov files

2008-04-26 Thread Florian Philipp

On Sat, 2008-04-26 at 19:56 +0100, Mick wrote:
 On Saturday 26 April 2008, Hal Martin wrote:
  I assume you want each piece of this file to be play-able? If you don't
  care about that, just use split to chop them up into your desired size
  and then use cat to reassemble them at the destination.
 
  *$ split –bytes=1m /path/to/large/file /path/to/output/file/prefix*
 
  'man split' will also contain this information.
 
 Thanks!  I didn't know about split.
 
 I am afraid that the split files have to be playable.  I intend to upload 
 them 
 on a server for a MSWindows user to download and play.  It has to be point  
 click skill level at the receiving end.

Hmm, theoretically it should be possible without re-encoding because
video files contain I-frames which are encoded without reference to
previous frames every x frames. With a media player you can only seek
through a video from I-frame to I-frame (I think ...).

If that assumption is right, it should be a relatively easy task.
Something like this might work:

mencoder -vf harddup -ovc copy -oac copy -of lavf -lavfopts format=mov
-ss 1:30 -endpos 3:00 -o output.mov input.mov

explanation:
-vf harddup - don't skip duplicate frames
-ovc copy; -oac copy - don't re-encode audio and video
-of lavf - use lavf for muxing
-lavfopts format=mov - mux into mov-format
-ss 1:30 - skip the first 1 min + 30 sec
-endpos 3:00 - end input at position 3:00 min of the original film
-o output.mov - write to output.mov

This command should result in a file containing a total of
3:00-1:30=1:30 min of film, however, seeking might be inaccurate
(searches next or previous I-frame) so both videos might overlap for
maybe a second or two or you could loose that amount time therefor
tweaking might be necessary.

Unfortunately, I couldn't test this because I have no suitable video
file at hand. If it works, tell me please, if not, post your results,
maybe I can look further into it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Splitting .mov files

2008-04-26 Thread luis jure
El Sat, 26 Apr 2008 22:06:52 +0200
Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 
 mencoder -vf harddup -ovc copy -oac copy -of lavf -lavfopts format=mov
 -ss 1:30 -endpos 3:00 -o output.mov input.mov
 
 explanation:
[...]
 -ss 1:30 - skip the first 1 min + 30 sec
 -endpos 3:00 - end input at position 3:00 min of the original film
 -o output.mov - write to output.mov
 
 This command should result in a file containing a total of
 3:00-1:30=1:30 min of film [...]

i think this is not entirely correct. according to the manual, 
When used in conjunction with −ss option, −endpos time will shift
forward by seconds specified with −ss.

that means that if you want 90 seconds of film, you must use -endpos 90
or -endpos 1:30, independently from the time given in -ss. see the
example from the man page:

EXAMPLE:
−endpos 56
Stop at 56 seconds.
−endpos 01:10:00
Stop at 1 hour 10 minutes.
−ss 10 −endpos 56
Stop at 1 minute 6 seconds.
^^

best,

lj
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Re: [gentoo-user] Splitting .mov files

2008-04-26 Thread Florian Philipp

On Sat, 2008-04-26 at 18:43 -0300, luis jure wrote:
 El Sat, 26 Apr 2008 22:06:52 +0200
 Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
 
  
  mencoder -vf harddup -ovc copy -oac copy -of lavf -lavfopts format=mov
  -ss 1:30 -endpos 3:00 -o output.mov input.mov
  
  explanation:
 [...]
  -ss 1:30 - skip the first 1 min + 30 sec
  -endpos 3:00 - end input at position 3:00 min of the original film
  -o output.mov - write to output.mov
  
  This command should result in a file containing a total of
  3:00-1:30=1:30 min of film [...]
 
 i think this is not entirely correct. according to the manual, 
 When used in conjunction with −ss option, −endpos time will shift
 forward by seconds specified with −ss.
 
 that means that if you want 90 seconds of film, you must use -endpos 90
 or -endpos 1:30, independently from the time given in -ss. see the
 example from the man page:
 
 EXAMPLE:
 −endpos 56
   Stop at 56 seconds.
 −endpos 01:10:00
   Stop at 1 hour 10 minutes.
 −ss 10 −endpos 56
   Stop at 1 minute 6 seconds.
   ^^
 
 best,
 
 lj

Thanks for the hint. Unfortunately, my method doesn't work anyway (I've
found a file on which I could test it).The video gets some really ugly
artifacts and seems to be damaged. Of course, your millage might vary if
you use another encoding than me.


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