Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

2006-05-06 Thread Alexander Skwar

Mick wrote:

On 05/05/06, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


What model?  You throw OpenWRT on it, if possible, and then all your
documentation is then online. :)  FWIW, Most linksys models automatically
(layer-3) bridge 802.11a/b/g and all wired connections exception for
the 'WAN' port, so you should be able to see each other unless on is using
the WAN (but then your Internet would probably be having problems, too.)


Very interesting!  Will it work with netgear routers?


The OpenWRT page has an extensive list of supported hardware.

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OpenWRT on Netgear (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-()

2006-05-06 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 05 May 2006 18:05, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Waay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to 
ask. :-(':
 On 05/05/06, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What model?  You throw OpenWRT on it, if possible, and then all your
  documentation is then online. :)  FWIW, Most linksys models
  automatically (layer-3) bridge 802.11a/b/g and all wired connections
  exception for the 'WAN' port, so you should be able to see each other
  unless on is using the WAN (but then your Internet would probably be
  having problems, too.)

 Very interesting!  Will it work with netgear routers?

Some, to various degrees:
http://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware
http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware

I've never tried it because I only own a old Linksys WRT54G.

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Re: OpenWRT on Netgear (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-()

2006-05-06 Thread Mick

On 06/05/06, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Very interesting!  Will it work with netgear routers?

Some, to various degrees:
http://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware
http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware


Thanks, I've had a look and it seems to be work-in-progress.  When it
becomes stable I may have a go.
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Re: OpenWRT on Netgear (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-()

2006-05-06 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Saturday 06 May 2006 05:20, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about 'Re: OpenWRT on Netgear (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Waay [OT] 
Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-()':
 Thanks, I've had a look and it seems to be work-in-progress.  When it
 becomes stable I may have a go.

The project is a Work In Progress only as much as Linux is a work is 
progres: there's active development.  WhiteRussian (the latest release) is 
stable as a rock and has a lot of features.

Now, the Netgear support might not be ready yet.  Maybe that's just a 
feature they they have planned for the next release (not sure if the 
Kamikaze name is like Sid in Debian [always the name of UNSTABLE] or 
not...).  Of course, you can always try Kamakaze.  I've gotten it to build 
cleanly a number of times, but never had the drive to flash it on my WRT 
it.

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Re: OpenWRT on Netgear (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-()

2006-05-06 Thread John J. Foster
On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 10:20:00AM +, Mick wrote:
 
 Thanks, I've had a look and it seems to be work-in-progress.  When it
 becomes stable I may have a go.

I've been running White Russian RC3 for 9 months - zero problems.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

2006-05-05 Thread Alexander Skwar

Ryan Tandy wrote:

 I haven't used Home myself, so I don't know if they're there 
too.


At least ping and traceroute (tracert) are there as well. I think
nslookup might be there as well.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

2006-05-05 Thread Teresa and Dale
Alexander Skwar wrote:

 Ryan Tandy wrote:

  I haven't used Home myself, so I don't know if they're there too.


 At least ping and traceroute (tracert) are there as well. I think
 nslookup might be there as well.

 Alexander Skwar



This is the home edition and ping was not there before.  I just
reinstalled it, it crashed, I may give it another go.  Maybe this
install has it.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

2006-05-05 Thread Mick

On 05/05/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


This is the home edition and ping was not there before.  I just
reinstalled it, it crashed, I may give it another go.  Maybe this
install has it.


The home edition also has the ping command.  Bring up the c: prompt
and ping your Linux box address.  Also, netstat -ano will show you
which ip addresses your windoze box is connected to.

On the other hand, why does it crash?  Are you sure it is an OS
problem and not a hardware problem?  These days a properly configured
and patched Windoze box should be pretty stable.

PS.  Block 135-139, 445 and 3389 ports to/from the Internet at the LAN
periphery.  Otherwise, your box could get backdoored before you even
had a chance to run any M$Windoze updates.  ;-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

2006-05-05 Thread Teresa and Dale
Mick wrote:

 On 05/05/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is the home edition and ping was not there before.  I just
 reinstalled it, it crashed, I may give it another go.  Maybe this
 install has it.


 The home edition also has the ping command.  Bring up the c: prompt
 and ping your Linux box address.  Also, netstat -ano will show you
 which ip addresses your windoze box is connected to.


That was where I went and it said it was not there on the old install. 
I'll try later on the new install.  Maybe, just maybe it will be there.


 On the other hand, why does it crash?  Are you sure it is an OS
 problem and not a hardware problem?  These days a properly configured
 and patched Windoze box should be pretty stable.


It had a bug, she tried to fix it and deleted something.  Boat anchor
after that.  O_O


 PS.  Block 135-139, 445 and 3389 ports to/from the Internet at the LAN
 periphery.  Otherwise, your box could get backdoored before you even
 had a chance to run any M$Windoze updates.  ;-)
 -- 
 Regards,
 Mick


I think most if not all my problem is the Linksys router.  I don't think
I have it set up to let the two systems connect to each other.  I'm not
sure where to even start either.  She lost the book to the thing.  I did
trial and error to get the internet working.

 sighs 

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

2006-05-05 Thread Mick

On 05/05/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I think most if not all my problem is the Linksys router.  I don't think
I have it set up to let the two systems connect to each other.  I'm not
sure where to even start either.  She lost the book to the thing.  I did
trial and error to get the internet working.

 sighs 


Hmm, I know the feeling!  :-))

I guess you could try the Linksys website for a pdf or online manual? 
I'm afraid I haven't ever used linksys to be able to help you.


Good luck.  :-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

2006-05-05 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 05 May 2006 14:23, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Waay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to 
ask. :-(':
 I think most if not all my problem is the Linksys router.  I don't think
 I have it set up to let the two systems connect to each other.  I'm not
 sure where to even start either.  She lost the book to the thing.  I did
 trial and error to get the internet working.

What model?  You throw OpenWRT on it, if possible, and then all your 
documentation is then online. :)  FWIW, Most linksys models automatically 
(layer-3) bridge 802.11a/b/g and all wired connections exception for 
the 'WAN' port, so you should be able to see each other unless on is using 
the WAN (but then your Internet would probably be having problems, too.)

-- 
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it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest
clue what's best for them in terms of package stability.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

2006-05-05 Thread Mick

On 05/05/06, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


What model?  You throw OpenWRT on it, if possible, and then all your
documentation is then online. :)  FWIW, Most linksys models automatically
(layer-3) bridge 802.11a/b/g and all wired connections exception for
the 'WAN' port, so you should be able to see each other unless on is using
the WAN (but then your Internet would probably be having problems, too.)


Very interesting!  Will it work with netgear routers?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

2006-05-05 Thread Ryan Tandy

Teresa and Dale wrote:

It had a bug, she tried to fix it and deleted something.  Boat anchor
after that.  O_O
  
Hence the concept of not running as root...  ;)   (and yes, it can 
apply to non-UNIX systems too)



PS.  Block 135-139, 445 and 3389 ports to/from the Internet at the LAN
periphery.  Otherwise, your box could get backdoored before you even
had a chance to run any M$Windoze updates.  ;-)


Amen.  It's happened to me.


I think most if not all my problem is the Linksys router.  I don't think
I have it set up to let the two systems connect to each other.  I'm not
sure where to even start either.  She lost the book to the thing.  I did
trial and error to get the internet working.
  
The little reset button on the back of the router may just be your 
best friend round about now.  Hold it in with a pen or something for 
about 5 seconds, until it reboots itself.  The default settings for the 
router (disclaimer: all Linksys routers I'm familiar with) make it get 
its external address from DHCP, assign all internal addresses via the 
same, permit all internal-internal and internal-external connections, 
and refuse all external-internal connections.


In any case, Google is your friend...  
http://dotancohen.com/howto/linksyssetup/index.php   and you can Google 
your specific model for even better results.

 sighs 

Dale
:-)
  

Chin up, the worst is yet to come! ;)

And anyway, a Gentoo router  a Linksys one any day. :D
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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

2006-05-04 Thread lordsauronthegreat
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 07:58 pm, Teresa and Dale wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Set up a Samba server...  hmm... KDE Control Centre has a excellent
  interface for that.  Very easy.
 
 In a related story...
 
 The first time I used Samba to do some network transfers I spent ten
  minutes checking file intergrity.  It went so darn fast... I was sure
  something was wrong.  No, it's just that windoze networking is so darn
  slow!  It's now a pain to do anything windoze-to-windoze!  Linux and
  Samba is so much faster!

 I tried the KDE setup but still no go.  I think I need to change
 something in the Linksys router, I'm not sure what though.  I think it
 is working on the Linux end.  I can ping the windoze box from my Linux
 box but I don't know how to do anything on the windoze side.  Pointers??

Windows XP?

My Computer  My Network Places or something like that.

I swear, Windows has been so inconsistent over the years!  I loved how 
networking was organized in 98SE, but in XP the only way to find the network 
neighbourhood area is through a back door in the network settings whatever...  
it's insane.

 Clueless.

Almost as clueless here.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

2006-05-04 Thread Ryan Tandy

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wednesday 03 May 2006 07:58 pm, Teresa and Dale wrote:
  

I can ping the windoze box from my Linux
box but I don't know how to do anything on the windoze side.  Pointers??
XP Home or Pro?  XP Professional, if you open up a Command Prompt (DOS 
box), has a number of the networking commands (ping, nslookup) that 
you're familiar with, although their invocation options are slightly 
different.  I haven't used Home myself, so I don't know if they're there 
too.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

2006-05-03 Thread Mick

On 02/05/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mick wrote:

They're both free and should do the job you want.  Personally,  I use Knoppix
and partimage, but there are other linux tools (down to the relatively basic
dd command) which should do the trick on a VFAT partition.

Crap, I forgot and used NTFS on the thing.   sighs   I wonder if the
newer kernel will write safely yet


Sorry, I didn't explain it appropriately.  Partimage works fine (after
a you thoroughly defragment an NTFS partition) and will create a nice
compressed or uncompressed OS image file which can be saved:
1) on CD's/DVD;
2) on another computer over the network;
3) on another partition on the same machine - the latter cannot be NTFS.

So, you should have no problem trying it out.  After you defragment
your NTFS partition, use gparted (it also comes on LiveCD) to shrink
it and create a new VFAT, ext2, etc. partition on the same disk to
save the image in.  Of course, if the disk decides to pack up . . .
you better have those duplicate CD's handy!  ;-)

Note:  Should you decide to use a VFAT partition beware of its maximum
file size limit.  Use the Partimage slicing feature to save the image
into smaller multiple files.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

2006-05-03 Thread Kris Kerwin
Dale,

I believe that the kernels have been able to write to NTFS safely for 
some time, now.

In fact, as I recall from the last time that I built that 
functionality into my own kernel, menuconfig said that there were 
never any reported problems with the same code that has been in place 
since 2.4. Since there were no reported problems, the code was 
assumed stable.

In short: it's always been able to write safely.

Disclaimer:
IANALKHG
I am not a linux kernel hacker guru

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Kris

On Tuesday 02 May 2006 17:01, Teresa and Dale wrote:
 Mick wrote:
 First defragment her OS partition a couple of times (and reboot in
  between for good measure ;-).  Then you can use a Knoppix or
  other Linux LiveCD on her machine, run partimage and save an
  image of her OS partition on one of your boxen over the LAN.  If
  you don't want to take up too much of your valuable disk space
  you can of course compress the image.  If you rather save it on
  CD's/DVD's partimage can split the image down to smaller file
  sizes.
 
 You can of course also save it on a new partition on her box.
 
 http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page
 
 Another tool which you can use from within Windoze is Bart's PE
  and DriveImage XML (a plugin you can build into Bart's PE
  LiveCD).
 
 http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
 
 http://www.runtime.org/dixml.htm
 
 They're both free and should do the job you want.  Personally,  I
  use Knoppix and partimage, but there are other linux tools (down
  to the relatively basic dd command) which should do the trick on
  a VFAT partition.

 Crap, I forgot and used NTFS on the thing.   sighs   I wonder if
 the newer kernel will write safely yet

 Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

2006-05-03 Thread Teresa and Dale
Kris Kerwin wrote:

Dale,

I believe that the kernels have been able to write to NTFS safely for 
some time, now.

In fact, as I recall from the last time that I built that 
functionality into my own kernel, menuconfig said that there were 
never any reported problems with the same code that has been in place 
since 2.4. Since there were no reported problems, the code was 
assumed stable.

In short: it's always been able to write safely.

Disclaimer:
IANALKHG
I am not a linux kernel hacker guru

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Kris

  



Thanks for that info.  I have this kernel version installed:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # uname -a
 Linux smoker 2.6.14-gentoo-r5 #2 PREEMPT Tue Dec 27 04:46:01 CST 2005
 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500+ GNU/Linux
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /


I'll upgrade eventually.  I have read where people had trouble but they
never say what kernel version they are using so it's hard to tell if it
applies now or not.  I thought it best to err on the side of caution. 
Now I know it's OK and I may just try it with a few files to see what
happens.

I just wish I could put Linux on the stupid thing and be done with it. 
We spent almost $200.00 on that stupid windoze install.

Thanks for the info.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

2006-05-03 Thread lordsauronthegreat
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 02:18 pm, Teresa and Dale wrote:
 Hi,

 OK, here's my deal.  My girlfriend wants to use windoze, yes it has
 already died from a bug and it took a while to get it all back to
 working, again.  This is what I want to do to make it easy when this
 happens again, this is windoze so it will happen, likely sooner rather
 than later too.

I just make sure I don't do anything important on Windoze.  Then if it dies... 
oh well, worse things can happen at sea.

 I want to be able to back her drive up to a CD, the whole thing even if
 it takes a few CDs.  When it dies again, I want to be able to put in the
 first CD and it boot and reinstall everything from there with little
 interaction from me.

 Is there such a creature?  Please tell me it is free.  I'm used to Linux
 remember.

IBM/Lenovo has this neat little Rapid Restore thing which does exactly that.  
I'm not sure it'll work on a non-IBM machine, but it's worth a try.

 I can't believe I let her spend almost $200.00 on that crappie OS.  
 hangs head in shame   She a great person in all other respects though.
 I just have to keep working on this area.

Not everyone is a computer junkie ; )

 Oh, I'm still looking for help with samba share so I can copy her
 documents and such to my rig, since mine seems to always work.  :D
 Again, sorry to ask a windoze question here but it's not like I ask
 anywhere else.

Set up a Samba server...  hmm... KDE Control Centre has a excellent interface 
for that.  Very easy.

In a related story...

The first time I used Samba to do some network transfers I spent ten minutes 
checking file intergrity.  It went so darn fast... I was sure something was 
wrong.  No, it's just that windoze networking is so darn slow!  It's now a 
pain to do anything windoze-to-windoze!  Linux and Samba is so much faster!


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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

2006-05-03 Thread Teresa and Dale
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Set up a Samba server...  hmm... KDE Control Centre has a excellent interface 
for that.  Very easy.

In a related story...

The first time I used Samba to do some network transfers I spent ten minutes 
checking file intergrity.  It went so darn fast... I was sure something was 
wrong.  No, it's just that windoze networking is so darn slow!  It's now a 
pain to do anything windoze-to-windoze!  Linux and Samba is so much faster!
  


I tried the KDE setup but still no go.  I think I need to change
something in the Linksys router, I'm not sure what though.  I think it
is working on the Linux end.  I can ping the windoze box from my Linux
box but I don't know how to do anything on the windoze side.  Pointers??

Clueless.

Dale
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[gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

2006-05-02 Thread Teresa and Dale
Hi,

OK, here's my deal.  My girlfriend wants to use windoze, yes it has
already died from a bug and it took a while to get it all back to
working, again.  This is what I want to do to make it easy when this
happens again, this is windoze so it will happen, likely sooner rather
than later too.

I want to be able to back her drive up to a CD, the whole thing even if
it takes a few CDs.  When it dies again, I want to be able to put in the
first CD and it boot and reinstall everything from there with little
interaction from me.

Is there such a creature?  Please tell me it is free.  I'm used to Linux
remember. 

I can't believe I let her spend almost $200.00 on that crappie OS.  
hangs head in shame   She a great person in all other respects though. 
I just have to keep working on this area.

Thanks

Dale
:-)

Oh, I'm still looking for help with samba share so I can copy her
documents and such to my rig, since mine seems to always work.  :D 
Again, sorry to ask a windoze question here but it's not like I ask
anywhere else. 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

2006-05-02 Thread Daniel da Veiga

On 5/2/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

OK, here's my deal.  My girlfriend wants to use windoze, yes it has
already died from a bug and it took a while to get it all back to
working, again.  This is what I want to do to make it easy when this
happens again, this is windoze so it will happen, likely sooner rather
than later too.

I want to be able to back her drive up to a CD, the whole thing even if
it takes a few CDs.  When it dies again, I want to be able to put in the
first CD and it boot and reinstall everything from there with little
interaction from me.

Is there such a creature?  Please tell me it is free.  I'm used to Linux
remember.

I can't believe I let her spend almost $200.00 on that crappie OS.  
hangs head in shame   She a great person in all other respects though.
I just have to keep working on this area.

Thanks

Dale
:-)



There is g4l (Ghost For Linux), it is still under work I believe, but
it is a great tool, if you never used Ghost (from Symantec) then
you're not familiar with Windows (lol).  It can backup your
disk/partitions and create image files that can be restored later. It
has good compression and I have an image for each Windows Machine here
at work. A whole install with Office and everything goes about 3 CDs.

http://freshmeat.net/projects/g4l/

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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

2006-05-02 Thread David Miller
Partimage works pretty well although not exactly as you described. It requires a linux server to serve the images I believe. There may be a way to use a livecd of some sort to do it locally as you described.Otherwise the not free/opensource solution is Norton Ghost.
--DavidOn 5/2/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,OK, here's my deal.My girlfriend wants to use windoze, yes it hasalready died from a bug and it took a while to get it all back toworking, again.This is what I want to do to make it easy when this
happens again, this is windoze so it will happen, likely sooner ratherthan later too.I want to be able to back her drive up to a CD, the whole thing even ifit takes a few CDs.When it dies again, I want to be able to put in the
first CD and it boot and reinstall everything from there with littleinteraction from me.Is there such a creature?Please tell me it is free.I'm used to Linuxremember.I can't believe I let her spend almost $200.00 on that crappie OS.
hangs head in shame She a great person in all other respects though.I just have to keep working on this area.ThanksDale:-)Oh, I'm still looking for help with samba share so I can copy her
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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

2006-05-02 Thread Thierry de Coulon
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 23.18, Teresa and Dale wrote:
 Hi,

 OK, here's my deal.  My girlfriend wants to use windoze, yes it has
 already died from a bug and it took a while to get it all back to
 working, again.  This is what I want to do to make it easy when this
 happens again, this is windoze so it will happen, likely sooner rather
 than later too.

 I want to be able to back her drive up to a CD, the whole thing even if
 it takes a few CDs.  When it dies again, I want to be able to put in the
 first CD and it boot and reinstall everything from there with little
 interaction from me.

 Is there such a creature?  Please tell me it is free.  I'm used to Linux
 remember.

 I can't believe I let her spend almost $200.00 on that crappie OS.  
 hangs head in shame   She a great person in all other respects though.
 I just have to keep working on this area.

 Thanks

 Dale

I've done that on Laptops (you know, those thingies that come with crap 
pre-installed) in order to put that back if I sell them later...

I know if two ways that (might) work:

a) dd - you might have to shrink the partition first or try 7zip to make it 
smaller later. You'll also need a pertition to store the file. I would do it 
from some live distro (Mepis or Knoppix or so).
You can then put it back the other way round, but you may have to reinstall 
Windows first to gat a working mbr.

b) Paragon Partition Manager. It is _not_ free unfortunately but it's good 
value for money. Get the CD iso image (the fools distribute it as an *.exe 
file!), burn it and boot. Amongst other things it will let you resize the 
partition (if required) and backup/archive it, if you want directly on CD or 
DVD. Note the software runs on a linux boot cd.

As I said, it's not free ($50) - but you can get a free demo here: 
http://www.partition-manager.com/
and test it. Might save your ass some day.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

2006-05-02 Thread Teresa and Dale
Daniel da Veiga wrote:

 On 5/2/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 OK, here's my deal.  My girlfriend wants to use windoze, yes it has
 already died from a bug and it took a while to get it all back to
 working, again.  This is what I want to do to make it easy when this
 happens again, this is windoze so it will happen, likely sooner rather
 than later too.

 I want to be able to back her drive up to a CD, the whole thing even if
 it takes a few CDs.  When it dies again, I want to be able to put in the
 first CD and it boot and reinstall everything from there with little
 interaction from me.

 Is there such a creature?  Please tell me it is free.  I'm used to Linux
 remember.

 I can't believe I let her spend almost $200.00 on that crappie OS.  
 hangs head in shame   She a great person in all other respects though.
 I just have to keep working on this area.

 Thanks

 Dale
 :-)


 There is g4l (Ghost For Linux), it is still under work I believe, but
 it is a great tool, if you never used Ghost (from Symantec) then
 you're not familiar with Windows (lol).  It can backup your
 disk/partitions and create image files that can be restored later. It
 has good compression and I have an image for each Windows Machine here
 at work. A whole install with Office and everything goes about 3 CDs.

 http://freshmeat.net/projects/g4l/

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I have heard of Ghost before.  I saw it on The Screen Savers show a few
times.  You are right, I hate windoze.  I can install it and set up some
stuff but I like to run after that.  I would rather go to a dentist than
mess with windoze.  I make a exception for my brother and my Sweetie. 

May have to check on that.

Thanks

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

2006-05-02 Thread Teresa and Dale
Thierry de Coulon wrote:


I've done that on Laptops (you know, those thingies that come with crap 
pre-installed) in order to put that back if I sell them later...
  


I got you there.  ;-)

I know if two ways that (might) work:

a) dd - you might have to shrink the partition first or try 7zip to make it 
smaller later. You'll also need a pertition to store the file. I would do it 
from some live distro (Mepis or Knoppix or so).
You can then put it back the other way round, but you may have to reinstall 
Windows first to gat a working mbr.

b) Paragon Partition Manager. It is _not_ free unfortunately but it's good 
value for money. Get the CD iso image (the fools distribute it as an *.exe 
file!), burn it and boot. Amongst other things it will let you resize the 
partition (if required) and backup/archive it, if you want directly on CD or 
DVD. Note the software runs on a linux boot cd.

As I said, it's not free ($50) - but you can get a free demo here: 
http://www.partition-manager.com/
and test it. Might save your ass some day.


  


That dd thing always scared me for some reason.  Plan b sounds neat.  I
need to add that to the to check list.

Thanks

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

2006-05-02 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 21:18, Teresa and Dale wrote:

 I want to be able to back her drive up to a CD, the whole thing even if
 it takes a few CDs.  When it dies again, I want to be able to put in the
 first CD and it boot and reinstall everything from there with little
 interaction from me.

 Is there such a creature?  Please tell me it is free.  I'm used to Linux
 remember.

First defragment her OS partition a couple of times (and reboot in between for 
good measure ;-).  Then you can use a Knoppix or other Linux LiveCD on her 
machine, run partimage and save an image of her OS partition on one of your 
boxen over the LAN.  If you don't want to take up too much of your valuable 
disk space you can of course compress the image.  If you rather save it on 
CD's/DVD's partimage can split the image down to smaller file sizes.

You can of course also save it on a new partition on her box.

http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page

Another tool which you can use from within Windoze is Bart's PE and DriveImage 
XML (a plugin you can build into Bart's PE LiveCD).

http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

http://www.runtime.org/dixml.htm

They're both free and should do the job you want.  Personally,  I use Knoppix 
and partimage, but there are other linux tools (down to the relatively basic 
dd command) which should do the trick on a VFAT partition.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

2006-05-02 Thread Joe Menola
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 4:42 pm, David Miller wrote:
 Partimage works pretty well although not exactly as you described.  It
 requires a linux server to serve the images I believe.  There may be a way
 to use a livecd of some sort to do it locally as you described.

http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page

You can mount a local partition (other then the one you're backing up), save 
image to disk (you can specify file size limit) and burn later.

-jm

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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

2006-05-02 Thread Teresa and Dale
Mick wrote:


First defragment her OS partition a couple of times (and reboot in between for 
good measure ;-).  Then you can use a Knoppix or other Linux LiveCD on her 
machine, run partimage and save an image of her OS partition on one of your 
boxen over the LAN.  If you don't want to take up too much of your valuable 
disk space you can of course compress the image.  If you rather save it on 
CD's/DVD's partimage can split the image down to smaller file sizes.

You can of course also save it on a new partition on her box.

http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page

Another tool which you can use from within Windoze is Bart's PE and DriveImage 
XML (a plugin you can build into Bart's PE LiveCD).

http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

http://www.runtime.org/dixml.htm

They're both free and should do the job you want.  Personally,  I use Knoppix 
and partimage, but there are other linux tools (down to the relatively basic 
dd command) which should do the trick on a VFAT partition.
  



Crap, I forgot and used NTFS on the thing.   sighs   I wonder if the
newer kernel will write safely yet

Dale
:-)
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