Re: [gentoo-user] Why do systemd scripts get installed with USE="-systemd"?
On 12/11/2017 13:47, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 10:55:04 +, Akater wrote: > >> It looks like systemd scripts often (always?) get installed, regardless >> of USE flag settings. > > Because they are tiny so impact of them is negligible. On the other hand, > if you don't have them and want to switch to systemd, you would end up > having to recompile half of world just to get the service files. > >> Why would they? Is this a policy? > > AFAIK, yes. > > If you really want to do this, you can do it with INSTALL_MASK in > make.conf. but you have to ask yourself, why bother even with that? Yes, I know there are some Lennart haters around who refuse under any circumstances to ever have anything on a computer that might in any way be tainted by Lennart, no matter how tangentially. But that's just daft. No-one complains about /usr/share/doc and the large number of docs there, many of which are larger than all the systemd unit files combined. Or what multilib setups end up doing in /lib It makes engineering sense to install all the various init system's unit and scripts for all packages, then the sysadmin gets to pick which one is in use. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Why do systemd scripts get installed with USE="-systemd"?
On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 10:55:04AM +, Akater wrote
> It looks like systemd scripts often (always?) get installed, regardless
> of USE flag settings.
>
> Why would they? Is this a policy?
>
> E.g., in
>
> cat /usr/portage/net-p2p/transmission/transmission-2.92-r2.ebuild | grep
> systemd_
> systemd_dounit daemon/transmission-daemon.service
> systemd_install_serviced
> "${FILESDIR}"/transmission-daemon.service.conf
>
> why not
>
> if use systemd ; then
>systemd_dounit daemon/transmission-daemon.service
>systemd_install_serviced "${FILESDIR}"/transmission-daemon.service.conf
> fi
>
> instead?
Add...
INSTALL_MASK="/lib/systemd/system /usr/lib/systemd/system"
...to /etc/portage/make.conf
H, I wonder if you could...
rm -rf /lib/systemd /usr/lib/systemd/
...and then create symlinks to /dev/null
--
Walter Dnes
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications
Re: [gentoo-user] Why do systemd scripts get installed with USE="-systemd"?
On 2017-11-12 12:47, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 10:55:04 +, Akater wrote: It looks like systemd scripts often (always?) get installed, regardless of USE flag settings. Because they are tiny so impact of them is negligible. On the other hand, if you don't have them and want to switch to systemd, you would end up having to recompile half of world just to get the service files. As long the ebuild doesn't have a USE flag "systemd" - may be. If the (local) USE flag is for service files only, it could may be considered as overhead. But if there is a USE flag "system" - doesn't have the package to be rebuild somehow or other? Why would they? Is this a policy? AFAIK, yes. -- Sent with eQmail-1.10
Re: [gentoo-user] Why do systemd scripts get installed with USE="-systemd"?
On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 10:55:04 +, Akater wrote: > It looks like systemd scripts often (always?) get installed, regardless > of USE flag settings. Because they are tiny so impact of them is negligible. On the other hand, if you don't have them and want to switch to systemd, you would end up having to recompile half of world just to get the service files. > Why would they? Is this a policy? AFAIK, yes. If you really want to do this, you can do it with INSTALL_MASK in make.conf. -- Neil Bothwick If you shoot a mime, should you use a silencer? pgpXz1Whb5p3s.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Why do systemd scripts get installed with USE="-systemd"?
It looks like systemd scripts often (always?) get installed, regardless
of USE flag settings.
Why would they? Is this a policy?
E.g., in
cat /usr/portage/net-p2p/transmission/transmission-2.92-r2.ebuild | grep
systemd_
systemd_dounit daemon/transmission-daemon.service
systemd_install_serviced "${FILESDIR}"/transmission-daemon.service.conf
why not
if use systemd ; then
systemd_dounit daemon/transmission-daemon.service
systemd_install_serviced "${FILESDIR}"/transmission-daemon.service.conf
fi
instead?
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