Re: [gentoo-user] amd64 Installer LiveCD?

2006-03-19 Thread Bo Andresen
On Monday 20 March 2006 02:19, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On Sunday 19 March 2006 18:49, Bo Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> > Yes. The versioned 2006.0 Universal Installation CD aka the Installer
> > LiveCD is the one with a GUI. Admittedly they haven't made that very
> > clear but you will see it if you continue to chapter 3...
>
> No.  They are not the same.  However, there are 3 different gentoo LiveCDs,
> each appropriate for a different type of install.
>
> On the tracker we have (and I'm seeding), among other things:
> livecd-amd64-installer-2006.0  (LiveCD with Gentoo Installer)
> install-amd64-universal-2006.0 (Universal LiveCD [no installer])
> packages-amd64-2006.0  (Packages CD)
> and
> install-amd64-minimal-2006.0   (Minimal LiveCD [no installer])
>
> The livecd-installer is new for this release.  The install-universal and
> install-minimal are the traditional live CDs, with and without stages and
> snapshots (and maybe some packages?).  The package CD is really only
> useful if you are installing the GRP (so, you can't tweak USE flags) but
> will get you a system with Gnome or KDE and a number of useful
> applications as fast as a "standard" binary distribution.

Yes you are right. Thanks for clearing that out. I misread the first section 
of Chapter 3. The in livecd-amd64-installer-2006.0 is located in 
releases/amd64/2006.0/livecd on the mirrors in opposition to my statement in 
my earlier replies.

Actually I just downloaded the x86 version yesterday because I wanted to see 
it. It is neat that you can actually do some real work on the computer while 
installing with the old methods using the new installer cd. :) Seems to me 
that the have picked the greatest possible approach to this.

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Re: [gentoo-user] amd64 Installer LiveCD?

2006-03-19 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Sunday 19 March 2006 18:49, Bo Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote 
about 'Re: [gentoo-user] amd64 Installer LiveCD?':
> On Monday 20 March 2006 01:32, JimD wrote:
> > Bo Andresen wrote:
> > > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2006.0/handbook-amd64.xml?part
> > >=1&ch ap=2#doc_chap3
> >
> > Is that the same as the *live* CD?  The x86 live CD for 2006.0 had a
> > GUI that I could use why the installer did its thing.  I thought the
> > regular universal installer was console only?
>
> Yes. The versioned 2006.0 Universal Installation CD aka the Installer
> LiveCD is the one with a GUI. Admittedly they haven't made that very
> clear but you will see it if you continue to chapter 3...

No.  They are not the same.  However, there are 3 different gentoo LiveCDs, 
each appropriate for a different type of install.

On the tracker we have (and I'm seeding), among other things:
livecd-amd64-installer-2006.0  (LiveCD with Gentoo Installer)
install-amd64-universal-2006.0 (Universal LiveCD [no installer])
packages-amd64-2006.0  (Packages CD)
and
install-amd64-minimal-2006.0   (Minimal LiveCD [no installer])

The livecd-installer is new for this release.  The install-universal and 
install-minimal are the traditional live CDs, with and without stages and 
snapshots (and maybe some packages?).  The package CD is really only 
useful if you are installing the GRP (so, you can't tweak USE flags) but 
will get you a system with Gnome or KDE and a number of useful 
applications as fast as a "standard" binary distribution.

-- 
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it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest
clue what's best for them in terms of package stability."
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Re: [gentoo-user] amd64 Installer LiveCD?

2006-03-19 Thread Bo Andresen
On Monday 20 March 2006 01:32, JimD wrote:
> Bo Andresen wrote:
> > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2006.0/handbook-amd64.xml?part=1&ch
> >ap=2#doc_chap3
>
> Is that the same as the *live* CD?  The x86 live CD for 2006.0 had a GUI
> that I could use why the installer did its thing.  I thought the regular
> universal installer was console only?

Yes. The versioned 2006.0 Universal Installation CD aka the Installer LiveCD 
is the one with a GUI. Admittedly they haven't made that very clear but you 
will see it if you continue to chapter 3...

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Re: [gentoo-user] amd64 Installer LiveCD?

2006-03-19 Thread JimD

Bo Andresen wrote:


http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2006.0/handbook-amd64.xml?part=1&chap=2#doc_chap3




Is that the same as the *live* CD?  The x86 live CD for 2006.0 had a GUI 
that I could use why the installer did its thing.  I thought the regular 
universal installer was console only?


I wanted to use the GUI live cd to install with because tomorrow I will be 
building gentoo on a new amd64 that I am getting and it will be my only 
computer for the day.  I need to be able to use a graphical browser while I 
am building gentoo in case I need to connect in to my works over the 
SSL-VPN.


Jim 



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Re: [gentoo-user] amd64 Installer LiveCD?

2006-03-19 Thread JimD

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

On Sunday 19 March 2006 15:27, "JimD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote about '[gentoo-user] amd64 Installer LiveCD?':

Is there a liveCD for amd64?


I don't know where it is on the mirrors, but the bittorrent tracker
has livecd-amd64-installer-2006.0; I'm seeding right now.



Sweet, that is what I was looking for.

Do you know why it is not on the "Get Gentoo" line here:
http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/where.xml

Jim

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Re: [gentoo-user] amd64 Installer LiveCD?

2006-03-19 Thread Bo Andresen
On Sunday 19 March 2006 22:27, JimD wrote:
> Is there a liveCD for amd64?
>
> The amd64 handbook part 1, chapter3 under the "Do I need Networking?"
> section states:
>
> "The stage3 file built by the amd64 Installer LiveCD is optimized for
> generic amd64 usage and uses NPTL."
>
> However looking on the download page I only see the LiveCD for x86.
>
> I really liked the LiveCD for x86 because I was able to browse the
> web/email while the installer did its thing : )  I am getting an amd64
> system tomorrow and will be putting Gentoo on it and it would nice to have
> a GUI desktop during the install.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2006.0/handbook-amd64.xml?part=1&chap=2#doc_chap3

"You can download the Universal Installation CD (and, if you want to, the 
Packages CD as well) from one of our mirrors. The Installation CD is located 
in the releases/amd64/2006.0/installcd directory; the Package CD is located 
in the releases/amd64/2006.0/packagecd directory."

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Re: [gentoo-user] amd64 Installer LiveCD?

2006-03-19 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Sunday 19 March 2006 15:27, "JimD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote 
about '[gentoo-user] amd64 Installer LiveCD?':
> Is there a liveCD for amd64?

I don't know where it is on the mirrors, but the bittorrent tracker has 
livecd-amd64-installer-2006.0; I'm seeding right now.

-- 
"If there's one thing we've established over the years,
it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest
clue what's best for them in terms of package stability."
-- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh
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[gentoo-user] amd64 Installer LiveCD?

2006-03-19 Thread JimD

Is there a liveCD for amd64?

The amd64 handbook part 1, chapter3 under the "Do I need Networking?" 
section states:


"The stage3 file built by the amd64 Installer LiveCD is optimized for 
generic amd64 usage and uses NPTL."


However looking on the download page I only see the LiveCD for x86.

I really liked the LiveCD for x86 because I was able to browse the web/email 
while the installer did its thing : )  I am getting an amd64 system tomorrow 
and will be putting Gentoo on it and it would nice to have a GUI desktop 
during the install.


Jim 



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