Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-8.27.10: total lock on logout
Justin R Findlay wrote: > Ideally a fully documented card is what I want. That is why I've been > following the open graphics project. Your best bet right now is to buy something with Intel integrated graphics. Intel's hired X developers to work on a fully open-source driver, and it also contracts Tungsten Graphics for the 3D driver. If you want to support open-source graphics, buy Intel, then send ATI/Nvidia letters to tell them why they lost your business. Regretfully there's not much that can be done for those of us who prefer AMD processors.. Thanks, Donnie signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-8.27.10: total lock on logout
On 8/4/06, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This hasn't been true for at least a year, since they started a real Linux team up. I will grant that their releases over the last several months seem to be getting better. Indeed they are at least releasing on a montly basis, while nVidia seems to have trouble producing releases on a 4-month cycle! But it will take at least another year of that (plus solid power management and composite support!) before I consider buying an ATI card or laptop again. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-8.27.10: total lock on logout
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 11:10:57AM -0700, Richard Fish wrote: > On 8/4/06, fire-eyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Does anyone know what the heck is going on here? I mean this is TOTALLY > >unacceptable. I know it is not gentoos fault, it's ATI putting out crap > >drivers... But this is SO FRUSTRATING not having reliable 3D :( > > Yeah, one of my main requirements for my new laptop was an Intel or > Nvidia GPU, because I got sick and tired of ATIs shit. NVidia is > better, but still not perfect. We can only hope that AMDs purchase of > ATI will result in some better cooperation with the opensource > community...eventually. Ideally a fully documented card is what I want. That is why I've been following the open graphics project. http://wiki.duskglow.com/tiki-index.php?page=Open-Graphics Justin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-8.27.10: total lock on logout
Richard Fish wrote: > I have never used it, so I can't say how well the reverse-engineered > driver works. Pretty well on anything but the newest games, on which it tends to work OK. > ATI has demonstrated very little interest in providing decent linux > support. This hasn't been true for at least a year, since they started a real Linux team up. Thanks, Donnie signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-8.27.10: total lock on logout
On 8/4/06, fire-eyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does anyone know what the heck is going on here? I mean this is TOTALLY unacceptable. I know it is not gentoos fault, it's ATI putting out crap drivers... But this is SO FRUSTRATING not having reliable 3D :( Yeah, one of my main requirements for my new laptop was an Intel or Nvidia GPU, because I got sick and tired of ATIs shit. NVidia is better, but still not perfect. We can only hope that AMDs purchase of ATI will result in some better cooperation with the opensource community...eventually. For now, the only other option you have for 3D support is to try out the reverse-engineered r300 driver. If you have a recent enough kernel, you can turn on "Device Drivers->Character Devices->Direct Rendering Manager" and "ATI Radeon". Then using the radeon driver and standard DRI setup, you might get hardware 3D acceleration. I have never used it, so I can't say how well the reverse-engineered driver works. I do know it is still very much a work in progress though, the more recent the kernel, the better. You might also have a look at the table in /usr/src/linux/drivers/char/drm/drm_pciids.h and compare to your vendor and device id (from lspci -n output), to see if your chip is supported by the in-kernel driver before going through the trouble. What can I do? I have struggled in the past very hard with getting DRI to work in xorgs radeon driver, but it takes cvs versions of this and overlays of Most of that should now be resolved with recent kernels and x.org versions that and blah blah blah... A real pain I should be able to get 3D going here, preferrably without ATI's drivers, i mean this card has been out for a while What do I do? So frustrating.. The problem is that ATI doesn't release programming specs either. So it is not simply a matter of time before something works...that only applies if the company will at least work with the interested devs. ATI has demonstrated very little interest in providing decent linux support. If you have a choice, don't buy them. Again, we can only hope that the purchase by AMD goes through and changes the culture, but don't hold your breath. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
