Re: [gentoo-user] chicken/eff issue with suspend-to-disk/hibernate problem [Was: The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!]
On 29/03/2012, at 22:04, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:51:44 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: > >>> try tuxonice - allows you to suspend to a file on disk as well as ram >>> or swap. Added bonus is its much more robust than in-kernel, and the >>> dev (Nigel) is very responsive if help or bugfixes (usually for new >>> kernel versions) are needed. > > I'd question this seeing as it hasn't been released for kernel 3.1 or > later. Not that it is a bad choice, it is not, but it is certainly not > keeping up. > >> True, but I don't want to have too many write-actions to the internal >> SSD, which means that I'd want the file on the SD as well... > > TuxOnIce lets you specify where you want the hibernate file. > > > -- > Neil Bothwick > > X-Modem- A device on the losing end of an encounter with lightning. and dont forget, its not a swapfile so you only write once on hibernate, and read once on restart. and you can delete/recreate the file in between if you wish - its only used for hibernate. billK
Re: [gentoo-user] chicken/eff issue with suspend-to-disk/hibernate problem [Was: The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!]
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:51:44 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > try tuxonice - allows you to suspend to a file on disk as well as ram > > or swap. Added bonus is its much more robust than in-kernel, and the > > dev (Nigel) is very responsive if help or bugfixes (usually for new > > kernel versions) are needed. I'd question this seeing as it hasn't been released for kernel 3.1 or later. Not that it is a bad choice, it is not, but it is certainly not keeping up. > True, but I don't want to have too many write-actions to the internal > SSD, which means that I'd want the file on the SD as well... TuxOnIce lets you specify where you want the hibernate file. -- Neil Bothwick X-Modem- A device on the losing end of an encounter with lightning. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] chicken/eff issue with suspend-to-disk/hibernate problem [Was: The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!]
On Thu, March 29, 2012 12:40 pm, wdk@moriah wrote: > > > On 29/03/2012, at 17:35, "J. Roeleveld" wrote: > >> >> On Mon, March 19, 2012 3:56 pm, Alex Schuster wrote: >>> William Kenworthy writes: >>> On Sun, 2012-03-18 at 18:30 -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>> > My laptop has used dracut since months ago, and suspends/resumes just > fine, as it does my media center. >>> Genkernel doesnt, bugs and work arounds on gentoo bugzilla, with angry comments from a dev that it wont be supported and to not file bugs for it - now that dev has moved on I dont know if enough has changed to test the waters and file a bug again. Its missing a hook in the initrd to call the binary that starts the resume process. >>> >>> Huh? I don't use this at the moment, because suspend-to-ram is enough >>> for >>> me, but it (that is, the initramfs part) used to work just fine out of >>> the >>> box for me, also opening my LUKS-encrypted root volume being on LVM. It >>> also seemed to work on another Gentoo PC I installed recently, although >>> TuxOnIce itself does not work so the resume fails. Argh, this suspend >>> to >>> disk stuff NEVER really worked for me, and I tried for years on >>> different >>> systems. >> >> I had it working a long time ago, but the last time I tried it I ended >> up >> with a bit of a problem: >> >> I don't want a swap-partition on the SSD in my netbook. So I want it to >> use the SD-card that's permanently plugged in. Problem is, it's >> connected >> via an internal USB-port and USB is killed before the writing-proces for >> the suspend-to-disk starts. >> >> Anyone know a solution short of rewriting the kernel? ;) >> >> -- >> Joost >> >> > try tuxonice - allows you to suspend to a file on disk as well as ram or > swap. Added bonus is its much more robust than in-kernel, and the dev > (Nigel) is very responsive if help or bugfixes (usually for new kernel > versions) are needed. True, but I don't want to have too many write-actions to the internal SSD, which means that I'd want the file on the SD as well... -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] chicken/eff issue with suspend-to-disk/hibernate problem [Was: The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!]
On 29/03/2012, at 17:35, "J. Roeleveld" wrote: > > On Mon, March 19, 2012 3:56 pm, Alex Schuster wrote: >> William Kenworthy writes: >> >>> On Sun, 2012-03-18 at 18:30 -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> My laptop has used dracut since months ago, and suspends/resumes just fine, as it does my media center. >> >>> Genkernel doesnt, bugs and work arounds on gentoo bugzilla, with angry >>> comments from a dev that it wont be supported and to not file bugs for >>> it - now that dev has moved on I dont know if enough has changed to test >>> the waters and file a bug again. >>> >>> Its missing a hook in the initrd to call the binary that starts the >>> resume process. >> >> Huh? I don't use this at the moment, because suspend-to-ram is enough for >> me, but it (that is, the initramfs part) used to work just fine out of the >> box for me, also opening my LUKS-encrypted root volume being on LVM. It >> also seemed to work on another Gentoo PC I installed recently, although >> TuxOnIce itself does not work so the resume fails. Argh, this suspend to >> disk stuff NEVER really worked for me, and I tried for years on different >> systems. > > I had it working a long time ago, but the last time I tried it I ended up > with a bit of a problem: > > I don't want a swap-partition on the SSD in my netbook. So I want it to > use the SD-card that's permanently plugged in. Problem is, it's connected > via an internal USB-port and USB is killed before the writing-proces for > the suspend-to-disk starts. > > Anyone know a solution short of rewriting the kernel? ;) > > -- > Joost > > try tuxonice - allows you to suspend to a file on disk as well as ram or swap. Added bonus is its much more robust than in-kernel, and the dev (Nigel) is very responsive if help or bugfixes (usually for new kernel versions) are needed. BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] chicken/eff issue with suspend-to-disk/hibernate problem [Was: The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!]
On Mon, March 19, 2012 3:56 pm, Alex Schuster wrote: > William Kenworthy writes: > >> On Sun, 2012-03-18 at 18:30 -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> > My laptop has used dracut since months ago, and suspends/resumes just >> > fine, as it does my media center. > >> Genkernel doesnt, bugs and work arounds on gentoo bugzilla, with angry >> comments from a dev that it wont be supported and to not file bugs for >> it - now that dev has moved on I dont know if enough has changed to test >> the waters and file a bug again. >> >> Its missing a hook in the initrd to call the binary that starts the >> resume process. > > Huh? I don't use this at the moment, because suspend-to-ram is enough for > me, but it (that is, the initramfs part) used to work just fine out of the > box for me, also opening my LUKS-encrypted root volume being on LVM. It > also seemed to work on another Gentoo PC I installed recently, although > TuxOnIce itself does not work so the resume fails. Argh, this suspend to > disk stuff NEVER really worked for me, and I tried for years on different > systems. I had it working a long time ago, but the last time I tried it I ended up with a bit of a problem: I don't want a swap-partition on the SSD in my netbook. So I want it to use the SD-card that's permanently plugged in. Problem is, it's connected via an internal USB-port and USB is killed before the writing-proces for the suspend-to-disk starts. Anyone know a solution short of rewriting the kernel? ;) -- Joost
