Re: [gentoo-user] eix - What's eix, then?

2006-01-09 Thread Mike Williams
On Monday 09 January 2006 04:37, Stroller wrote:
  aaahhh, the wait for eupdatedb, yes it does take a while (certainly  
  not
  90 minutes, more like 5 minutes for me) but then I run it from cron at
  lunch, so I don't notice... much :)

 I think you meant to say:
    aaahhh, the wait for eupdatedb, yes it does take a while  
 (certainly not
    90 minutes for me, more like 5 minutes)

 I have no intention of timing it here and now, but I have one system  
 here on which eupdatedb is certainly into the several tens of minutes.

You know, you could all just use:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_speed_up_portage_with_cdb

Then get ultra fast metadata updates (no 50-51% hang*), quick searches (not as 
quick as eix or esearch but *way* quicker than portage standard), and no need 
to update a second database (so no out of date searches).


carpaskis thoughts are perfectly valid, but if you know you're using cdb then 
get a seg fault, you can turn it off.


* Under 52 seconds, with no previous portage interactions in hours, while 
reading email in kmail, on a 7200rpm 2.5 drive in a PM 1.8.

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Re: [gentoo-user] eix - What's eix, then?

2006-01-09 Thread Abhay Kedia
On Monday 09 January 2006 17:48, Mike Williams wrote:

 You know, you could all just use:
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_speed_up_portage_with_cdb

...and if we face any problems we will be flamed by purist Gentooers? Reading 
that wiki entry made me remember the people who use --oh-so-fast CFLAGS and 
then get flamed in forums. I personally would never use such hacks in 
something as important as portage.

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] eix - What's eix, then?

2006-01-09 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/9/06, Mike Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You know, you could all just use:
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_speed_up_portage_with_cdb

 Then get ultra fast metadata updates (no 50-51% hang*), quick searches (not as
 quick as eix or esearch but *way* quicker than portage standard), and no need
 to update a second database (so no out of date searches).

Except that this will break with portage 2.1:

ewarn This series contains a completely rewritten caching framework.
ewarn If you are using any cache modules (such as the CDB cache
ewarn module) portage will not work until they have been disabled.
ewarn For reference, they are configured at /etc/portage/modules.
echo
einfo The default cache format has changed beginning with this
einfo version. Before using emerge, run \`emerge --metadata\` to
einfo restore portage's local cache.

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Re: [gentoo-user] eix - What's eix, then?

2006-01-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 07:45:21 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:

 Except that this will break with portage 2.1:
 
 ewarn This series contains a completely rewritten caching
 framework. ewarn If you are using any cache modules (such as the CDB
 cache ewarn module) portage will not work until they have been
 disabled. ewarn For reference, they are configured
 at /etc/portage/modules. echo
 einfo The default cache format has changed beginning with this
 einfo version. Before using emerge, run \`emerge --metadata\`
 to einfo restore portage's local cache.

if you are using eix with portage 2.1, you may need to set /etc/eixrc to 
PORTDIR_CACHE_METHOD=backport to avoid strange search results. 


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Re: [gentoo-user] eix - What's eix, then?

2006-01-09 Thread Preston Hagar
Another link for you reference is:http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Speed_up_searches_in_portageIt describes both eix and esearch with the basic info (updating the database, output, etc.)
PrestonOn 1/9/06, Mike Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You know, you could all just use:http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_speed_up_portage_with_cdb--Mike Williams--
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Re: [gentoo-user] eix - What's eix, then?

2006-01-08 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 20:54 +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 20:33:51 +, Stroller wrote:
 
  I'm using esearch at the moment - should I change?
 
 I did. eix is basically esearch without the wait.

what wait?  I use esearch and I don't have to wait...?

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Re: [gentoo-user] eix - What's eix, then?

2006-01-08 Thread Stroller


On 9 Jan 2006, at 00:30, Iain Buchanan wrote:


On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 20:54 +, Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 20:33:51 +, Stroller wrote:


I'm using esearch at the moment - should I change?


I did. eix is basically esearch without the wait.


what wait?  I use esearch and I don't have to wait...?


eix-update completes in just a few seconds, whereas on one of my  
systems `eupdatedb` (of esearch) takes perhaps 90 minutes.


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Re: [gentoo-user] eix - What's eix, then?

2006-01-08 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 01:22 +, Stroller wrote:
 On 9 Jan 2006, at 00:30, Iain Buchanan wrote:
 
  On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 20:54 +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
  On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 20:33:51 +, Stroller wrote:
 
  I'm using esearch at the moment - should I change?
 
  I did. eix is basically esearch without the wait.
 
  what wait?  I use esearch and I don't have to wait...?
 
 eix-update completes in just a few seconds, whereas on one of my  
 systems `eupdatedb` (of esearch) takes perhaps 90 minutes.

aaahhh, the wait for eupdatedb, yes it does take a while (certainly not
90 minutes, more like 5 minutes for me) but then I run it from cron at
lunch, so I don't notice... much :)

can eix do the following (taken from esearch --help)

  --searchdesc, -S
Search package descriptions as well

  --fullname, -F
Search packages full name (includes category)

  --instonly, -I
Find only packages which are installed

  --compact, -c
More compact output format

(there are more from esearch, but these are the main ones I use)
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Re: [gentoo-user] eix - What's eix, then?

2006-01-08 Thread John Myers
On Sunday 08 January 2006 17:49, Iain Buchanan wrote:
 can eix do the following (taken from esearch --help)
snip

Yep!
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Re: [gentoo-user] eix - What's eix, then?

2006-01-08 Thread Benjamin Fritzsche
While were on the subject:

is there something like esync for eix? 
(show me the differences after a emerge sync/eix-update?)

I've grown used to this and its currently making me stick with esearch.


On Monday 09 January 2006 03:03, John Myers wrote:
 On Sunday 08 January 2006 17:49, Iain Buchanan wrote:
  can eix do the following (taken from esearch --help)

 snip

 Yep!
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Re: [gentoo-user] eix - What's eix, then?

2006-01-08 Thread John Myers
On Sunday 08 January 2006 18:50, Benjamin Fritzsche wrote:
 While were on the subject:

 is there something like esync for eix?
 (show me the differences after a emerge sync/eix-update?)
eix-sync
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Re: [gentoo-user] eix - What's eix, then?

2006-01-08 Thread Stroller


On 9 Jan 2006, at 01:49, Iain Buchanan wrote:


aaahhh, the wait for eupdatedb, yes it does take a while (certainly  
not

90 minutes, more like 5 minutes for me) but then I run it from cron at
lunch, so I don't notice... much :)


I think you meant to say:
  aaahhh, the wait for eupdatedb, yes it does take a while  
(certainly not

  90 minutes for me, more like 5 minutes)

I have no intention of timing it here and now, but I have one system  
here on which eupdatedb is certainly into the several tens of minutes.


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Re: [gentoo-user] eix - What's eix, then?

2006-01-06 Thread Stroller


On 6 Jan 2006, at 17:18, Petr Kocmid wrote:


# eix ktorrent
* net-p2p/ktorrent
 Available versions:  1.0 1.1_rc1 1.1 (all green==available for  
install)

 Installed:   none
 Homepage:http://ktorrent.pwsp.net/
 Description: A BitTorrent program for KDE.


and:

On 6 Jan 2006, at 17:31, Lares Moreau wrote:

eix has it's own Database, and doesn't run of live data.

eix-sync -- emerge --sync's then updates the eix DB. DO that or emerge
--sync  update-eix



What's eix, then? Apart from a small utility for searching ebuilds  
with indexing for fast results.


I'm using esearch at the moment - should I change?

The results of `eix ktorrent` above seem more comprehensive than  
those that'd be give by esearch, is that the only advantage? `esync`  
takes bleedin' ages on one system here, so if eix was faster I'd use  
it in a flash.


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Re: [gentoo-user] eix - What's eix, then?

2006-01-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 20:33:51 +, Stroller wrote:

 What's eix, then? Apart from a small utility for searching ebuilds  
 with indexing for fast results.

Just that.

 I'm using esearch at the moment - should I change?

I did. eix is basically esearch without the wait.


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Re: [gentoo-user] eix - What's eix, then?

2006-01-06 Thread Christian Heim
On Friday 06 January 2006 21:33, St wrote:
 What's eix, then? Apart from a small utility for searching ebuilds
 with indexing for fast results.

 I'm using esearch at the moment - should I change?

 The results of `eix ktorrent` above seem more comprehensive than
 those that'd be give by esearch, is that the only advantage? `esync`
 takes bleedin' ages on one system here, so if eix was faster I'd use
 it in a flash.

The only thing that is slow, is update-eix due to reading the cache (well slow 
by my definition means 20s).

eix -s / -S (or what ever you want to search for) is _really_ fast ..


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Re: [gentoo-user] eix - What's eix, then?

2006-01-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 22:01:00 +0100, Christian Heim wrote:

 The only thing that is slow, is update-eix due to reading the cache
 (well slow by my definition means 20s).

You obviously haven't tried esearch...


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Re: [gentoo-user] eix - What's eix, then?

2006-01-06 Thread Stroller


On 6 Jan 2006, at 21:54, Neil Bothwick wrote:


On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 22:01:00 +0100, Christian Heim wrote:


The only thing that is slow, is update-eix due to reading the cache
(well slow by my definition means 20s).


You obviously haven't tried esearch...


Yes, I installed eix after the several propt responses - many thanks,  
all! - and was much impressed by the speed improvement.


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Re: [gentoo-user] eix - What's eix, then?

2006-01-06 Thread Beau E. Cox
On Friday 06 January 2006 04:51 pm, Stroller wrote:
 On 6 Jan 2006, at 21:54, Neil Bothwick wrote:
  On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 22:01:00 +0100, Christian Heim wrote:
  The only thing that is slow, is update-eix due to reading the cache
  (well slow by my definition means 20s).
 
  You obviously haven't tried esearch...

 Yes, I installed eix after the several propt responses - many thanks,
 all! - and was much impressed by the speed improvement.

 Stroller.

Me too! I was just lurking around and saw the eix discussion
on this list, installed it, and WOW! Thanks everyone.
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