Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avt xfce4-meta; haven't got startxfce4. Help, please!
On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 02:39:14PM -0500, dhk wrote: Do you have xfce-base/xfdesktop installed? Try installing it. No, as it happens, I didn't. When I tried # emerge xfdesktop , the compiler threw a segfault. It does this reproducibly. Bother! I don't have any fancy C\(XX\)?FLAGS set, and am using a standard athlon-64 setup. Presumably, rebuilding the compiler isn't going to help much, since the athlon-64 stage-3 would have had the latest and greatest compiler anyhow. I think, at this stage, I'll just try emerging a different window manager. Maybe blackbox. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avt xfce4-meta; haven't got startxfce4. Help, please!
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:22 AM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote: On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 02:39:14PM -0500, dhk wrote: Do you have xfce-base/xfdesktop installed? Try installing it. No, as it happens, I didn't. When I tried # emerge xfdesktop , the compiler threw a segfault. It does this reproducibly. Bother! I don't have any fancy C\(XX\)?FLAGS set, and am using a standard athlon-64 setup. Presumably, rebuilding the compiler isn't going to help much, since the athlon-64 stage-3 would have had the latest and greatest compiler anyhow. I think, at this stage, I'll just try emerging a different window manager. Maybe blackbox. Is it just me? On a new install I always still to an emerge -e @world once I get to a working text based boot and I've done any modification to make.conf as I don't really know how the compiler or tool set was built. Just paranoid. I used to do it twice before I started installing apps or desktops but I've cut back. :-) If you care to compare: m...@firefly ~ $ cat /etc/make.conf # Please consult /usr/share/portage/config/make.conf.example for a more # detailed example. CFLAGS=-O2 -march=native -pipe #Safe CFlags for the Core-i7, saved for reference #CFLAGS=-march=core2 -msse4 -mcx16 -msahf -O2 -pipe CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} # WARNING: Changing your CHOST is not something that should be done lightly. # Please consult http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/change-chost.xml before changing. CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu # These are the USE flags that were used in addition to what is provided by the # profile used for building. #USE=hal USE=aac alsa cairo caps cdda cddb cdparanoia cdr dts dvd dvdr ffmpeg flac fltk ftp gnome hal ieee1394 jack kde lame java jpeg ladspa lame lash libsamplerate mmx mp3 mp4 mpeg musepack nsplugin ogg sse sse2 ssse3 sse4 tifftruetype vorbis xine xv xvid vmware -bluetooth -esound -timidity MAKEOPTS=-j5 GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://gentoo.osuosl.org/ SYNC=rsync://rsync.namerica.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--with-bdeps y #INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse INPUT_DEVICES=evdev virtualbox VIDEO_CARDS=intel fbdev virtualbox vmware #VIDEO_CARDS=intel vesa fbdev ALSA_CARDS=hdsp usb LINGUAS=en ACCEPT_LICENSE=dlj-1.1 PUEL source /usr/local/portage/layman/make.conf m...@firefly ~
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avt xfce4-meta; haven't got startxfce4. Help, please!
On Wednesday 10 February 2010 17:33:46 Mark Knecht wrote: On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:22 AM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote: On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 02:39:14PM -0500, dhk wrote: Do you have xfce-base/xfdesktop installed? Try installing it. No, as it happens, I didn't. When I tried # emerge xfdesktop , the compiler threw a segfault. It does this reproducibly. Bother! I don't have any fancy C\(XX\)?FLAGS set, and am using a standard athlon-64 setup. Presumably, rebuilding the compiler isn't going to help much, since the athlon-64 stage-3 would have had the latest and greatest compiler anyhow. I think, at this stage, I'll just try emerging a different window manager. Maybe blackbox. Is it just me? On a new install I always still to an emerge -e @world once I get to a working text based boot and I've done any modification to make.conf as I don't really know how the compiler or tool set was built. Just paranoid. That's worthwhile, it goes real quick once gcc and glibc are built. Plus (until recently at least) the published stages always had an out of date gcc on them. I used to do it twice before I started installing apps or desktops but I've cut back. :-) Twice is pointless :-) gcc rebuilds itself twice to ensure that the binary is built with the same version as the result, and verifies that the last two are bit-wise identical. Then building the toolchain, then building the rest of world gives you exactly what you hope to get from doing it twice. If you care to compare: m...@firefly ~ $ cat /etc/make.conf # Please consult /usr/share/portage/config/make.conf.example for a more # detailed example. CFLAGS=-O2 -march=native -pipe #Safe CFlags for the Core-i7, saved for reference #CFLAGS=-march=core2 -msse4 -mcx16 -msahf -O2 -pipe CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} # WARNING: Changing your CHOST is not something that should be done lightly. # Please consult http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/change-chost.xml before changing. CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu # These are the USE flags that were used in addition to what is provided by the # profile used for building. #USE=hal USE=aac alsa cairo caps cdda cddb cdparanoia cdr dts dvd dvdr ffmpeg flac fltk ftp gnome hal ieee1394 jack kde lame java jpeg ladspa lame lash libsamplerate mmx mp3 mp4 mpeg musepack nsplugin ogg sse sse2 ssse3 sse4 tifftruetype vorbis xine xv xvid vmware -bluetooth -esound -timidity MAKEOPTS=-j5 GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://gentoo.osuosl.org/ SYNC=rsync://rsync.namerica.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--with-bdeps y #INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse INPUT_DEVICES=evdev virtualbox VIDEO_CARDS=intel fbdev virtualbox vmware #VIDEO_CARDS=intel vesa fbdev ALSA_CARDS=hdsp usb LINGUAS=en ACCEPT_LICENSE=dlj-1.1 PUEL source /usr/local/portage/layman/make.conf m...@firefly ~ -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avt xfce4-meta; haven't got startxfce4. Help, please!
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 10 February 2010 17:33:46 Mark Knecht wrote: SNIP Is it just me? On a new install I always still to an emerge -e @world once I get to a working text based boot and I've done any modification to make.conf as I don't really know how the compiler or tool set was built. Just paranoid. That's worthwhile, it goes real quick once gcc and glibc are built. Plus (until recently at least) the published stages always had an out of date gcc on them. I used to do it twice before I started installing apps or desktops but I've cut back. :-) Twice is pointless :-) gcc rebuilds itself twice to ensure that the binary is built with the same version as the result, and verifies that the last two are bit-wise identical. Then building the toolchain, then building the rest of world gives you exactly what you hope to get from doing it twice. And it was you or Neil or someone else here who pointed that out maybe 1-2 years ago so I stopped doing it twice. But, heck, why not? I do a lot of pointless things every day. I only do new installs a few times a year... ;-) Anyway, right after the system first comes up it's usually less than 1 hour to do a complete rebuild of that most basic system and I've had very few _strange_ problems bringing up Gentoo since I started doing it. (In 2000, so 10 years now...) - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avt xfce4-meta; haven't got startxfce4. Help, please!
On Wednesday 10 February 2010 18:37:00 Mark Knecht wrote: gcc rebuilds itself twice to ensure that the binary is built with the same version as the result, and verifies that the last two are bit-wise identical. Then building the toolchain, then building the rest of world gives you exactly what you hope to get from doing it twice. And it was you or Neil or someone else here who pointed that out maybe 1-2 years ago so I stopped doing it twice. But, heck, why not? I do a lot of pointless things every day. I only do new installs a few times a year... ;-) Now that you put it that way :-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] emerge -avt xfce4-meta; haven't got startxfce4. Help, please!
Hi, Gentoo, The Subject: just about says it all; following the instructions in The Xfce Configuration Guide, I did # emerge -avt xfce4-meta followed by $ echo exec startxfce4 ~/.xinitrc followed by $ startx. The X-server complained about not finding startxfce4. A quick find command, find / -name startxfce4 (and I do mean quick - it took only half a second :-) demonstrated a complete absence of a file with that name. Help, please! What do I need to do to get xfce running? -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avt xfce4-meta; haven't got startxfce4. Help, please!
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote: Hi, Gentoo, The Subject: just about says it all; following the instructions in The Xfce Configuration Guide, I did # emerge -avt xfce4-meta followed by $ echo exec startxfce4 ~/.xinitrc followed by $ startx. The X-server complained about not finding startxfce4. A quick find command, find / -name startxfce4 (and I do mean quick - it took only half a second :-) demonstrated a complete absence of a file with that name. Help, please! What do I need to do to get xfce running? -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany). Hummthat worked for me: firefly ~ # which startxfce4 /usr/bin/startxfce4 firefly ~ # equery belongs /usr/bin/startxfce4 [ Searching for file(s) /usr/bin/startxfce4 in *... ] xfce-base/xfce-utils-4.6.1 (/usr/bin/startxfce4) firefly ~ # m...@firefly ~ $ cat .xinitrc exec startxfce4 m...@firefly ~ $ Do and emerge -pvDuN @world/revdep-rebuild -ip and make sure you are really clean. It should work but the info above should allow oyu to get it running. I didn't need to do anything special here. Hope this helps, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avt xfce4-meta; haven't got startxfce4. Help, please!
firefly ~ # emerge -ep xfce4-meta | grep xfce | grep utils [ebuild R ] xfce-base/xfce-utils-4.6.1 firefly ~ # On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP firefly ~ # which startxfce4 /usr/bin/startxfce4 firefly ~ # equery belongs /usr/bin/startxfce4 [ Searching for file(s) /usr/bin/startxfce4 in *... ] xfce-base/xfce-utils-4.6.1 (/usr/bin/startxfce4) firefly ~ # m...@firefly ~ $ cat .xinitrc exec startxfce4 m...@firefly ~ $ SNIP Possibly you installed something other than xfce4-meta? firefly ~ # emerge -ep xfce4-meta | grep xfce | grep utils [ebuild R ] xfce-base/xfce-utils-4.6.1 firefly ~ #
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avt xfce4-meta; haven't got startxfce4. Help, please!
Mark Knecht wrote: On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote: Hi, Gentoo, The Subject: just about says it all; following the instructions in The Xfce Configuration Guide, I did # emerge -avt xfce4-meta followed by $ echo exec startxfce4 ~/.xinitrc followed by $ startx. The X-server complained about not finding startxfce4. A quick find command, find / -name startxfce4 (and I do mean quick - it took only half a second :-) demonstrated a complete absence of a file with that name. Help, please! What do I need to do to get xfce running? -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany). Hummthat worked for me: firefly ~ # which startxfce4 /usr/bin/startxfce4 firefly ~ # equery belongs /usr/bin/startxfce4 [ Searching for file(s) /usr/bin/startxfce4 in *... ] xfce-base/xfce-utils-4.6.1 (/usr/bin/startxfce4) firefly ~ # m...@firefly ~ $ cat .xinitrc exec startxfce4 m...@firefly ~ $ Do and emerge -pvDuN @world/revdep-rebuild -ip and make sure you are really clean. It should work but the info above should allow oyu to get it running. I didn't need to do anything special here. Hope this helps, Mark Do you have xfce-base/xfdesktop installed? Try installing it.