Re: [gentoo-user] emerge 32bits on 64bits platform

2010-08-18 Thread Stéphane Guedon
Le Tuesday 17 August 2010 21:24:59, Bill Longman a écrit :
 On 08/17/2010 06:43 AM, Mike Edenfield wrote:
  On 8/16/2010 2:13 PM, Stéphane Guedon wrote:
  I have read several things about this, but never really solved !
  
  Can I emerge a 32bits software on 64bits platform with a multilib
  profile ?
  
  All my web browsers (konqueror, opera, chromium, firefox) are 64bits,
  whereas flash player exist currently in 32bits. So, I need to have
  32bits browser ! Can I emerge ?
 
 Well, you can certainly make a 32 bit chroot directory and compile
 things in there. That works on x86_64 quite nicely. (Never tried it on
 the sparcs 'coz I got rid of the SPARCstations long ago.)
 
 I don't know how you'd peel out the results of your compile and place
 them into your 64 bit host without mucking up things. I guess you
 could use binpkg or some such but you'd still have the problem of
 unwrapping the 32 bit pkg in your 64 bit host. Yuck.

I have simply used the 10.0.42 plugin which have a native 64 bit version...

Thanks !
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge 32bits on 64bits platform

2010-08-17 Thread Jesús J . Guerrero Botella
2010/8/16 Stéphane Guedon steph...@22decembre.eu:
 I have read several things about this, but never really solved !

 Can I emerge a 32bits software on 64bits platform with a multilib profile ?

 All my web browsers (konqueror, opera, chromium, firefox) are 64bits, whereas
 flash player exist currently in 32bits. So, I need to have 32bits browser ! 
 Can
 I emerge ?

There's a multilib overlay that will allow you to build 32 bits
software on a 64 bits OS. But it's completely unsupported, don't
expect it to work flawlessly. It's been long since the last time I
tried it so I don't know what the current status of things is.


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge 32bits on 64bits platform

2010-08-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 17 August 2010 09:24:42 Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote:
 2010/8/16 Stéphane Guedon steph...@22decembre.eu:
  I have read several things about this, but never really solved !
  
  Can I emerge a 32bits software on 64bits platform with a multilib profile
  ?
  
  All my web browsers (konqueror, opera, chromium, firefox) are 64bits,
  whereas flash player exist currently in 32bits. So, I need to have
  32bits browser ! Can I emerge ?
 
 There's a multilib overlay that will allow you to build 32 bits
 software on a 64 bits OS. But it's completely unsupported, don't
 expect it to work flawlessly. It's been long since the last time I
 tried it so I don't know what the current status of things is.


Or he could just ignore the warnings about 32/64 bit issues n the ebuild and 
use nspluginwrapper.

That's what I use on latest Firefox, Konqueror, Chrome, Rekons and Arora. It 
works everywhere but flash does use excessive CPU, but that is a 
characteristic of flash, not of the wrapper


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge 32bits on 64bits platform

2010-08-17 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 8/16/2010 2:13 PM, Stéphane Guedon wrote:
 I have read several things about this, but never really solved !
 
 Can I emerge a 32bits software on 64bits platform with a multilib profile ?
 
 All my web browsers (konqueror, opera, chromium, firefox) are 64bits, whereas 
 flash player exist currently in 32bits. So, I need to have 32bits browser ! 
 Can 
 I emerge ?

* There are a few binary packages in Portage that are 32-bit binaries.
In your case, specifically, there is firefox-bin and chromium-bin.
Those should emerge and run fine on a multilib system, after emerging
the correct 32-bit compatibility packages.  Note that Flash will run *a
lot* slower than you're probably used to in this setup.

* For other web browsers, you could build your own 32-bit software on
the 64-bit system.  That's trickier, but there is a cross-dev system
available in portage you can use to ease the pain a bit.  Personally I'd
just go with one of the binary browser packages.

* You could try using the nspluginwrapper package, which was built just
for this purpose (loading 32-bit plugins into a 64-bit browser).  Flash
only worked sporadically for me under nspluginwrapper, but apparently
others have a lot of success with it.

* Or, you can do what I did, and mask off adobe-flash-10.0.53*, so you
will still have the 64-bit Flash Player available until Adobe gets their
act together and releases a newer version.  It limits you to those Flash
applications where you already know and trust the publisher, since
there's a list as long as my arm of security fixes in 10.0.53.64, but
that's good enough for me for now.



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge 32bits on 64bits platform

2010-08-17 Thread Bill Longman
On 08/17/2010 06:43 AM, Mike Edenfield wrote:
 On 8/16/2010 2:13 PM, Stéphane Guedon wrote:
 I have read several things about this, but never really solved !

 Can I emerge a 32bits software on 64bits platform with a multilib profile ?

 All my web browsers (konqueror, opera, chromium, firefox) are 64bits, 
 whereas 
 flash player exist currently in 32bits. So, I need to have 32bits browser ! 
 Can 
 I emerge ?

Well, you can certainly make a 32 bit chroot directory and compile
things in there. That works on x86_64 quite nicely. (Never tried it on
the sparcs 'coz I got rid of the SPARCstations long ago.)

I don't know how you'd peel out the results of your compile and place
them into your 64 bit host without mucking up things. I guess you
could use binpkg or some such but you'd still have the problem of
unwrapping the 32 bit pkg in your 64 bit host. Yuck.



[gentoo-user] emerge 32bits on 64bits platform

2010-08-16 Thread Stéphane Guedon
I have read several things about this, but never really solved !

Can I emerge a 32bits software on 64bits platform with a multilib profile ?

All my web browsers (konqueror, opera, chromium, firefox) are 64bits, whereas 
flash player exist currently in 32bits. So, I need to have 32bits browser ! Can 
I emerge ?

Thanks !
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge 32bits on 64bits platform

2010-08-16 Thread Johannes Kimmel

On 08/16/2010 08:13 PM, Stéphane Guedon wrote:

I have read several things about this, but never really solved !

Can I emerge a 32bits software on 64bits platform with a multilib profile ?

All my web browsers (konqueror, opera, chromium, firefox) are 64bits, whereas
flash player exist currently in 32bits. So, I need to have 32bits browser ! Can
I emerge ?

Thanks !


Not exactly. You can use www-plugins/nspluginwrapper to use 32bit 
plugins in a 64bit browser.
But yes, you can emerge www-client/firefox-bin. This is a precompiled 
32bit firefox, that runs the flashplugin without nspluginwrapper.


That should at least answer one question :)

Greetings

Johannes Kimmel



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge 32bits on 64bits platform

2010-08-16 Thread Stéphane Guedon
Le Monday 16 August 2010 21:39:13, Johannes Kimmel a écrit :
 On 08/16/2010 08:13 PM, Stéphane Guedon wrote:
  I have read several things about this, but never really solved !
  
  Can I emerge a 32bits software on 64bits platform with a multilib profile
  ?
  
  All my web browsers (konqueror, opera, chromium, firefox) are 64bits,
  whereas flash player exist currently in 32bits. So, I need to have
  32bits browser ! Can I emerge ?
  
  Thanks !
 
 Not exactly. You can use www-plugins/nspluginwrapper to use 32bit
 plugins in a 64bit browser.
 But yes, you can emerge www-client/firefox-bin. This is a precompiled
 32bit firefox, that runs the flashplugin without nspluginwrapper.
 
 That should at least answer one question :)
 
 Greetings
 
 Johannes Kimmel

nspluginwrapper currently doesn't allow flash player to work, don't know why...

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge 32bits on 64bits platform

2010-08-16 Thread Bill Longman
On 08/16/2010 12:47 PM, Stéphane Guedon wrote:
 
 nspluginwrapper currently doesn't allow flash player to work, don't know 
 why...

You could look at swfdec-gnome too.