Re: [gentoo-user] external storage
I've ordered SanDisk 1TB Extreme Portable SSD. Would format it with ext4 but if I do it, it will not work with cell phone. So for now I think I'll stick with exFat (default it comes with). It might be OK for picture backup but my exFat will stripped extended attributes from my Linux files. Thelma On 10/03/2018 11:58 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 8:24:52 AM CEST John Covici wrote: >> On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 01:13:34 -0400, >> >> J. Roeleveld wrote: >>> On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 6:30:12 AM CEST Davyd McColl wrote: Most newer external storage devices come formatted with ntfs these days, so if you just want to plug-and-play, I suggest installing ntfs-3g. File managers like dolphin and desktop environments like KDE will notice the device and allow you to mount and use them. Be aware, though, that ntfs-3g, whilst being an excellent bit of software (imo), is not the fastest way to access those disks. If you have no need to move the disk to another computer or if you only plan on moving between Linux computers, I suggest formatting with a native filesystem like ext4. Personally, I use ntfs-3g for my 4 large external disks so that I can access them when I infrequently dual-boot to windows of on the off-chance that I would like to lend the drive to someone. I accept the performance penalty. -d On October 3, 2018 05:45:58 the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > Are all external storage, media/disk work with Linux? > Any recommendations, or which one to stay away from. > > Some of them are encrypted, so I suppose they will not work with Linux > out of the box. > > -- > Thelma >>> >>> I would assume other desktop environments will also seamlessly work with >>> ntfs-3g as that is handled by udisks. >>> >>> Personally, I have not noticed lesser performance with ntfs-3g with both >>> reading and writing. >>> >>> I also have not had any issues with encrypted disks. >> >> I have had problems that once a disk is mounted with ntfs3g, and then >> trying to use it on a Windows system, I had to do a chkdsk /f before >> it would work properly. This was a while ago, so maybe things are >> fixed by now, but I thought it was worth bringing it to your >> attention. > > I only encounter this when people decide to unplug the disk without ejecting > it. The eject forces a clearance of the write-cache. > This is why I always get annoyed with people who simply pull out the disk/ > stick right after the copy is "finished". > > -- > Joost > > > > >
Re: [gentoo-user] external storage
On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 8:24:52 AM CEST John Covici wrote: > On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 01:13:34 -0400, > > J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 6:30:12 AM CEST Davyd McColl wrote: > > > Most newer external storage devices come formatted with ntfs these days, > > > so > > > if you just want to plug-and-play, I suggest installing ntfs-3g. File > > > managers like dolphin and desktop environments like KDE will notice the > > > device and allow you to mount and use them. > > > > > > Be aware, though, that ntfs-3g, whilst being an excellent bit of > > > software > > > (imo), is not the fastest way to access those disks. If you have no need > > > to > > > move the disk to another computer or if you only plan on moving between > > > Linux computers, I suggest formatting with a native filesystem like > > > ext4. > > > Personally, I use ntfs-3g for my 4 large external disks so that I can > > > access them when I infrequently dual-boot to windows of on the > > > off-chance > > > that I would like to lend the drive to someone. I accept the performance > > > penalty. > > > > > > -d > > > > > > On October 3, 2018 05:45:58 the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > > > > Are all external storage, media/disk work with Linux? > > > > Any recommendations, or which one to stay away from. > > > > > > > > Some of them are encrypted, so I suppose they will not work with Linux > > > > out of the box. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Thelma > > > > I would assume other desktop environments will also seamlessly work with > > ntfs-3g as that is handled by udisks. > > > > Personally, I have not noticed lesser performance with ntfs-3g with both > > reading and writing. > > > > I also have not had any issues with encrypted disks. > > I have had problems that once a disk is mounted with ntfs3g, and then > trying to use it on a Windows system, I had to do a chkdsk /f before > it would work properly. This was a while ago, so maybe things are > fixed by now, but I thought it was worth bringing it to your > attention. I only encounter this when people decide to unplug the disk without ejecting it. The eject forces a clearance of the write-cache. This is why I always get annoyed with people who simply pull out the disk/ stick right after the copy is "finished". -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] external storage
On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 07:24:52 BST John Covici wrote: > On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 01:13:34 -0400, > > J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 6:30:12 AM CEST Davyd McColl wrote: > > > Most newer external storage devices come formatted with ntfs these days, > > > so > > > if you just want to plug-and-play, I suggest installing ntfs-3g. File > > > managers like dolphin and desktop environments like KDE will notice the > > > device and allow you to mount and use them. > > > > > > Be aware, though, that ntfs-3g, whilst being an excellent bit of > > > software > > > (imo), is not the fastest way to access those disks. If you have no need > > > to > > > move the disk to another computer or if you only plan on moving between > > > Linux computers, I suggest formatting with a native filesystem like > > > ext4. > > > Personally, I use ntfs-3g for my 4 large external disks so that I can > > > access them when I infrequently dual-boot to windows of on the > > > off-chance > > > that I would like to lend the drive to someone. I accept the performance > > > penalty. > > > > > > -d > > > > > > On October 3, 2018 05:45:58 the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > > > > Are all external storage, media/disk work with Linux? > > > > Any recommendations, or which one to stay away from. > > > > > > > > Some of them are encrypted, so I suppose they will not work with Linux > > > > out of the box. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Thelma > > > > I would assume other desktop environments will also seamlessly work with > > ntfs-3g as that is handled by udisks. > > > > Personally, I have not noticed lesser performance with ntfs-3g with both > > reading and writing. > > > > I also have not had any issues with encrypted disks. > > I have had problems that once a disk is mounted with ntfs3g, and then > trying to use it on a Windows system, I had to do a chkdsk /f before > it would work properly. This was a while ago, so maybe things are > fixed by now, but I thought it was worth bringing it to your > attention. Did this problem manifest each time, or once only? Could it have something to do with unplugging the disk while still mounted. I used to have an ntfs formatted partition which was mounted at each boot by the linux OS (with an entry in fstab), but did not come across chkdsk when I occassionally dual-booted into MSWindows. For USB flash storage I'd use exFAT rather than NTFS or any other journalled fs. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] external storage
On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 01:13:34 -0400, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 6:30:12 AM CEST Davyd McColl wrote: > > Most newer external storage devices come formatted with ntfs these days, so > > if you just want to plug-and-play, I suggest installing ntfs-3g. File > > managers like dolphin and desktop environments like KDE will notice the > > device and allow you to mount and use them. > > > > Be aware, though, that ntfs-3g, whilst being an excellent bit of software > > (imo), is not the fastest way to access those disks. If you have no need to > > move the disk to another computer or if you only plan on moving between > > Linux computers, I suggest formatting with a native filesystem like ext4. > > Personally, I use ntfs-3g for my 4 large external disks so that I can > > access them when I infrequently dual-boot to windows of on the off-chance > > that I would like to lend the drive to someone. I accept the performance > > penalty. > > > > -d > > > > On October 3, 2018 05:45:58 the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > > > Are all external storage, media/disk work with Linux? > > > Any recommendations, or which one to stay away from. > > > > > > Some of them are encrypted, so I suppose they will not work with Linux > > > out of the box. > > > > > > -- > > > Thelma > > I would assume other desktop environments will also seamlessly work with > ntfs-3g as that is handled by udisks. > > Personally, I have not noticed lesser performance with ntfs-3g with both > reading and writing. > > I also have not had any issues with encrypted disks. I have had problems that once a disk is mounted with ntfs3g, and then trying to use it on a Windows system, I had to do a chkdsk /f before it would work properly. This was a while ago, so maybe things are fixed by now, but I thought it was worth bringing it to your attention. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] external storage
On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 6:30:12 AM CEST Davyd McColl wrote: > Most newer external storage devices come formatted with ntfs these days, so > if you just want to plug-and-play, I suggest installing ntfs-3g. File > managers like dolphin and desktop environments like KDE will notice the > device and allow you to mount and use them. > > Be aware, though, that ntfs-3g, whilst being an excellent bit of software > (imo), is not the fastest way to access those disks. If you have no need to > move the disk to another computer or if you only plan on moving between > Linux computers, I suggest formatting with a native filesystem like ext4. > Personally, I use ntfs-3g for my 4 large external disks so that I can > access them when I infrequently dual-boot to windows of on the off-chance > that I would like to lend the drive to someone. I accept the performance > penalty. > > -d > > On October 3, 2018 05:45:58 the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > > Are all external storage, media/disk work with Linux? > > Any recommendations, or which one to stay away from. > > > > Some of them are encrypted, so I suppose they will not work with Linux > > out of the box. > > > > -- > > Thelma I would assume other desktop environments will also seamlessly work with ntfs-3g as that is handled by udisks. Personally, I have not noticed lesser performance with ntfs-3g with both reading and writing. I also have not had any issues with encrypted disks. -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] external storage
Most newer external storage devices come formatted with ntfs these days, so if you just want to plug-and-play, I suggest installing ntfs-3g. File managers like dolphin and desktop environments like KDE will notice the device and allow you to mount and use them. Be aware, though, that ntfs-3g, whilst being an excellent bit of software (imo), is not the fastest way to access those disks. If you have no need to move the disk to another computer or if you only plan on moving between Linux computers, I suggest formatting with a native filesystem like ext4. Personally, I use ntfs-3g for my 4 large external disks so that I can access them when I infrequently dual-boot to windows of on the off-chance that I would like to lend the drive to someone. I accept the performance penalty. -d On October 3, 2018 05:45:58 the...@sys-concept.com wrote: Are all external storage, media/disk work with Linux? Any recommendations, or which one to stay away from. Some of them are encrypted, so I suppose they will not work with Linux out of the box. -- Thelma
[gentoo-user] external storage
Are all external storage, media/disk work with Linux? Any recommendations, or which one to stay away from. Some of them are encrypted, so I suppose they will not work with Linux out of the box. -- Thelma
