Re: [gentoo-user] gcc 4.7.3 -- 4.8.3

2014-11-08 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 07.11.2014 um 19:19 schrieb Mark Pariente:

 Going to 4.9 though is another thing. Apparently they broke the ABI for
 the standard C++ library, so once you start compiling C++ stuff with 4.9
 you better go all in (I did @system @world with 4.9 and had very few
 things that failed to compile[1], it's looking pretty good already).
 
 --Mark
 
 [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=526140

I give that a try ... as I set up a fresh new btrfs-subvolume to do a
fresh new build based on my @world only yesterday I will see if I can do
it with gcc 4.9 while I am at it.

Let's see if things work out and if it gets any better ;-)






Re: [gentoo-user] gcc 4.7.3 -- 4.8.3

2014-11-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 07.11.2014 um 19:19 schrieb Mark Pariente:


 Going to 4.9 though is another thing. Apparently they broke the ABI
 for the standard C++ library, so once you start compiling C++ stuff
 with 4.9 you better go all in (I did @system @world with 4.9 and had
 very few things that failed to compile[1], it's looking pretty good
 already).

oh great, again? Is it that time of the month?



[gentoo-user] gcc 4.7.3 -- 4.8.3

2014-11-07 Thread James
Ok 

so I'm still on 4.7.3; but if I set 4.8.3
as the default, should I rebuild @system ?

 # gcc-config -l
 [1] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.7.3 *
 [2] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.8.3


I saw the news item about 4.8.3-SSP, which I think is a good idea, but 
how deeply, if at all, do I need to rebuild packages ?
Is there any special steps I should take now in prepartion for 4.9.x?
caveats?

@system ?
@world  ?
a specific list  of packages only ?



James





Re: [gentoo-user] gcc 4.7.3 -- 4.8.3

2014-11-07 Thread Mark Pariente

so I'm still on 4.7.3; but if I set 4.8.3
as the default, should I rebuild @system ?

 # gcc-config -l
 [1] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.7.3 *
 [2] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.8.3


I saw the news item about 4.8.3-SSP, which I think is a good idea, but
how deeply, if at all, do I need to rebuild packages ?
Is there any special steps I should take now in prepartion for 4.9.x?
caveats?

@system ?
@world  ?
a specific list  of packages only ?


Based on my experience going from 4.7 to 4.8 was seamless, you can 
choose to not rebuild anything if you'd like. If you want to start 
taking advantage of -fstack-protector by default you can rebuild 
whatever you'd like, although if you're paranoid about security you 
should rebuild everything, ie. @system @world to make sure all your 
binaries and the libraries they dynamically load have the stack 
smashing guard built in.


Going to 4.9 though is another thing. Apparently they broke the ABI for 
the standard C++ library, so once you start compiling C++ stuff with 
4.9 you better go all in (I did @system @world with 4.9 and had very 
few things that failed to compile[1], it's looking pretty good already).


--Mark

[1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=526140






Re: [gentoo-user] gcc 4.7.3 -- 4.8.3

2014-11-07 Thread Todd Goodman
* James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com [141107 12:47]:
 Ok 
 
 so I'm still on 4.7.3; but if I set 4.8.3
 as the default, should I rebuild @system ?
 
  # gcc-config -l
  [1] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.7.3 *
  [2] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.8.3
 
 
 I saw the news item about 4.8.3-SSP, which I think is a good idea, but 
 how deeply, if at all, do I need to rebuild packages ?
 Is there any special steps I should take now in prepartion for 4.9.x?
 caveats?
 
 @system ?
 @world  ?
 a specific list  of packages only ?
 
 
 
 James

If I remember correctly (and I may not) the only thing I *had* to
rebuild was webkit-gtk with 4.8 as I was getting errors with apps built
with 4.8 and webkit-gtk built by 4.7.

But I tend to set up a @world rebuild to run when I'm not on my machines
if I have any issues anyway so I may not have run into other problems I
might have had otherwise.

Todd