HTML emails was: Re: [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers

2008-10-10 Thread Stroller


On 9 Oct 2008, at 22:42, Mike wrote:

Willie Wong wrote:

Besides: if one is already using the bandwidth to send mail in  
HTML, why not make it MIME-multipart with a plain text version  
included too?


I agree there should be a plain text version included AND the html  
should be standards compliant, in a perfect world.


Is there a standard for HTML emails to be compliant with?
I thought not.

Stroller.




[gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers

2008-10-09 Thread Pawel K
Hello

I would  like to get rid of all unnecessary x11-drivers/xf86-video-* packages.
I do NOT want to migrate to Modular X.

I set my video card in /etc/make.conf as follows:
VIDEO_CARDS=i810

What should I do now. Just emerge --unmerge on each unnecessary package ?
Is it sufficient for emerge to NOT to install drivers on an upgrade xorg in the 
future.

Thanks for answer.




  

Re: [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers

2008-10-09 Thread Erik Hahn
Please, disable HTML in your client or at least tell it to send a plain
text version as well. I see hardly readable raw HTML code in mutt.

-Erik

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Re: [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers

2008-10-09 Thread Sascha Hlusiak




Pawel K schrieb:

  

  
Hello

I would like to get rid of all unnecessary x11-drivers/xf86-video-*
packages.
I do NOT want to migrate to "Modular X".

I set my video card in /etc/make.conf as follows:
VIDEO_CARDS="i810"

What should I do now. Just "emerge --unmerge" on each unnecessary
package ?
Is it sufficient for emerge to NOT to install drivers on an upgrade
xorg in the future.

Thanks for answer.


  

  
  

You alreads USE "modular X", if you have separate xf86-video-* packages
installed.
If you set VIDEO_CARDS to what you want and emerge -auDN world, so
xorg-server pulls in the dependencies, you should be able to remove all
unneeded packages with "emerge -a --depclean". Be careful though,
that's not a toy. You might as well just "emerge --unmerge" the
packages you don't want anymore.

- Sascha






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Re: [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers

2008-10-09 Thread Norberto Bensa

Quoting Erik Hahn [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Please, disable HTML in your client or at least tell it to send a plain
text version as well. I see hardly readable raw HTML code in mutt.


Then change your MUA :)

I mean, there are more important reasons to not send HTML to public  
mailing lists than your MUA's inability to read them.


Regards,
Norberto



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Re: [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers

2008-10-09 Thread Erik Hahn
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 01:04:00PM -0200, Norberto Bensa wrote:
 Quoting Erik Hahn [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Please, disable HTML in your client or at least tell it to send a plain
 text version as well. I see hardly readable raw HTML code in mutt.

 Then change your MUA :)

Sure, but that's the one reason bugging me ;)
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Re: [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers

2008-10-09 Thread Mike

Erik Hahn wrote:


Please, disable HTML in your client or at least tell it to send a plain
text version as well. I see hardly readable raw HTML code in mutt.


You may want to add this line to muttrc:

auto_view text/html

Mike



Re: [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers

2008-10-09 Thread Willie Wong
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 11:43:42AM -0400, Penguin Lover Mike squawked:
 Erik Hahn wrote:

 Please, disable HTML in your client or at least tell it to send a plain
 text version as well. I see hardly readable raw HTML code in mutt.

 You may want to add this line to muttrc:

 auto_view text/html


That doesn't always help: I've been griping about this on my local TUG
list just recently. Some (web)mail clients, when sending HTML
mails, uses some sort of funky graphics/CSS formatting to denote
quotes, and sometimes they even strip the quote marks ('') that sane
mail clients insert and replace them with their funky graphics. 

I complained to my local TUG this time because some guy responded an
e-mail 6 or 7 level down in a thread and auto_view + dumping of html
by lynx makes the quotes completely disappear, and the discussion
becomes completely impossible to follow!

Besides: if one is already using the bandwidth to send mail in HTML, 
why not make it MIME-multipart with a plain text version included too?

(BTW, the above gripe is not directed at anyone on this list in
particular, rather is an anecdote to illustrate a point.)

W
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Re: [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers

2008-10-09 Thread Mike

Willie Wong wrote:

Besides: if one is already using the bandwidth to send mail in HTML, 
why not make it MIME-multipart with a plain text version included too?


I agree there should be a plain text version included AND the html 
should be standards compliant, in a perfect world.


Mike



Re: [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers

2008-10-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 09 October 2008 23:42:00 Mike wrote:
 Willie Wong wrote:
  Besides: if one is already using the bandwidth to send mail in HTML,
  why not make it MIME-multipart with a plain text version included too?

 I agree there should be a plain text version included AND the html
 should be standards compliant, in a perfect world.

I'm still looking for a solution to the idiots in the HR department that 
insist on sending all their touchy-feely-it's-a-wonderful-world motivational 
mails as a single giant jpeg...



-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers

2008-10-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:52:17 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 I'm still looking for a solution to the idiots in the HR department
 that insist on sending all their touchy-feely-it's-a-wonderful-world
 motivational mails as a single giant jpeg...

Napalm?


-- 
Neil Bothwick

A computer scientist is someone who, when told to Go to Hell,
sees the go to, rather than the destination, as harmful.


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Re: [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers

2008-10-09 Thread Robert Bridge
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:52:17 +0200
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 09 October 2008 23:42:00 Mike wrote:
  Willie Wong wrote:
   Besides: if one is already using the bandwidth to send mail in
   HTML, why not make it MIME-multipart with a plain text version
   included too?
 
  I agree there should be a plain text version included AND the html
  should be standards compliant, in a perfect world.
 
 I'm still looking for a solution to the idiots in the HR department
 that insist on sending all their touchy-feely-it's-a-wonderful-world
 motivational mails as a single giant jpeg...
 

/dev/null not do it?

-- 
Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html


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Re: [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers

2008-10-09 Thread Andrey Falko
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Pawel K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello

 I would  like to get rid of all unnecessary x11-drivers/xf86-video-*
 packages.
 I do NOT want to migrate to Modular X.

 I set my video card in /etc/make.conf as follows:
 VIDEO_CARDS=i810

 What should I do now. Just emerge --unmerge on each unnecessary package ?
 Is it sufficient for emerge to NOT to install drivers on an upgrade xorg in
 the future.

 Thanks for answer.




I would just do the following:

emerge --depclean world -a
revdep-rebuild -a

--depclean will remove packages that were brought in as dependencies,
but no longer are dependencies. revdep-rebuild will make sure that
nothing got removed by revdep-rebuild that should not have been
removed.



Re: [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers

2008-10-09 Thread Willie Wong
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:52:17AM +0200, Penguin Lover Alan McKinnon squawked:
 I'm still looking for a solution to the idiots in the HR department that 
 insist on sending all their touchy-feely-it's-a-wonderful-world motivational 
 mails as a single giant jpeg...
 
Actually, I prefer it that way. What I can't see can't annoy me. ;)

W
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There are of course many problems connected with life, of 
which some of the most popular are `Why are people born?' 
`Why do they die?' `Why do they spend so much of the 
intervening time wearing digital watches?' 

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