[gentoo-user] horrible gedit dependencies
Hi folks, I just wanted to install gedit on an system already runing Xorg, but I'm horrified about the dependencies. All useflags are disabled, but still 38 packages required. Is it possible to trim this down somehow ? cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] horrible gedit dependencies
No.. But you can try mousepad (from the xfce project). On 3/8/07, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, I just wanted to install gedit on an system already runing Xorg, but I'm horrified about the dependencies. All useflags are disabled, but still 38 packages required. Is it possible to trim this down somehow ? cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Julien Cabillot
Re: [gentoo-user] horrible gedit dependencies
On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 20:07 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote: Hi folks, I just wanted to install gedit on an system already runing Xorg, but I'm horrified about the dependencies. All useflags are disabled, but still 38 packages required. Is it possible to trim this down somehow ? Well, gedit is a GNOME app (included in GNOME's standard Desktop release) and, as such, depends on quite a few gnome libraries. Looking at the ebuild, I see nothing particularly outstanding about it's dependencies relative to other GNOME apps, apart from gtksourceview. Most GNOME setups will already have these installed. There's an optional python use flag that, if enabled, adds some python utilities and plugins. There's also a spell use flag for the optional spell checking capability. If you are not already running GNOME and don't want to pull in all the GNOME dependencies, might you want to use some other editor? -- Albert W. Hopkins -- Albert W. Hopkins -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] horrible gedit dependencies
* Cabillot Julien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No.. But you can try mousepad (from the xfce project). Thanks. I'll have a look at it. cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] horrible gedit dependencies
* Albert Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Looking at the ebuild, I see nothing particularly outstanding about it's dependencies relative to other GNOME apps, apart from gtksourceview. there's lots of documentation stuff pulled in, although I've switched off the docs useflag. ./configure tells me some optional things, ie. scrollkeeper. I wonder if gtksourceview and the printing stuff could be made optional (./configure doesnt tell anything about it). Most GNOME setups will already have these installed. I don't have any GNOME setup. I just want an easy-to-use editor, nothing else. cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] horrible gedit dependencies
On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 21:02 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Albert Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Looking at the ebuild, I see nothing particularly outstanding about it's dependencies relative to other GNOME apps, apart from gtksourceview. there's lots of documentation stuff pulled in, although I've switched off the docs useflag. Generally the doc use flag is for developer documentation. That's probably what it's referring to. ./configure tells me some optional things, ie. scrollkeeper. I wonder if gtksourceview and the printing stuff could be made optional (./configure doesnt tell anything about it). Without gtksourceview you have no gedit. It's the text widget used by gedit. Scrollkeeper is pretty much used by all GNOME apps for help docs, etc. Most GNOME setups will already have these installed. I don't have any GNOME setup. I just want an easy-to-use editor, nothing else. You probably don't want gedit then. gedit is the text editor for the GNOME desktop, so it's pretty much integrated with GNOME itself. -- Albert W. Hopkins -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] horrible gedit dependencies
On 3/8/07, Albert Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 21:02 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Albert Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Looking at the ebuild, I see nothing particularly outstanding about it's dependencies relative to other GNOME apps, apart from gtksourceview. there's lots of documentation stuff pulled in, although I've switched off the docs useflag. Generally the doc use flag is for developer documentation. That's probably what it's referring to. ./configure tells me some optional things, ie. scrollkeeper. I wonder if gtksourceview and the printing stuff could be made optional (./configure doesnt tell anything about it). Without gtksourceview you have no gedit. It's the text widget used by gedit. Scrollkeeper is pretty much used by all GNOME apps for help docs, etc. Most GNOME setups will already have these installed. I don't have any GNOME setup. I just want an easy-to-use editor, nothing else. You probably don't want gedit then. gedit is the text editor for the GNOME desktop, so it's pretty much integrated with GNOME itself. You could try gvim, if you're already familiar enough with vim (and gvim only has optional dependancies on gnome et al.) HTH- James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] horrible gedit dependencies
On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 12:34 -0800, James Ausmus wrote: You could try gvim, if you're already familiar enough with vim (and gvim only has optional dependancies on gnome et al.) ... and I'm a HUGE fan of [g]vim, but I question whether it would fit the OPs requirement of easy-to-use. -- Albert W. Hopkins -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] horrible gedit dependencies
070308 Albert Hopkins wrote: On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 20:07 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote: I just wanted to install gedit on an system already runing Xorg, but I'm horrified about the dependencies. All useflags are disabled, but still 38 packages required. Gedit is a GNOME app (included in GNOME's standard Desktop release) and, as such, depends on quite a few gnome libraries. Looking at the ebuild, I see nothing particularly outstanding about its deps relative to other GNOME apps, apart from gtksourceview. I have basic Gnome libs for Gvim Epiphany, but it wants 35 deps, incl media-libs/gstreamer-0.10.11 1,826 kB media-libs/libmpeg2-0.4.0b USE=X -sdl 463 kB media-libs/audiofile-0.2.6-r1 366 kB media-sound/esound-0.2.36-r2 USE=-alsa -debug -ipv6 -tcpd 362 kB media-video/totem-2.16.4 USE=-a52 -dbus -debug -dvd -ffmpeg -firefox \ -flac -gnome -hal -lirc -mad mpeg nsplugin -nvtv -ogg -theora -vorbis \ -xine xv 1,778 kB gnome-extra/nautilus-cd-burner-2.16.2 USE=cdr -debug -dvdr 699 kB gnome-extra/gnome-media-2.16.1 USE=-debug -ipv6 -mad -ogg -vorbis 2905 kB I don't have a sound card have removed all sound software from my box. Whyever would Gedit want sound pkgs or a CD burner ?? It's probably easier for AH to use Kwrite, if he doesn't like Vim: even if he has no KDE pkgs installed, it won't ask for 35 deps ... -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] horrible gedit dependencies
On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 16:23 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: I don't have a sound card have removed all sound software from my box. Whyever would Gedit want sound pkgs or a CD burner ?? It doesn't. If you look at the ebuild there are no dependencies for this. There may be indirect dependencies (remember gedit is part of the GNOME Desktop) and also remember use flags are very important (e.g. I have the complete GNOME desktop + other GNOME apps running in a vm, but none of them pull in esound). It's probably easier for AH to use Kwrite, if he doesn't like Vim: even if he has no KDE pkgs installed, it won't ask for 35 deps ... I think you got me confused with the OP. I'm actually very happy with Vim. :-) Also, AFAIK there is no ebuild for Kwrite. Kwrite is part of kdebase which will still likely pull in a bunch of stuff that the OP isn't interested in. I think what the OP is looking for is a simple GUI text editor with no DE dependencies. There is a crap load of editors out there (e.g. tea) but as I've no experience with them to recommend them (plus it's hard recommending packages as people's preferences vary greatly). But I hope I've given some clarity as to why gedit has such horrible dependencies. -- Albert W. Hopkins -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] horrible gedit dependencies
070308 Albert Hopkins wrote: On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 16:23 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: I don't have a sound card have removed all sound software from my box. Whyever would Gedit want sound pkgs or a CD burner ?? It doesn't. I don't mean to start an argument, but it does want them, as I said, even if they are not stated deps in the ebuild. My USE flags are: USE=-* apm bitmap-fonts bonobo bzip2 cdr crypt cups dri foomaticdb gcj gdbm gif gnutls gpm gtk gtk2 imagemagick imlib java javascript jpeg kde lcms libwww lm_sensors mime motif mpeg ncurses nptl nptlonly nsplugin nvidia opengl pcre pdf perl plotutils png pop python qt3 readline scanner session slang ssl tiff truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts unicode usb X xml xorg xv zlib ie I drop them all, then define those I deliberately want. If Gedit drags in all deps for the Gnome desktop, then my question is: whyever would the Gnome desktop want sound pkgs or a CD burner ?? and perhaps too: why does Gedit drag in all the Gnome desktop deps ?? If the answer is That's just the way Gnome does things, that tends to confirm the correctness of my avoidance of Gnome in favor of KDE (installed, but not used) Xfce (smile). AFAIK there is no ebuild for Kwrite. Kwrite is part of Kdebase which will still pull in a bunch that the OP isn't interested in. Kwrite is included under Kate, which is a separate Gentoo pkg, but what I should have refered to is Kedit: eix kedit * kde-base/kedit Available versions: (3.5) 3.5.5 ~3.5.6 Homepage:http://www.kde.org/ Description: KDE: very simple text editor The simplest editor I know is 'e3', which I sometimes use: it's not GUI, but it's very quick easy (I use the 'Nedit' mode). Gvim is my mainstay for most things, of course. HTH the OP. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] horrible gedit dependencies
On Friday 09 March 2007 00:30:56 Philip Webb wrote: I don't have a sound card have removed all sound software from my box. Whyever would Gedit want sound pkgs or a CD burner ?? It doesn't. I don't mean to start an argument, but it does want them, as I said, even if they are not stated deps in the ebuild. My USE flags are: USE=-* apm bitmap-fonts bonobo bzip2 cdr crypt cups dri foomaticdb gcj gdbm gif gnutls gpm gtk gtk2 imagemagick imlib java javascript jpeg kde lcms libwww lm_sensors mime motif mpeg ncurses nptl nptlonly nsplugin nvidia opengl pcre pdf perl plotutils png pop python qt3 readline scanner session slang ssl tiff truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts unicode usb X xml xorg xv zlib gedit depends on gnome-python-desktop with USE=python enabled. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160991 -- Bo Andresen pgpWxcjGPYTw2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] horrible gedit dependencies
Enrico Weigelt said the following: * Cabillot Julien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No.. But you can try mousepad (from the xfce project). Thanks. I'll have a look at it. cu If mousepad doesn't happen to strike your fancy, you could try scite. It's very simple and straight-forward for basic editing, but also offers some advanced features for programming if you want to use them. -nkm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
