Re: [gentoo-user] linux kernel disabling irq 16

2015-07-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 10 July 2015 23:48:40 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
 Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
  On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 6:41 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
  
  volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
   how about not using an ancient kernel?
   
   2015-07-10 11:54 GMT+02:00 cov...@ccs.covici.com:
   Hi folks.  I am using 3.16.3-gentoo kernel from gentoo-sources and I
   get
  
   the following sometime after a boot:
  I'd hardly call 3.16 ancient, but it isn't a supported stable kernel.
  If you want longterm I'd stick with 3.18 or 3.14.
 
 Thanks, [any way] to tell which ones are supported?

What's wrong with eix? It gives you a nice, easily understood list of all the 
current versions.

-- 
Rgds
Peter




Re: [gentoo-user] linux kernel disabling irq 16

2015-07-11 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 11:48 PM,  cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
 Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 6:41 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
 volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
  how about not using an ancient kernel?
 
  2015-07-10 11:54 GMT+02:00 cov...@ccs.covici.com:
 
  Hi folks.  I am using 3.16.3-gentoo kernel from gentoo-sources and I get
  the following sometime after a boot:

 I'd hardly call 3.16 ancient, but it isn't a supported stable kernel.
 If you want longterm I'd stick with 3.18 or 3.14.

 Thanks, anyway to tell which ones are supported?  The distributions are
 all over the place, ubunto is 3.13 and I think Debian Jessie is 3.16.

Well, the stable versions in portage are supported by the Gentoo
kernel team.  I personally have started using upstream kernels, and
the stable version of those can be found on kernel.org.  If you want
to run the really old series you're probably going to have to babysit
things a lot more - recent versions of software like udev doesn't
always support the old kernels (according to the Gentoo udev page it
seems like udev 216+ is likely to have problems with pre-3.7 kernels).

If you stick with an old non-longterm kernel you're not going to be
getting security backports and fixes for regressions.

But, as far as Gentoo support goes (such as it is), gentoo-sources is
really the intended experience.

-- 
Rich



Re: [gentoo-user] linux kernel disabling irq 16

2015-07-11 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 7:11 AM,  cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
 Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote:

 On Friday 10 July 2015 23:48:40 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
  Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
   I'd hardly call 3.16 ancient, but it isn't a supported stable kernel.
   If you want longterm I'd stick with 3.18 or 3.14.
 
  Thanks, [any way] to tell which ones are supported?

 What's wrong with eix? It gives you a nice, easily understood list of all the
 current versions.

 But it does not tell me which are supported.  I use unstable gentoo
 amd so I have kernels up to 4.1 something -- whenever I do an update it
 gives me another one.


It will show which ones are stable and which ones are not.  In some
sense anything in portage is supported, but if it isn't the highest
version in a particular series you should consider it deprecated (ie
the support is providing you the newer version to upgrade to).

The kernel is slotted far more than most packages in Gentoo, and that
reflects its importance, system call stability, and the degree to
which upstream provides longterm support.

-- 
Rich



Re: [gentoo-user] linux kernel disabling irq 16

2015-07-11 Thread covici
Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote:

 On Friday 10 July 2015 23:48:40 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
  Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
   On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 6:41 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
   
   volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
how about not using an ancient kernel?

2015-07-10 11:54 GMT+02:00 cov...@ccs.covici.com:
Hi folks.  I am using 3.16.3-gentoo kernel from gentoo-sources and I
get
   
the following sometime after a boot:
   I'd hardly call 3.16 ancient, but it isn't a supported stable kernel.
   If you want longterm I'd stick with 3.18 or 3.14.
  
  Thanks, [any way] to tell which ones are supported?
 
 What's wrong with eix? It gives you a nice, easily understood list of all the 
 current versions.

But it does not tell me which are supported.  I use unstable gentoo
amd so I have kernels up to 4.1 something -- whenever I do an update it
gives me another one.


-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] linux kernel disabling irq 16

2015-07-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 07:52:17 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:

  What's wrong with eix? It gives you a nice, easily understood list
  of all the current versions.  
 
  But it does not tell me which are supported.  I use unstable
  gentoo amd so I have kernels up to 4.1 something -- whenever I do an
  update it gives me another one.

It you want a stable kernel on an otherwise testing system, add this
to /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords

sys-kernel/gentoo-sources -~amd64
sys-kernel/linux-headers -~amd64


-- 
Neil Bothwick

CW music backward: get yer dog, wife, job, truck, kids, and sobriety
back.


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Re: [gentoo-user] linux kernel disabling irq 16

2015-07-11 Thread Daniel Frey
On 07/11/2015 01:22 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
 
 What's wrong with eix? It gives you a nice, easily understood list of all the 
 current versions.
 

If you don't use eix (like me) there's always eshowkw (available in the
gentoolkit package.)

It shows packages, slots, and keywording for all arch combinations:

~ $ eshowkw gentoo-sources
Keywords for sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:
 |   | u   |
 | a a   a n   p s   | n   |
 | l m   r h i m m i   p s   p   | u s | r
 | p d a m p a 6 i o p c 3   a x | s l | e
 | h 6 r 6 p 6 8 p s p 6 9 s r 8 | e o | p
 | a 4 m 4 a 4 k s 2 c 4 0 h c 6 | d t | o
-+---+-+---
  3.4.106| ~ ~ ~ o ~ ~ o o o ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ | o 3.4.106   | gentoo
-+---+-+---
  3.4.107| ~ ~ ~ o ~ ~ o o o ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ | o 3.4.107   | gentoo
-+---+-+---
 3.4.| o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o | o 3.4.  | gentoo
-+---+-+---
  3.10.77| + + + o + + o ~ o + + ~ ~ + + | o 3.10.77   | gentoo
--snip-- (There's a lot more output)

Dan



Re: [gentoo-user] linux kernel disabling irq 16

2015-07-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 11 July 2015 07:11:32 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
 Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote:
  On Friday 10 July 2015 23:48:40 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
   Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 6:41 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann

volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 how about not using an ancient kernel?
 
 2015-07-10 11:54 GMT+02:00 cov...@ccs.covici.com:
 Hi folks.  I am using 3.16.3-gentoo kernel from gentoo-sources and
 I
 get

 the following sometime after a boot:
I'd hardly call 3.16 ancient, but it isn't a supported stable kernel.
If you want longterm I'd stick with 3.18 or 3.14.
   
   Thanks, [any way] to tell which ones are supported?
  
  What's wrong with eix? It gives you a nice, easily understood list of all
  the current versions.
 
 But it does not tell me which are supported.  I use unstable gentoo
 amd so I have kernels up to 4.1 something -- whenever I do an update it
 gives me another one.

Any that aren't supported don't appear in the list. I don't know how your 
speakup arrangement works though, so you'd better ignore me.

-- 
Rgds
Peter




[gentoo-user] linux kernel disabling irq 16

2015-07-10 Thread covici
Hi folks.  I am using 3.16.3-gentoo kernel from gentoo-sources and I get
the following sometime after a boot:
Jul  9 20:24:26 ccs.covici.com kernel: Disabling IRQ #16
This is preceeded by a call trace and on my consoles I see the
additional  message  notody cares boot with irqpoll option.

I did some googling and this seems to happen even in  3.19 kernels.  So
far the system has been still working, (I am not using a display manager
right now), but  it seems an instability and the funny thing is that
irq 16 does have a handler -- here is the complete /proc/interrupts
   CPU0   CPU1   CPU2   CPU3   CPU4   CPU5   
CPU6   CPU7   
  0: 26  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   IO-APIC-edge  timer
  1:  51549  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   IO-APIC-edge  i8042
  9:  0  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   acpi
 12:  4  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   IO-APIC-edge  i8042
 16: 213194  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   ehci_hcd:usb2
 17:  0  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   pata_marvell
 18:  0  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   i801_smbus
 19: 602063  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   snd_emu10k1
 23:   1889  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   ehci_hcd:usb4
 48:6224537  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  ahci
 49: 10  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  ahci
 50:   31194512  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  xhci_hcd
 51:  0  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  xhci_hcd
 52:  0  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  xhci_hcd
 53:  0  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  xhci_hcd
 54:  0  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  xhci_hcd
 55:  0  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  xhci_hcd
 56:  0  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  xhci_hcd
 57:  0  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  xhci_hcd
 58:1770753  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  eth0
 59:  0  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  eth1
 60:1672015  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  eth2-rx-0
 61:2889266  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  eth2-tx-0
 62:  2  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  eth2
NMI:480259210211129132
138135   Non-maskable interrupts
LOC:  101443384  104183840  103613415  102110376   99219886  100506540   
98662481   96369343   Local timer interrupts
SPU:  0  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   Spurious interrupts
PMI:480259210211129132
138135   Performance monitoring interrupts
IWI:  1  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   IRQ work interrupts
RTR:  1  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   APIC ICR read retries
RES: 797796  82005  71556  71029   9728  19203  
17339  16821   Rescheduling interrupts
CAL:931   1389   1310   1398   1347980   
1238   1247   Function call interrupts
TLB:  11490   9816   8656  10847   5472   5196   
6390   6533   TLB shootdowns
TRM:  0  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   Thermal event interrupts
THR:  0  0  0  0  0  0  
0  0   Threshold APIC interrupts
MCE:  0  0  0  0  0  0 

Re: [gentoo-user] linux kernel disabling irq 16

2015-07-10 Thread covici
Would not do any good, the bug is still there under 3.19.  Right now I
am stuck with this one till I fix a bug in speakup.

Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:


 how about not using an ancient kernel?
 
 2015-07-10 11:54 GMT+02:00 cov...@ccs.covici.com:
 
  Hi folks.  I am using 3.16.3-gentoo kernel from gentoo-sources and I get
  the following sometime after a boot:
  Jul  9 20:24:26 ccs.covici.com kernel: Disabling IRQ #16
  This is preceeded by a call trace and on my consoles I see the
  additional  message  notody cares boot with irqpoll option.
 
  I did some googling and this seems to happen even in  3.19 kernels.  So
  far the system has been still working, (I am not using a display manager
  right now), but  it seems an instability and the funny thing is that
  irq 16 does have a handler -- here is the complete /proc/interrupts
 CPU0   CPU1   CPU2   CPU3   CPU4   CPU5
 CPU6   CPU7
0: 26  0  0  0  0  0
0  0   IO-APIC-edge  timer
1:  51549  0  0  0  0  0
0  0   IO-APIC-edge  i8042
9:  0  0  0  0  0  0
0  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   acpi
   12:  4  0  0  0  0  0
0  0   IO-APIC-edge  i8042
   16: 213194  0  0  0  0  0
0  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   ehci_hcd:usb2
   17:  0  0  0  0  0  0
0  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   pata_marvell
   18:  0  0  0  0  0  0
0  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   i801_smbus
   19: 602063  0  0  0  0  0
0  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   snd_emu10k1
   23:   1889  0  0  0  0  0
0  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   ehci_hcd:usb4
   48:6224537  0  0  0  0  0
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  ahci
   49: 10  0  0  0  0  0
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  ahci
   50:   31194512  0  0  0  0  0
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  xhci_hcd
   51:  0  0  0  0  0  0
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  xhci_hcd
   52:  0  0  0  0  0  0
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  xhci_hcd
   53:  0  0  0  0  0  0
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  xhci_hcd
   54:  0  0  0  0  0  0
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  xhci_hcd
   55:  0  0  0  0  0  0
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  xhci_hcd
   56:  0  0  0  0  0  0
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  xhci_hcd
   57:  0  0  0  0  0  0
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  xhci_hcd
   58:1770753  0  0  0  0  0
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  eth0
   59:  0  0  0  0  0  0
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  eth1
   60:1672015  0  0  0  0  0
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  eth2-rx-0
   61:2889266  0  0  0  0  0
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  eth2-tx-0
   62:  2  0  0  0  0  0
0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  eth2
  NMI:480259210211129132
  138135   Non-maskable interrupts
  LOC:  101443384  104183840  103613415  102110376   99219886  100506540
   98662481   96369343   Local timer interrupts
  SPU:  0  0  0  0  0  0
0  0   Spurious interrupts
  PMI:480259210211129132
  138135   Performance monitoring interrupts
  IWI:  1  0  0  0  0  0
0  0   IRQ work interrupts
  RTR:  1  0  0  0  0  0
0  0   APIC ICR read retries
  RES: 797796  82005  71556  71029   9728  19203
17339  16821   Rescheduling interrupts
  CAL:931   1389   1310   1398   1347980
 1238   1247   Function call interrupts
  TLB:  11490   9816   8656  10847   5472   5196
 6390   6533   TLB shootdowns
  TRM:  0   

Re: [gentoo-user] linux kernel disabling irq 16

2015-07-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
how about not using an ancient kernel?

2015-07-10 11:54 GMT+02:00 cov...@ccs.covici.com:

 Hi folks.  I am using 3.16.3-gentoo kernel from gentoo-sources and I get
 the following sometime after a boot:
 Jul  9 20:24:26 ccs.covici.com kernel: Disabling IRQ #16
 This is preceeded by a call trace and on my consoles I see the
 additional  message  notody cares boot with irqpoll option.

 I did some googling and this seems to happen even in  3.19 kernels.  So
 far the system has been still working, (I am not using a display manager
 right now), but  it seems an instability and the funny thing is that
 irq 16 does have a handler -- here is the complete /proc/interrupts
CPU0   CPU1   CPU2   CPU3   CPU4   CPU5
CPU6   CPU7
   0: 26  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   IO-APIC-edge  timer
   1:  51549  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   IO-APIC-edge  i8042
   9:  0  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   acpi
  12:  4  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   IO-APIC-edge  i8042
  16: 213194  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   ehci_hcd:usb2
  17:  0  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   pata_marvell
  18:  0  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   i801_smbus
  19: 602063  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   snd_emu10k1
  23:   1889  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   ehci_hcd:usb4
  48:6224537  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  ahci
  49: 10  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  ahci
  50:   31194512  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  xhci_hcd
  51:  0  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  xhci_hcd
  52:  0  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  xhci_hcd
  53:  0  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  xhci_hcd
  54:  0  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  xhci_hcd
  55:  0  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  xhci_hcd
  56:  0  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  xhci_hcd
  57:  0  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  xhci_hcd
  58:1770753  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  eth0
  59:  0  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  eth1
  60:1672015  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  eth2-rx-0
  61:2889266  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  eth2-tx-0
  62:  2  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  eth2
 NMI:480259210211129132
 138135   Non-maskable interrupts
 LOC:  101443384  104183840  103613415  102110376   99219886  100506540
  98662481   96369343   Local timer interrupts
 SPU:  0  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   Spurious interrupts
 PMI:480259210211129132
 138135   Performance monitoring interrupts
 IWI:  1  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   IRQ work interrupts
 RTR:  1  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   APIC ICR read retries
 RES: 797796  82005  71556  71029   9728  19203
   17339  16821   Rescheduling interrupts
 CAL:931   1389   1310   1398   1347980
1238   1247   Function call interrupts
 TLB:  11490   9816   8656  10847   5472   5196
6390   6533   TLB shootdowns
 TRM:  0  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   Thermal event interrupts
 THR:  0  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   Threshold APIC interrupts
 MCE:  0  0  0  

Re: [gentoo-user] linux kernel disabling irq 16

2015-07-10 Thread covici
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 6:41 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
 volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
  how about not using an ancient kernel?
 
  2015-07-10 11:54 GMT+02:00 cov...@ccs.covici.com:
 
  Hi folks.  I am using 3.16.3-gentoo kernel from gentoo-sources and I get
  the following sometime after a boot:
 
 I'd hardly call 3.16 ancient, but it isn't a supported stable kernel.
 If you want longterm I'd stick with 3.18 or 3.14.

Thanks, anyway to tell which ones are supported?  The distributions are
all over the place, ubunto is 3.13 and I think Debian Jessie is 3.16.


-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] linux kernel disabling irq 16

2015-07-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 6:41 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 how about not using an ancient kernel?

 2015-07-10 11:54 GMT+02:00 cov...@ccs.covici.com:

 Hi folks.  I am using 3.16.3-gentoo kernel from gentoo-sources and I get
 the following sometime after a boot:

I'd hardly call 3.16 ancient, but it isn't a supported stable kernel.
If you want longterm I'd stick with 3.18 or 3.14.

-- 
Rich



Re: [gentoo-user] linux kernel disabling irq 16

2015-07-10 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 10 July 2015 06:51:43 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
 Would not do any good, the bug is still there under 3.19.  Right now I
 am stuck with this one till I fix a bug in speakup.

Or you could just do what it says and add irqpoll to your kernel command 
line. I've had it there for yonks and not noticed any side effects.

The last time I tried removing it was on a recent kernel, 3.high teens. I 
got the warning message so I put it back in.

-- 
Rgds
Peter




Re: [gentoo-user] linux kernel disabling irq 16

2015-07-10 Thread covici
Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote:

 On Friday 10 July 2015 06:51:43 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
  Would not do any good, the bug is still there under 3.19.  Right now I
  am stuck with this one till I fix a bug in speakup.
 
 Or you could just do what it says and add irqpoll to your kernel command 
 line. I've had it there for yonks and not noticed any side effects.
 
 The last time I tried removing it was on a recent kernel, 3.high teens. I 
 got the warning message so I put it back in.

hmmm, my google search indicated that not working for some people, but I
can certainly try it and see what happens.

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com