Re: [gentoo-user] llvm not updating with @world
On Sat, Mar 04, 2017 at 10:31:27AM -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 03/04/2017 10:18 AM, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > > > > So, that will bring in the update, just like emerge -1a sys-devel/llvm > > will. > > > > But, why isn't --deep @world doing so? Is it bug-reporting time? > > > > (There is one other slight possible anomoly I could find: > > 'equery depends sys-devel/llvm' returns llvm as a dependency of itself: > > Yeah, I'm out of my depth. Just moments ago, there was a post to the > portage list about LLVM and --with-bdeps: > > https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage-dev/message/f1dfb5c37e6c3db1c2f22c137a4b15af > > Some combination of the portage/llvm teams might know what's going on. OK - thanks for looking at it and confirming I'm not missing something obvious, which is my want, or that I was not misunderstanding what --deep was supposed to do. I'll file the bug.
Re: [gentoo-user] llvm not updating with @world
On 03/04/2017 10:18 AM, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > > So, that will bring in the update, just like emerge -1a sys-devel/llvm > will. > > But, why isn't --deep @world doing so? Is it bug-reporting time? > > (There is one other slight possible anomoly I could find: > 'equery depends sys-devel/llvm' returns llvm as a dependency of itself: Yeah, I'm out of my depth. Just moments ago, there was a post to the portage list about LLVM and --with-bdeps: https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage-dev/message/f1dfb5c37e6c3db1c2f22c137a4b15af Some combination of the portage/llvm teams might know what's going on.
Re: [gentoo-user] llvm not updating with @world
On Sat, Mar 04, 2017 at 09:55:30AM -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 03/04/2017 09:37 AM, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > > > > Michael, thanks for your response. No, I did not do a one-shot; llvm > > was brought in by way of mesa -> gallium; this is llvm's only use on > > this system as far as I know. > > > > Also, 'emerge -ac' shows no packages to remove. > > > > Well, there goes my one good idea =) > > You can try doing "emerge -pe --tree @world" to see if llvm would get > pulled in by anything in your system. If it is, then a --deep update > --with-bdeps should be updating it. > > One more desperate attempt: the --complete-graph option is weaker than > --deep, I think. What happens if you remove it? (I'm wondering if > --complete-graph overrides --deep). > > If neither of those experiments are illuminating, you should file a bug. > The portage team has a better understanding of why some things are skipped. Removing --complete-graph doesn't change anything. I don't usually use that, but only added it to see if it would shake something out, but of course it didn't. The emerge -pe --tree @world returns, in relevant part: [nomerge ] mail-client/thunderbird-45.7.0 [nomerge ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.31-r1 [ebuild R] gnome-base/librsvg-2.40.16 [ebuild R]x11-libs/pango-1.40.3 [ebuild R] media-libs/harfbuzz-1.4.3 [ebuild R] x11-libs/cairo-1.14.8 [ebuild R] media-libs/mesa-17.0.0 [ebuild U ]sys-devel/llvm-3.9.1-r1 [3.7.1-r3] USE=[clip] So, that will bring in the update, just like emerge -1a sys-devel/llvm will. But, why isn't --deep @world doing so? Is it bug-reporting time? (There is one other slight possible anomoly I could find: 'equery depends sys-devel/llvm' returns llvm as a dependency of itself: gentoo3 ~ # equery depends sys-devel/llvm * These packages depend on sys-devel/llvm: media-libs/mesa-17.0.0 [cut massive amnount of non-llvm-related options] sys-devel/llvm-3.7.1-r3 (>=sys-devel/llvm-3.5) gentoo3 ~ # Is this relevant or expected?) Thanks again.
Re: [gentoo-user] llvm not updating with @world
On 03/04/2017 09:37 AM, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > > Michael, thanks for your response. No, I did not do a one-shot; llvm > was brought in by way of mesa -> gallium; this is llvm's only use on > this system as far as I know. > > Also, 'emerge -ac' shows no packages to remove. > Well, there goes my one good idea =) You can try doing "emerge -pe --tree @world" to see if llvm would get pulled in by anything in your system. If it is, then a --deep update --with-bdeps should be updating it. One more desperate attempt: the --complete-graph option is weaker than --deep, I think. What happens if you remove it? (I'm wondering if --complete-graph overrides --deep). If neither of those experiments are illuminating, you should file a bug. The portage team has a better understanding of why some things are skipped.
Re: [gentoo-user] llvm not updating with @world
On Sat, Mar 04, 2017 at 09:30:42AM -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 03/04/2017 06:38 AM, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > > Hi all - I'm running a systemd/hardened desktop with > > ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64". > > The result of an 'emerge -auDN --with-bdeps=y --complete-graph @world' is > > 'Nothing to merge; quitting.' > > > > However, if I 'emerge -1a sys-devel/llvm', I get: > > '[ebuild r U ] sys-devel/llvm-3.9.1-r1 [3.7.1-r3]' and > > '[ebuild rR] media-libs/mesa-17.0.0' > > > > So, why is a reinstall of llvm triggering an upgrade but an @world is not? > > > > Once upon a time, did you "emerge --oneshot llvm"? You can check by > doing an "emerge --depclean" to see if llvm would be removed. Michael, thanks for your response. No, I did not do a one-shot; llvm was brought in by way of mesa -> gallium; this is llvm's only use on this system as far as I know. Also, 'emerge -ac' shows no packages to remove.
Re: [gentoo-user] llvm not updating with @world
On 03/04/2017 06:38 AM, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > Hi all - I'm running a systemd/hardened desktop with > ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64". > The result of an 'emerge -auDN --with-bdeps=y --complete-graph @world' is > 'Nothing to merge; quitting.' > > However, if I 'emerge -1a sys-devel/llvm', I get: > '[ebuild r U ] sys-devel/llvm-3.9.1-r1 [3.7.1-r3]' and > '[ebuild rR] media-libs/mesa-17.0.0' > > So, why is a reinstall of llvm triggering an upgrade but an @world is not? > Once upon a time, did you "emerge --oneshot llvm"? You can check by doing an "emerge --depclean" to see if llvm would be removed.
[gentoo-user] llvm not updating with @world
Hi all - I'm running a systemd/hardened desktop with ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64". The result of an 'emerge -auDN --with-bdeps=y --complete-graph @world' is 'Nothing to merge; quitting.' However, if I 'emerge -1a sys-devel/llvm', I get: '[ebuild r U ] sys-devel/llvm-3.9.1-r1 [3.7.1-r3]' and '[ebuild rR] media-libs/mesa-17.0.0' So, why is a reinstall of llvm triggering an upgrade but an @world is not? Thanks
