Re: [gentoo-user] new box: 2 small puzzles (1 solved)

2007-10-26 Thread Eric Martin
Another responder mentioned block sizes.  Yes, that mb the problem.

 I'm new to USB sticks  haven't formatted them in any way:
 they seem to have an existing file system on them,
 but mb it's Fat32, which seems likely to be inefficient.
 So are there any standard recommendations for formatting them ?
 Do I simply do 'mke2fs' (the HDDs are formatted with ReiserFS) ?
 How about block size ?  Thanks for the replies so far.


Sticks are usually formatted w/FAT16 as M$ is giving people a hard time
about FAT32 (which is even more inefficent.)


Re: [gentoo-user] new box: 2 small puzzles (1 solved)

2007-10-20 Thread Philip Webb
071019 Peter Alfredsen wrote:
 On Friday 19 October 2007, Philip Webb wrote:
 (1) The mobo (ASUS P5K-VM) manual has as default 'Configure SATA as IDE',
 which I have left as is.  However, while the System Rescue CD finds the HDD
 as '/dev/sda', neither the Gentoo Live CD nor Knoppix sees it:
 should I change the mobo setting (the HDD is SATA) ?
 If it has a setting Configure SATA as AHCI, try that.
 AHCI is a generic-ish interface that should improve compatibility.

Yes, that did the trick !  Thanks.

Anyone have a suggestion why using 'cp -a' to copy a lot of subdirs
takes additional space on the USB stick (over the HDD space used) ?
It doesn't happen when copying a straight set of files.
It won't affect today's installation job,
but wb useful for the future, if there's some way of avoiding it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] new box: 2 small puzzles (1 solved)

2007-10-20 Thread b.n.
Philip Webb ha scritto:
 071019 Peter Alfredsen wrote:
 On Friday 19 October 2007, Philip Webb wrote:
 (1) The mobo (ASUS P5K-VM) manual has as default 'Configure SATA as IDE',
 which I have left as is.  However, while the System Rescue CD finds the HDD
 as '/dev/sda', neither the Gentoo Live CD nor Knoppix sees it:
 should I change the mobo setting (the HDD is SATA) ?
 If it has a setting Configure SATA as AHCI, try that.
 AHCI is a generic-ish interface that should improve compatibility.
 
 Yes, that did the trick !  Thanks.
 
 Anyone have a suggestion why using 'cp -a' to copy a lot of subdirs
 takes additional space on the USB stick (over the HDD space used) ?
 It doesn't happen when copying a straight set of files.
 It won't affect today's installation job,
 but wb useful for the future, if there's some way of avoiding it.

I've seen similar effects on my fat32 USB sticks. What filesystem do you
use on them?


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Re: [gentoo-user] new box: 2 small puzzles (1 solved)

2007-10-20 Thread Daniel Iliev
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 04:51:25 -0400
Philip Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 Anyone have a suggestion why using 'cp -a' to copy a lot of subdirs
 takes additional space on the USB stick (over the HDD space used) ?
 It doesn't happen when copying a straight set of files.
 It won't affect today's installation job,
 but wb useful for the future, if there's some way of avoiding it.
 

Are the source media and the usb stick formatted with the same file
system? Are the block sizes of the file systems the same?


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Re: [gentoo-user] new box: 2 small puzzles (1 solved)

2007-10-20 Thread Philip Webb
071020 b.n. wrote:
 Philip Webb ha scritto:
 Anyone have a suggestion why using 'cp -a' to copy a lot of subdirs
 takes additional space on the USB stick (over the HDD space used) ?
 It doesn't happen when copying a straight set of files.
 It won't affect today's installation job,
 but wb useful for the future, if there's some way of avoiding it.
 I've seen similar effects on my fat32 USB sticks.
 What filesystem do you use on them?

Another responder mentioned block sizes.  Yes, that mb the problem.
I'm new to USB sticks  haven't formatted them in any way:
they seem to have an existing file system on them,
but mb it's Fat32, which seems likely to be inefficient.
So are there any standard recommendations for formatting them ?
Do I simply do 'mke2fs' (the HDDs are formatted with ReiserFS) ?
How about block size ?  Thanks for the replies so far.

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Re: [gentoo-user] new box: 2 small puzzles (1 solved)

2007-10-20 Thread Florian Philipp

Philip Webb schrieb:

071020 b.n. wrote:

Philip Webb ha scritto:

Anyone have a suggestion why using 'cp -a' to copy a lot of subdirs
takes additional space on the USB stick (over the HDD space used) ?
It doesn't happen when copying a straight set of files.
It won't affect today's installation job,
but wb useful for the future, if there's some way of avoiding it.

I've seen similar effects on my fat32 USB sticks.
What filesystem do you use on them?


Another responder mentioned block sizes.  Yes, that mb the problem.
I'm new to USB sticks  haven't formatted them in any way:
they seem to have an existing file system on them,
but mb it's Fat32, which seems likely to be inefficient.
So are there any standard recommendations for formatting them ?
Do I simply do 'mke2fs' (the HDDs are formatted with ReiserFS) ?
How about block size ?  Thanks for the replies so far.



Ext2 is a good choice as long as you don't want to exchange data with 
Windows (except you can install the ext2 driver on the Windows 
machines). Don't use journalized file systems like Ext3 and Reiserfs 
since their journal causes additional write operations and flash media 
only last a limited number of them. (of course, you could disable 
reiserfs's journal but that's just additional trouble).


Blocksize for Ext2? As long as you don't transfer many very small files 
(=3k), stick with the default.


If you want to continue using FAT, you should create zip or tar 
archives. That way, you can preserve file permissions and don't wast 
space on your stick.

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