Re: [gentoo-user] partition sizes and home directories
On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 09:44 +, sean wrote: I know this can be a tough call on how to partition a drive, but I am looking for some input. My system will be used as for my own personal use, no server for outside, though I may run a web server for private in home use, some games, whatever I wish to play and experiment. The most simple and effective partition setup for a basic install is just boot-root-swap! ie, a /boot partition, a / and some swapspace. Everything else can hang off there. If however, you're like me and you have lots of user downloaded stuff, I would consider either an extra /home partition, or an ftp shared directory where all your vids / music / games / bug stuff can go. Users, mainly just me, and perhaps a family member or three. Here is what I quickly setup. $ df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda3 471M 271M 176M 61% / udev 1004M 208K 1004M 1% /dev /dev/hda1 38M 2.6M 34M 8% /boot /dev/hda5 4.6G 185M 4.2G 5% /var /dev/hda6 31G 2.3G 27G 8% /usr shm 1004M 0 1004M 0% /dev/shm personally I wouldn't bother with usr and var, but many people will disagree. What caught me off guard was that fact that /home is located under / and that is where my user profiles are being set, instead of /usr/home like it is on my freebsd system. When I copied over my personal files, it quickly filled up the / partition, which I have since deleted. *lol* You've since deleted the / partition? How is that working for you?!! Now I noticed that there is a /usr/home, what exactly is that used for, since users are not there by default? you probably made it by mistake when copying stuff from your freebsd machine. I would figure /boot does not really change much in size, leave as is, maybe shrink a few mb. I couldn't see a /boot in your `df -h` list, probably because it wasn't mounted. I've never needed a /boot larger than 100Mb, and I'm constantly recompiling kernels, with a few old versions lying around in /boot just in case. /var, up and down, perhaps bring it down a gig, gig and a half. /usr, would grow depending on software installs, much as possible. I have not installed much currently. remember /usr/portage. This can potentially hog a lot of space. I have a final partition (ok I lied about only having boot-root-swap :) mounted as /home/ftp/pub/gentoo, which is mounted again as /usr/portage. This lets me share my distfiles with others, as well as keeping the size of /usr down. If /home was on its own, I am guessing that the current / allocation would be fine? Anyone confirm? If you want to keep / small, then don't forget about /opt. Quite a few (but getting fewer and fewer) large apps install themselves there. ATM in /opt I have enemy-territory, quake 3, blackdown jdk and jre, vmware, and acrobat 7, as well as some others, totalling 1.1Gb!! Now I just have to figure what I want /home to be, or perhaps could the default setup for users be located in /usr/home? Would this cause problems? possibly Is it non standard? What standard? The everybody-else-does-it standard, or the LFS standard??!! -- Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] partition sizes and home directories
I know this can be a tough call on how to partition a drive, but I am looking for some input. My system will be used as for my own personal use, no server for outside, though I may run a web server for private in home use, some games, whatever I wish to play and experiment. Users, mainly just me, and perhaps a family member or three. Here is what I quickly setup. $ df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda3 471M 271M 176M 61% / udev 1004M 208K 1004M 1% /dev /dev/hda1 38M 2.6M 34M 8% /boot /dev/hda5 4.6G 185M 4.2G 5% /var /dev/hda6 31G 2.3G 27G 8% /usr shm 1004M 0 1004M 0% /dev/shm What caught me off guard was that fact that /home is located under / and that is where my user profiles are being set, instead of /usr/home like it is on my freebsd system. When I copied over my personal files, it quickly filled up the / partition, which I have since deleted. Now I noticed that there is a /usr/home, what exactly is that used for, since users are not there by default? I would figure /boot does not really change much in size, leave as is, maybe shrink a few mb. /var, up and down, perhaps bring it down a gig, gig and a half. /usr, would grow depending on software installs, much as possible. I have not installed much currently. If /home was on its own, I am guessing that the current / allocation would be fine? Anyone confirm? Now I just have to figure what I want /home to be, or perhaps could the default setup for users be located in /usr/home? Would this cause problems? Is it non standard? Thanks Sean -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] partition sizes and home directories
On Tuesday 25 October 2005 04:44, sean wrote: I know this can be a tough call on how to partition a drive, but I am looking for some input. My system will be used as for my own personal use, no server for outside, though I may run a web server for private in home use, some games, whatever I wish to play and experiment. If you think you might do re-installs, put /home on a seperate partition, otherwise I normally just have /boot and /. Users, mainly just me, and perhaps a family member or three. Here is what I quickly setup. $ df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda3 471M 271M 176M 61% / udev 1004M 208K 1004M 1% /dev /dev/hda1 38M 2.6M 34M 8% /boot /dev/hda5 4.6G 185M 4.2G 5% /var /dev/hda6 31G 2.3G 27G 8% /usr shm 1004M 0 1004M 0% /dev/shm What caught me off guard was that fact that /home is located under / and that is where my user profiles are being set, instead of /usr/home like it is on my freebsd system. When I copied over my personal files, it quickly filled up the / partition, which I have since deleted. Now I noticed that there is a /usr/home, what exactly is that used for, since users are not there by default? I would figure /boot does not really change much in size, leave as is, maybe shrink a few mb. /var, up and down, perhaps bring it down a gig, gig and a half. /usr, would grow depending on software installs, much as possible. I have not installed much currently. If /home was on its own, I am guessing that the current / allocation would be fine? Anyone confirm? Now I just have to figure what I want /home to be, or perhaps could the default setup for users be located in /usr/home? Would this cause problems? Is it non standard? Thanks Sean -- John Jolet Your On-Demand IT Department 512-762-0729 www.jolet.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] partition sizes and home directories
I would strongly recomend putting the home directory on its own partition. It then doesn't matter too much where you decide to mount it, although some broken applications may assume the Linux convention of using /home, so it is probably safest to preserve this and use a sym link if you want to be able to use the /usr/home you are familiar with. Always keep the root partition small and relatively stable, since it is minimal platform from which the rest of the system can be recovered. I keep mine to about 20M, so I don't need to keep a separate /boot partition. /tmp is a sym link to /var/tmp, so that in secure mode /var and /home are the only two filesystems that should need to be mounted read/write. The former is writeable space for the system, and the latter for users. Other filesystem should only need to be made writeable when modifying the sytstem if everything is configured right. In practice there are still some annoying exceptions (like /etc/passwd and /etc/mtab) which mean you have to do a bit more work to get the root filesystem able to be mounted readonly, but if it is small it doesn't take so long to back it up and fsck it after a crash, so it is probably only worth worrying about it for a secure system. Regards, DigbyT On Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 09:44:23AM +, sean wrote: I know this can be a tough call on how to partition a drive, but I am looking for some input. My system will be used as for my own personal use, no server for outside, though I may run a web server for private in home use, some games, whatever I wish to play and experiment. Users, mainly just me, and perhaps a family member or three. Here is what I quickly setup. $ df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda3 471M 271M 176M 61% / udev 1004M 208K 1004M 1% /dev /dev/hda1 38M 2.6M 34M 8% /boot /dev/hda5 4.6G 185M 4.2G 5% /var /dev/hda6 31G 2.3G 27G 8% /usr shm 1004M 0 1004M 0% /dev/shm What caught me off guard was that fact that /home is located under / and that is where my user profiles are being set, instead of /usr/home like it is on my freebsd system. When I copied over my personal files, it quickly filled up the / partition, which I have since deleted. Now I noticed that there is a /usr/home, what exactly is that used for, since users are not there by default? I would figure /boot does not really change much in size, leave as is, maybe shrink a few mb. /var, up and down, perhaps bring it down a gig, gig and a half. /usr, would grow depending on software installs, much as possible. I have not installed much currently. If /home was on its own, I am guessing that the current / allocation would be fine? Anyone confirm? Now I just have to figure what I want /home to be, or perhaps could the default setup for users be located in /usr/home? Would this cause problems? Is it non standard? Thanks Sean -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Digby R. S. Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.digbyt.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] partition sizes and home directories
sean wrote: I know this can be a tough call on how to partition a drive, but I am looking for some input. My system will be used as for my own personal use, no server for outside, though I may run a web server for private in home use, some games, whatever I wish to play and experiment. Users, mainly just me, and perhaps a family member or three. Here is what I quickly setup. $ df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda3 471M 271M 176M 61% / udev 1004M 208K 1004M 1% /dev /dev/hda1 38M 2.6M 34M 8% /boot /dev/hda5 4.6G 185M 4.2G 5% /var /dev/hda6 31G 2.3G 27G 8% /usr shm 1004M 0 1004M 0% /dev/shm Here is my filesystem setup, that has been working pretty well (the device names are because I use LVM): carcharias rjf # df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/sys-root 4.9G 2.3G 2.4G 50% / /dev/hda1 99M 17M 78M 18% /boot /dev/mapper/sys-tmp 2.0G 67M 1.8G 4% /tmp /dev/mapper/sys-var 4.9G 576M 4.1G 13% /var /dev/mapper/sys-home 59G 34G 22G 61% /home /dev/mapper/sys-opt 2.0G 380M 1.5G 21% /opt /dev/mapper/sys-local 992M 166M 776M 18% /usr/local /dev/mapper/sys-portage 992M 563M 379M 60% /usr/portage /dev/mapper/sys-distfiles 3.9G 2.4G 1.4G 64% /usr/portage/distfiles /dev/mapper/sys-packages 4.0G 129M 3.6G 4% /usr/portage/packages /dev/mapper/sys-share 3.9G 1.4G 2.4G 37% /usr/share /dev/mapper/sys-src 2.0G 823M 1.1G 44% /usr/src What caught me off guard was that fact that /home is located under / and that is where my user profiles are being set, instead of /usr/home like it is on my freebsd system. When I copied over my personal files, it quickly filled up the / partition, which I have since deleted. Now I noticed that there is a /usr/home, what exactly is that used for, since users are not there by default? No /usr/home on my system. My guess is that it is an artifact from your FreeBSD system. I would figure /boot does not really change much in size, leave as is, maybe shrink a few mb. /var, up and down, perhaps bring it down a gig, gig and a half. PORTAGE_TMPDIR defaults to /var/tmp, which means any builds will occur in /var. Beware that some builds require a large amount of disk space to complete. For example, building OpenOffice 2.0 on my system consumed something like 3G of tmp space. So if you shrink it, you should consider changing PORTAGE_TMPDIR in /etc/make.conf, or there may be times where you have to run PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/path/to/more/space emerge big package Now I just have to figure what I want /home to be, or perhaps could the default setup for users be located in /usr/home? Would this cause problems? Is it non standard? Yes, it is non-standard, but still possible. You just have to specify the home directory to adduser with the -b option. In any case, I highly recommend checking out LVM, and leave some space available on your disk(s), as it will allow you to easily grow things later if you run out of space somewhere. Cheers, -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
