Re: [gentoo-user] plainTeX instead of LaTeX
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, after removing tetex and installing texlive-2008 by following his guide http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/tex/texlive-migration-guide.xml I run into a mysterious problem: All my *.tex-files are handled as they would be written in LaTeX. But they are good old plainTeX. Where can I change thsi behaviour and what did I wrong in migrating from tetex? Thank you very much for your help in advance! Have a nice weekend! Kind regards, Meino Cramer I have moved from Tetex to Texlive without any problem. What kind of problem do you have? Regards, Hung
Re: [gentoo-user] plainTeX instead of LaTeX
Am Sun, 28 Jun 2009 06:30:58 +0200 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de: Hi, after removing tetex and installing texlive-2008 by following his guide http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/tex/texlive-migration-guide.xml I run into a mysterious problem: All my *.tex-files are handled as they would be written in LaTeX. But they are good old plainTeX. What application handles them as LaTeX? -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. | _ ASCII ribbon campaign Karl Marx | ( ) against HTML e-mail s...@sti@N GÜNTHER | X against M$ attachments mailto:sam...@guenther-roetgen.de | / \ www.asciiribbon.org signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] plainTeX instead of LaTeX
Hung Dang hungp...@gmail.com [09-06-28 10:27]: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, after removing tetex and installing texlive-2008 by following his guide http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/tex/texlive-migration-guide.xml I run into a mysterious problem: All my *.tex-files are handled as they would be written in LaTeX. But they are good old plainTeX. Where can I change thsi behaviour and what did I wrong in migrating from tetex? Thank you very much for your help in advance! Have a nice weekend! Kind regards, Meino Cramer I have moved from Tetex to Texlive without any problem. What kind of problem do you have? Regards, Hung Hi Hung, may I cite myself :;) All my *.tex-files are handled as they would be written in LaTeX. But they are good old plainTeX. or in other words: tex texfile.tex ends up in errors due to the fact, that texfile.tex contains syntax with LaTeX dont understand. Fo example a missing documentstyle. Regards, Meino -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] plainTeX instead of LaTeX
Sebastian Günther sam...@guenther-roetgen.de [09-06-28 10:32]: Am Sun, 28 Jun 2009 06:30:58 +0200 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de: Hi, after removing tetex and installing texlive-2008 by following his guide http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/tex/texlive-migration-guide.xml I run into a mysterious problem: All my *.tex-files are handled as they would be written in LaTeX. But they are good old plainTeX. What application handles them as LaTeX? -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. | _ ASCII ribbon campaign Karl Marx | ( ) against HTML e-mail s...@sti@N GÜNTHER | X against M$ attachments mailto:sam...@guenther-roetgen.de | / \ www.asciiribbon.org the /usr/bin/tex executable -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] plainTeX instead of LaTeX
On 6/28/09, meino.cra...@gmx.de meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: All my *.tex-files are handled as they would be written in LaTeX. But they are good old plainTeX. or in other words: tex texfile.tex ends up in errors due to the fact, that texfile.tex contains syntax with LaTeX dont understand. Fo example a missing documentstyle. man tex When called as virtex it will use the plain format. Not sure if this is what is called plainTeX, I've only used LaTeX. -- Arttu V.
Re: [gentoo-user] plainTeX instead of LaTeX
Arttu V. arttu...@gmail.com [09-06-28 13:27]: On 6/28/09, meino.cra...@gmx.de meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: All my *.tex-files are handled as they would be written in LaTeX. But they are good old plainTeX. or in other words: tex texfile.tex ends up in errors due to the fact, that texfile.tex contains syntax with LaTeX dont understand. Fo example a missing documentstyle. man tex When called as virtex it will use the plain format. Not sure if this is what is called plainTeX, I've only used LaTeX. -- Arttu V. Yes, it is... tetex leaves the names of the executables untouched... Ok, here is what I got: /home/mccramervirtex texfile.tex This is TeXk, Version 3.1415926 (Web2C 7.5.7) %-line parsing enabled. kpathsea: Running mktexfmt plain.fmt I can't find the format file `plain.fmt'! /home/mccramerlocate plainfmt.tex /home/mccramer (what means, 'locate' didn't found anything like that). Lost? -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] plainTeX instead of LaTeX
On 6/28/09, meino.cra...@gmx.de meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Arttu V. arttu...@gmail.com [09-06-28 13:27]: man tex When called as virtex it will use the plain format. Not sure if this is what is called plainTeX, I've only used LaTeX. Yes, it is... tetex leaves the names of the executables untouched... Ok, here is what I got: /home/mccramervirtex texfile.tex This is TeXk, Version 3.1415926 (Web2C 7.5.7) %-line parsing enabled. kpathsea: Running mktexfmt plain.fmt I can't find the format file `plain.fmt'! Could they be hidden in the USE=extra as Debian seems to have something similar sounding in such a package: http://packages.debian.org/fi/lenny/texlive-formats-extra texsis -- Plain TeX macros for Physicists. Unfortunately I have USE=-extra as they caused some trouble on Gentoo and I didn't really need them at that moment. -- Arttu V.
Re: [gentoo-user] plainTeX instead of LaTeX
Arttu V. arttu...@gmail.com [09-06-28 13:52]: On 6/28/09, meino.cra...@gmx.de meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Arttu V. arttu...@gmail.com [09-06-28 13:27]: man tex When called as virtex it will use the plain format. Not sure if this is what is called plainTeX, I've only used LaTeX. Yes, it is... tetex leaves the names of the executables untouched... Ok, here is what I got: /home/mccramervirtex texfile.tex This is TeXk, Version 3.1415926 (Web2C 7.5.7) %-line parsing enabled. kpathsea: Running mktexfmt plain.fmt I can't find the format file `plain.fmt'! Could they be hidden in the USE=extra as Debian seems to have something similar sounding in such a package: http://packages.debian.org/fi/lenny/texlive-formats-extra texsis -- Plain TeX macros for Physicists. Unfortunately I have USE=-extra as they caused some trouble on Gentoo and I didn't really need them at that moment. -- Arttu V. LaTeX macros (as LaTeX is nothing else than macros) are based on plaintex macros. So I am very...hrrrm...astonished, that it seems, the installation wants to format my TeX file in LaTeX manner and seems not to know anything about plain tex. -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] plainTeX instead of LaTeX
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: /home/mccramervirtex texfile.tex This is TeXk, Version 3.1415926 (Web2C 7.5.7) %-line parsing enabled. kpathsea: Running mktexfmt plain.fmt I can't find the format file `plain.fmt'! /home/mccramerlocate plainfmt.tex Go to http://www.tug.org/texinfohtml/web2c.html Search for 'plain.fmt'... It seems like this could be solved by making a symbolic link from 'tex.fmt' (as suggested elsewhere). Haven't tried this myself so no guarantees... MfG Peter K
Re: [gentoo-user] plainTeX instead of LaTeX
pk pete...@coolmail.se [09-06-28 19:37]: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: /home/mccramervirtex texfile.tex This is TeXk, Version 3.1415926 (Web2C 7.5.7) %-line parsing enabled. kpathsea: Running mktexfmt plain.fmt I can't find the format file `plain.fmt'! /home/mccramerlocate plainfmt.tex Go to http://www.tug.org/texinfohtml/web2c.html Search for 'plain.fmt'... It seems like this could be solved by making a symbolic link from 'tex.fmt' (as suggested elsewhere). Haven't tried this myself so no guarantees... MfG Peter K ...and dont forget to do a ls -R . ls-R in the according root directory, from where are all *.fmt are installed, otherwise kpathsea will fail to find the file. But what was the idea behind tex to behave like compiling/texing for /LaTeX/ instead of plain TeX? This is the first time, when I have to call virtex to compile/tex for plain tex format... Even the manpages say: This version of TeX looks at its command line to see what name it was called under. If they exist, then both initex and virtex are symbolic links to the tex executable. When called as initex (or when the -ini option is given) it can be used to precompile macros into a .fmt file. When called as virtex it will use the plain format. When called under any other name, TeX will use that name as the name of the format to use. i (But:) For example, when called as tex the tex format is used, which is identical to the plain format. The commands defined by the plain format are documented in The TeX for nroffbook. Other formats that are often available include latex and amstex. So, there seems something non-standard or my installation git rotten regarding this... Normally initex is used to create *.fmt files. And virtex (from virgin tex) is the one which does it works without any tex format -- the way to write in TeX assembler so to say... Myterious the world we live in, mysterious the way we go... Slightly confused, Meino Cramer -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] plainTeX instead of LaTeX
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: ...and dont forget to do a ls -R . ls-R in the according root directory, from where are all *.fmt are installed, otherwise kpathsea will fail to find the file. Oh yeah, forgot about that. But what was the idea behind tex to behave like compiling/texing for /LaTeX/ instead of plain TeX? This is the first time, when I have to call virtex to compile/tex for plain tex format... Even the manpages say: This version of TeX looks at its command line to see what name it was called under. If they exist, then both initex and virtex are symbolic links to the tex executable. When called as initex (or when the -ini option is given) it can be used to precompile macros into a .fmt file. When called as virtex it will use the plain format. When called under any other name, TeX will use that name as the name of the format to use. i (But:) For example, when called as tex the tex format is used, which is identical to the plain format. The commands defined by the plain format are documented in The TeX for nroffbook. Other formats that are often available include latex and amstex. So, there seems something non-standard or my installation git rotten regarding this... Well, if possible, you could always try this on another system, to see if it's unique to your machine... Normally initex is used to create *.fmt files. And virtex (from virgin tex) is the one which does it works without any tex format -- the way to write in TeX assembler so to say... Myterious the world we live in, mysterious the way we go... Couldn't agree more. :-) MfG Peter K
[gentoo-user] plainTeX instead of LaTeX
Hi, after removing tetex and installing texlive-2008 by following his guide http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/tex/texlive-migration-guide.xml I run into a mysterious problem: All my *.tex-files are handled as they would be written in LaTeX. But they are good old plainTeX. Where can I change thsi behaviour and what did I wrong in migrating from tetex? Thank you very much for your help in advance! Have a nice weekend! Kind regards, Meino Cramer -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
