Re: [gentoo-user] portage - xcdroast

2005-09-08 Thread Alex
On Thursday 08 September 2005 01:35, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  but I really like the fact that esync shows all the new/updated
 ebuilds that were transfered.
 A lot of software I only saw listed there and never thought about was tried
 and kept after an esync ;)

eix also supports this, as from 0.30 I think, with eix-sync. :)

but as Nick said those are the tools of the devil and not the way real 
Gent'men should do it ;)
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage - xcdroast

2005-09-07 Thread Preston Hagar
On 9/6/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
as someone already said emerge eixthen runupdate-eix (you need to be root to do that part)this creates some sort of very quick index to your ebuilds which is MUCHfaster to search than emerge -s.
then just useeix searchterm...--Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Another good script/program to try is esearch. Just emerge
esearch then do eupdatedb to update the index of ebuilds.
Then, the next time you do an emerge sync, you can just type esync
instead and it will update portage and your esearch database. It
also prints out all of the updated packages in a nice fashion after the
sync. With esearch, you can type esearch searchterm to search
for packages. From my understanding (I have never really looked
into it), it is basically locate that only searches through
portage. It is one of my favorite gentoo tools and I would highly
recommend it.

Preston



Re: [gentoo-user] portage - xcdroast

2005-09-07 Thread Nick Rout

On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 09:56:24 -0500
Preston Hagar wrote:

 On 9/6/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  as someone already said emerge eix
  
  then run
  
  update-eix (you need to be root to do that part)
  
  this creates some sort of very quick index to your ebuilds which is MUCH
  faster to search than emerge -s.
  
  then just use
  
  eix searchterm
  ...
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 Another good script/program to try is esearch. Just emerge esearch then do 
 eupdatedb to update the index of ebuilds. Then, the next time you do an 
 emerge sync, you can just type esync instead and it will update portage 
 and your esearch database. It also prints out all of the updated packages in 
 a nice fashion after the sync. With esearch, you can type esearch 
 searchterm to search for packages. From my understanding (I have never 
 really looked into it), it is basically locate that only searches through 
 portage. It is one of my favorite gentoo tools and I would highly recommend 
 it.
 
 Preston

Yes esearch has its advantages (esync being very handy), but update-eix
seems so much faster than eupdatedb that i abandoned esearch.

Still, each to their own, yorkshire accentI remember the days when men
were men and portage was small enough to be searched conveniently with
emerge -s|S on an arthritic 486 with 4M RAM.  We used to get up int
morning, wind generator to charge batteries for computer, update portage
via 2400 baud modem, then emerge -s for new packages before writing new
software 25 hours a day AND pay tuppence a day for privilege. Tell that to the 
youth of today and they won't believe you./yorkshire accent

(of course thats why portage is written in ... python)


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Re: [gentoo-user] portage - xcdroast

2005-09-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Thursday 08 September 2005 03:18, Nick Rout wrote:
 On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 09:56:24 -0500

 Preston Hagar wrote:
  On 9/6/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   as someone already said emerge eix
  
   then run
  
   update-eix (you need to be root to do that part)
  
   this creates some sort of very quick index to your ebuilds which is
   MUCH faster to search than emerge -s.
  
   then just use
  
   eix searchterm
   ...
   --
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  Another good script/program to try is esearch. Just emerge esearch then
  do eupdatedb to update the index of ebuilds. Then, the next time you do
  an emerge sync, you can just type esync instead and it will update
  portage and your esearch database. It also prints out all of the updated
  packages in a nice fashion after the sync. With esearch, you can type
  esearch searchterm to search for packages. From my understanding (I
  have never really looked into it), it is basically locate that only
  searches through portage. It is one of my favorite gentoo tools and I
  would highly recommend it.
 
  Preston

 Yes esearch has its advantages (esync being very handy), but update-eix
 seems so much faster than eupdatedb that i abandoned esearch.


when using 'esync' why should anybody use eupdatedb? And since I do not watch 
the esync running but doing stuff I do not care about the minute it takes 
longer - but I really like the fact that esync shows all the new/updated 
ebuilds that were transfered.
A lot of software I only saw listed there and never thought about was tried 
and kept after an esync ;)
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage - xcdroast

2005-09-06 Thread Javier Uribe
El Mar 06 Sep 2005 01:02, Nick Rout escribió:
 On Mon, 2005-09-05 at 19:06 -0400, John Dangler wrote:
  Anyone know why the xcdroast was taken off the mirrors?
  There is a bug entered regarding xcdroast not being able to be downloaded
  (which I got when I did emerge xcdroast).
  It seems that the only reason for it not being there is either because
  there's something _really_ wrong with it.
 
  Or, does anyone have another recommendation for cd/dvd graphical frontend
  in gnome?

 Does nautilus do it? I notice eix nautilus returns (among others):

 gnome-extra/nautilus-cd-burner
  Available versions:  2.10.0 2.10.1 ~2.10.1-r1[2]  2.10.2
 ~2.10.2-r1[2]  [M]2.11.7
  Installed:   2.10.1
  Homepage:http://www.gnome.org/
  Description: CD and DVD writer plugin for Nautilus

  John D

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gnomebaker

* emerge --sync
* ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge gnomebaker

enjoy! and greetings



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Re: [gentoo-user] portage - xcdroast

2005-09-06 Thread Christoph Gysin

Javier Uribe wrote:

* emerge --sync
* ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge gnomebaker


N!

The way to do it would be:

# mkdir -p /etc/portage
# echo app-cdr/gnomebaker ~x86  /etc/portage/package.keywords
# emerge -avt gnomebaker

Don't use ACCEPT_KEYWORDS on the command line. This has been discussed over and 
over again. Search the archives.


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Re: [gentoo-user] portage - xcdroast

2005-09-06 Thread Philip Webb
050906 Holly Bostick wrote:
 John Dangler schreef:
 Anyone know why the xcdroast was taken off the mirrors? 

I did an 'rsync'  2 days ago   'emerge pv xcdroast' looks ok,
but perhaps the problem arises during the actual emerging.

 Gnomebaker seems pretty OK ...
 I think I'll stick with K3b for the time being ...
 You might also try Nero for Linux (GTK1 interface) ...

Someone also suggested Graveman.

The problem with Gnomebaker, Graveman  K3b is that they all require
a host of sound-oriented dependencies.  Do they work with '--nodepends' ?

I've always used Xcdroast, so let's hope the problem is temporary,
tho' for ordinary data back-ups, it's not too difficult to use CLI.

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage - xcdroast

2005-09-06 Thread Holly Bostick
Philip Webb schreef:
 050906 Holly Bostick wrote:
 
John Dangler schreef:

Anyone know why the xcdroast was taken off the mirrors? 
 
 
 I did an 'rsync'  2 days ago   'emerge pv xcdroast' looks ok,
 but perhaps the problem arises during the actual emerging.
 
 
Gnomebaker seems pretty OK ...
I think I'll stick with K3b for the time being ...
You might also try Nero for Linux (GTK1 interface) ...
 
 
 Someone also suggested Graveman.
 
 The problem with Gnomebaker, Graveman  K3b is that they all require
 a host of sound-oriented dependencies.  Do they work with '--nodepends' ?

You might instead try controlling your USE flags:

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] app-cdr/k3b-0.12.3  -arts -css -debug +dvdr +encode
+ffmpeg +flac +hal -kde +kdeenablefinal +mp3 -musepack +vorbis -xinerama 0

If compiled with -arts, -mp3 -musepack -vorbis, k3b won't make sound
itself, and won't be able to encode audio CD's, which is what it's using
the sound-related utilities for;

kB [ebuild   R   ] app-cdr/gnomebaker-0.4.2  -debug +dvdr +flac +mp3
+nls +vorbis 0 kB
[ebuild  N] app-cdr/graveman-0.3.12_p4-r1  -debug -dvdr +flac +mp3
+nls +oggvorbis -sox 937 kB

If compiled -flac, -vorbis, -mp3, -oggvorbis and -sox, gnomebaker and
graveman will not be able to encode audio CDs, but will not add all the
'sound-related utilities'.

Since you seem to have no interest in burning audio CDs, this lack
should not be a problem for you.

Hope this helps,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage - xcdroast

2005-09-06 Thread Philip Webb
050906 Holly Bostick wrote:
 Philip Webb schreef:
 The problem with Gnomebaker, Graveman  K3b is that they all require
 a host of sound-oriented dependencies.  Do they work with '--nodepends' ?
 You might instead try controlling your USE flags:

I do, but new ones keep getting added ... (smile).

 If compiled with -arts, -mp3 -musepack -vorbis,
 k3b won't make sound itself, and won't be able to encode audio CD's
 If compiled -flac, -vorbis, -mp3, -oggvorbis and -sox,
 gnomebaker and graveman will not be able to encode audio CDs

In  /etc/make.conf , I had :

  USE=usb -alsa -arts -avi -encode -esd -mad -mikmod -oggvorbis -vorbis
   -oss -quicktime -xmms -berkdb -libg++ -mysql -postgres -f77 -nls

So I've split 'oggvorbis' as recommended in Gentoo dox
 added '-mad -mp3 -sox' as you suggest
(I had an idea 'mp3' also covered movies, but investigation says not).

However after rebooting, not much has changed :

  root: root emergeu -pv gnomebaker

  These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

  Calculating dependencies ...done!
  [ebuild N ] media-libs/libogg-1.1.2  410 kB
  [ebuild N ] media-libs/libvorbis-1.1.0  -aotuv 1,281 kB
  [ebuild N ] media-libs/gstreamer-0.8.10  -debug -doc 1,432 kB
  [ebuild N ] app-cdr/gnomebaker-0.4.2  -debug -dvdr -flac -mp3 -nls -vorbis

and

  root: root emerge -pv k3b

  These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

  Calculating dependencies ...done!
  [ebuild N ] media-sound/cdparanoia-3.9.8-r2  113 kB
  [ebuild N ] dev-libs/libsigc++-2.0.15  -debug -doc -test 1,566 kB
  [ebuild N ] dev-cpp/glibmm-2.6.1  -debug -doc 1,896 kB
  [ebuild N ] dev-cpp/gtkmm-2.4.11  -debug 3,837 kB
  [ebuild N ] media-libs/libao-0.8.5  -alsa -arts -esd -mmap -nas -static 261 kB
  [ebuild N ] dev-cpp/gconfmm-2.6.1  -debug 250 kB
  [ebuild N ] dev-cpp/libgnomecanvasmm-2.6.1  -debug 299 kB
  [ebuild N ] dev-cpp/libgnomemm-2.6.0  -debug 233 kB
  [ebuild N ] dev-cpp/libglademm-2.4.1  -debug 485 kB
  [ebuild N ] dev-cpp/gnome-vfsmm-2.6.1  -debug 283 kB
  [ebuild N ] dev-cpp/libgnomeuimm-2.6.0  -debug 289 kB
  [ebuild N ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.0  -debug -encode +gnome -pccts 1,994 kB
  [ebuild N ] media-libs/id3lib-3.8.3-r3  -doc 928 kB
  [ebuild N ] sci-libs/fftw-3.0.1-r2  -3dnow (-altivec) -mpi -sse -sse2 1,900 kB
  [ebuild N ] media-libs/libsamplerate-0.1.1-r1  -sndfile -static 683 kB
  [ebuild N ] media-libs/libogg-1.1.2  410 kB
  [ebuild N ] media-libs/libvorbis-1.1.0  -aotuv 1,281 kB
  [ebuild N ] media-sound/normalize-0.7.6-r2  -audiofile -mad -nls -xmms 292 kB
  [ebuild N ] app-cdr/k3b-0.11.24  -arts -debug -dvdr -encode -flac +kde 
-kdeenablefinal -mad +oggvorbis -xinerama 

I'm surprised to see '+oggvorbis' listed here,
as the flag is deprecated  I have '-ogg'  '-vorbis' in  make.conf .
I tried with 'USE=-oggvorbis', but it suppressed only  2  packages.
Perhaps I need '-gnome', as I never want to use the Gnome desktop,
but I'm not sure if that would suppress other things elsewhere which I want.

Thanx for your customary detailed  sensible help,
but something is still not quite right.

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RE: [gentoo-user] portage - xcdroast

2005-09-06 Thread John Dangler
Nick~
so far, you're batting 1000 at teaching new gentoo linux commands.
where do I get eix?

John D


-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 1:02 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] portage - xcdroast

On Mon, 2005-09-05 at 19:06 -0400, John Dangler wrote:
 Anyone know why the xcdroast was taken off the mirrors? 
 There is a bug entered regarding xcdroast not being able to be downloaded
 (which I got when I did emerge xcdroast).
 It seems that the only reason for it not being there is either because
 there's something _really_ wrong with it.
 
 Or, does anyone have another recommendation for cd/dvd graphical frontend
in
 gnome?
 

Does nautilus do it? I notice eix nautilus returns (among others):

gnome-extra/nautilus-cd-burner
 Available versions:  2.10.0 2.10.1 ~2.10.1-r1[2]  2.10.2
~2.10.2-r1[2]  [M]2.11.7
 Installed:   2.10.1
 Homepage:http://www.gnome.org/
 Description: CD and DVD writer plugin for Nautilus



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Re: [gentoo-user] portage - xcdroast

2005-09-06 Thread Alex
On Tuesday 06 September 2005 13:35, John Dangler wrote:
 where do I get eix?

# emerge eix ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage - xcdroast

2005-09-06 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 04:49 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
  John Dangler schreef:
  Anyone know why the xcdroast was taken off the mirrors? 
 
 I did an 'rsync'  2 days ago   'emerge pv xcdroast' looks ok,
 but perhaps the problem arises during the actual emerging.


Read the thread, the problem arises with downloading one of the source
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RE: [gentoo-user] portage - xcdroast

2005-09-06 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 09:35 -0400, John Dangler wrote:
 Nick~
 so far, you're batting 1000 at teaching new gentoo linux commands.
 where do I get eix?
 
 John D

as someone already said emerge eix

then run 

update-eix (you need to be root to do that part)

this creates some sort of very quick index to your ebuilds which is MUCH
faster to search than emerge -s.

then just use 

eix searchterm

to look for a package with searchterm in the name. It will also accept
regular expressions so:

eix ^kde$ will just return the package kde without kdemultimedia,
kdebase etc etc.

eix -S searchterm will also look in the description.

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage - xcdroast

2005-09-05 Thread Alex
On Monday 05 September 2005 23:06, John Dangler wrote:
 Or, does anyone have another recommendation for cd/dvd graphical frontend
 in gnome?

How about gnomebaker? it's in portage.
I've used it a bit and it looked pretty good (though not as good as k3b :) )
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage - xcdroast

2005-09-05 Thread Johám-Luís Miguéns Vila
On 19:06 Mon 05 Sep , John Dangler wrote:
 Anyone know why the xcdroast was taken off the mirrors? 
 There is a bug entered regarding xcdroast not being able to be downloaded
 (which I got when I did emerge xcdroast).
 It seems that the only reason for it not being there is either because
 there's something _really_ wrong with it.

Well, here i can fetch it... Try it again later.

 
 Or, does anyone have another recommendation for cd/dvd graphical frontend in
 gnome?
 

emerge -av graveman

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage - xcdroast

2005-09-05 Thread Holly Bostick
John Dangler schreef:
 Anyone know why the xcdroast was taken off the mirrors? 
 There is a bug entered regarding xcdroast not being able to be downloaded
 (which I got when I did emerge xcdroast).
 It seems that the only reason for it not being there is either because
 there's something _really_ wrong with it.
 
 Or, does anyone have another recommendation for cd/dvd graphical frontend in
 gnome?
 
 John D
 

Gnomebaker seems pretty OK-- quite nice, actually, though I can't seem
to make new folders in the layout (I'd have to make them in the regular
filesystem then copy them to the layout), but I didn't explore it all
that thoroughly.

I think I'll stick with K3b for the time being; you may not realize that
it can be built -kde and -arts (though you'll still have to install
kdelibs for it to run). It remains the most fully-featured GUI burning
program out there.

You might also try Nero for Linux (GTK1 interface). It pretty much does
most of what Nero for Windows does, certainly it handles all the basic
functions with aplomb (though not as much aplomb as K3b), although I
didn't really check to see how it handles the 'extra' features of Nero
Pro (does it encode video and audio, and what formats does it allow to
do so).

All available from Portage (though some may be ~arch masked).

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage - xcdroast

2005-09-05 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 2005-09-05 at 19:06 -0400, John Dangler wrote:
 Anyone know why the xcdroast was taken off the mirrors? 
 There is a bug entered regarding xcdroast not being able to be downloaded
 (which I got when I did emerge xcdroast).
 It seems that the only reason for it not being there is either because
 there's something _really_ wrong with it.
 
 Or, does anyone have another recommendation for cd/dvd graphical frontend in
 gnome?
 

Does nautilus do it? I notice eix nautilus returns (among others):

gnome-extra/nautilus-cd-burner
 Available versions:  2.10.0 2.10.1 ~2.10.1-r1[2]  2.10.2
~2.10.2-r1[2]  [M]2.11.7
 Installed:   2.10.1
 Homepage:http://www.gnome.org/
 Description: CD and DVD writer plugin for Nautilus



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