Re: [gentoo-user] re: duplicated packages

2013-09-20 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On 09/20/2013 04:37 AM, Dale wrote:
 Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
 On 09/19/2013 10:50 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 19/09/2013 20:58, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
 Howdy,

 Is having duplicate packages a good or a bad thing in gentoo? I'm clear
 about having duplicate packages for the kernel. I'm using the more
 recent one, but hanging on to the old one just in case.

 Perhaps, the reason for having duplicate packages is the fact that
 various packages I have installed on the system may require a different
 version of a package I may already have installed. Is that it?

 _box0=; equery list --duplicates '*'
  * Searching for * ...
 [IP-] [  ] app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.1.2-r6:4.1.2
 [IP-] [  ] app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.4-r2:4.4
 [IP-] [  ] dev-lang/python-2.7.5-r2:2.7
 [IP-] [  ] dev-lang/python-3.2.5-r2:3.2
 [IP-] [  ] dev-libs/openssl-0.9.8y:0.9.8
 [IP-] [  ] dev-libs/openssl-1.0.1e-r1:0
 [IP-] [  ] media-libs/lcms-1.19:0
 [IP-] [  ] media-libs/lcms-2.3:2
 [IP-] [  ] sys-devel/autoconf-2.13:2.1
 [IP-] [  ] sys-devel/autoconf-2.69:2.5
 [IP-] [  ] sys-devel/automake-1.10.3:1.10
 [IP-] [  ] sys-devel/automake-1.12.6:1.12
 [IP-] [  ] sys-devel/automake-1.13.4:1.13
 [IP-] [M ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.8.13:3.8.13
 [IP-] [  ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.10.7:3.10.7
 [IP-] [  ] virtual/libusb-0:0
 [IP-] [  ] virtual/libusb-1:1
 [IP-] [  ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.17:2
 [IP-] [  ] x11-libs/gtk+-3.4.4:3
 [IP-] [  ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r200:0
 [IP-] [  ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r300:3
 _
 Thanks.

 They are not duplicates they are called SLOTS

 And you have them for a reason - one thing needs package A version X,
 something else needs package A version Y. Usually, you can have only
 one, SLOTS let you have more than one that can co-exist.

 Don't worry about them, let them be. You need them.



 No worries.

 Thanks.



 As a example, if you were to remove python2.7, its been nice knowing
 you.  lol  There is no telling what all that would break and that is
 just one package.  I get a shiver up my spine just thinking about it. 
 It's always good to ask about this sort of thing.  The 20/20 rear view
 mirror view can bite.  ;-) 

 Dale

 :-)  :-) 

Nice analogy.

Thanks.




[gentoo-user] re: duplicated packages

2013-09-19 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
Howdy,

Is having duplicate packages a good or a bad thing in gentoo? I'm clear
about having duplicate packages for the kernel. I'm using the more
recent one, but hanging on to the old one just in case.

Perhaps, the reason for having duplicate packages is the fact that
various packages I have installed on the system may require a different
version of a package I may already have installed. Is that it?

_box0=; equery list --duplicates '*'
 * Searching for * ...
[IP-] [  ] app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.1.2-r6:4.1.2
[IP-] [  ] app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.4-r2:4.4
[IP-] [  ] dev-lang/python-2.7.5-r2:2.7
[IP-] [  ] dev-lang/python-3.2.5-r2:3.2
[IP-] [  ] dev-libs/openssl-0.9.8y:0.9.8
[IP-] [  ] dev-libs/openssl-1.0.1e-r1:0
[IP-] [  ] media-libs/lcms-1.19:0
[IP-] [  ] media-libs/lcms-2.3:2
[IP-] [  ] sys-devel/autoconf-2.13:2.1
[IP-] [  ] sys-devel/autoconf-2.69:2.5
[IP-] [  ] sys-devel/automake-1.10.3:1.10
[IP-] [  ] sys-devel/automake-1.12.6:1.12
[IP-] [  ] sys-devel/automake-1.13.4:1.13
[IP-] [M ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.8.13:3.8.13
[IP-] [  ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.10.7:3.10.7
[IP-] [  ] virtual/libusb-0:0
[IP-] [  ] virtual/libusb-1:1
[IP-] [  ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.17:2
[IP-] [  ] x11-libs/gtk+-3.4.4:3
[IP-] [  ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r200:0
[IP-] [  ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r300:3
_
Thanks.



Re: [gentoo-user] re: duplicated packages

2013-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 19/09/2013 20:58, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
 Howdy,
 
 Is having duplicate packages a good or a bad thing in gentoo? I'm clear
 about having duplicate packages for the kernel. I'm using the more
 recent one, but hanging on to the old one just in case.
 
 Perhaps, the reason for having duplicate packages is the fact that
 various packages I have installed on the system may require a different
 version of a package I may already have installed. Is that it?
 
 _box0=; equery list --duplicates '*'
  * Searching for * ...
 [IP-] [  ] app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.1.2-r6:4.1.2
 [IP-] [  ] app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.4-r2:4.4
 [IP-] [  ] dev-lang/python-2.7.5-r2:2.7
 [IP-] [  ] dev-lang/python-3.2.5-r2:3.2
 [IP-] [  ] dev-libs/openssl-0.9.8y:0.9.8
 [IP-] [  ] dev-libs/openssl-1.0.1e-r1:0
 [IP-] [  ] media-libs/lcms-1.19:0
 [IP-] [  ] media-libs/lcms-2.3:2
 [IP-] [  ] sys-devel/autoconf-2.13:2.1
 [IP-] [  ] sys-devel/autoconf-2.69:2.5
 [IP-] [  ] sys-devel/automake-1.10.3:1.10
 [IP-] [  ] sys-devel/automake-1.12.6:1.12
 [IP-] [  ] sys-devel/automake-1.13.4:1.13
 [IP-] [M ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.8.13:3.8.13
 [IP-] [  ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.10.7:3.10.7
 [IP-] [  ] virtual/libusb-0:0
 [IP-] [  ] virtual/libusb-1:1
 [IP-] [  ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.17:2
 [IP-] [  ] x11-libs/gtk+-3.4.4:3
 [IP-] [  ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r200:0
 [IP-] [  ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r300:3
 _
 Thanks.
 



They are not duplicates they are called SLOTS

And you have them for a reason - one thing needs package A version X,
something else needs package A version Y. Usually, you can have only
one, SLOTS let you have more than one that can co-exist.

Don't worry about them, let them be. You need them.



-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] re: duplicated packages

2013-09-19 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On 09/19/2013 10:50 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 19/09/2013 20:58, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
 Howdy,

 Is having duplicate packages a good or a bad thing in gentoo? I'm clear
 about having duplicate packages for the kernel. I'm using the more
 recent one, but hanging on to the old one just in case.

 Perhaps, the reason for having duplicate packages is the fact that
 various packages I have installed on the system may require a different
 version of a package I may already have installed. Is that it?

 _box0=; equery list --duplicates '*'
  * Searching for * ...
 [IP-] [  ] app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.1.2-r6:4.1.2
 [IP-] [  ] app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.4-r2:4.4
 [IP-] [  ] dev-lang/python-2.7.5-r2:2.7
 [IP-] [  ] dev-lang/python-3.2.5-r2:3.2
 [IP-] [  ] dev-libs/openssl-0.9.8y:0.9.8
 [IP-] [  ] dev-libs/openssl-1.0.1e-r1:0
 [IP-] [  ] media-libs/lcms-1.19:0
 [IP-] [  ] media-libs/lcms-2.3:2
 [IP-] [  ] sys-devel/autoconf-2.13:2.1
 [IP-] [  ] sys-devel/autoconf-2.69:2.5
 [IP-] [  ] sys-devel/automake-1.10.3:1.10
 [IP-] [  ] sys-devel/automake-1.12.6:1.12
 [IP-] [  ] sys-devel/automake-1.13.4:1.13
 [IP-] [M ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.8.13:3.8.13
 [IP-] [  ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.10.7:3.10.7
 [IP-] [  ] virtual/libusb-0:0
 [IP-] [  ] virtual/libusb-1:1
 [IP-] [  ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.17:2
 [IP-] [  ] x11-libs/gtk+-3.4.4:3
 [IP-] [  ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r200:0
 [IP-] [  ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r300:3
 _
 Thanks.



 They are not duplicates they are called SLOTS

 And you have them for a reason - one thing needs package A version X,
 something else needs package A version Y. Usually, you can have only
 one, SLOTS let you have more than one that can co-exist.

 Don't worry about them, let them be. You need them.



No worries.

Thanks.




Re: [gentoo-user] re: duplicated packages

2013-09-19 Thread Dale
Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
 On 09/19/2013 10:50 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 19/09/2013 20:58, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
 Howdy,

 Is having duplicate packages a good or a bad thing in gentoo? I'm clear
 about having duplicate packages for the kernel. I'm using the more
 recent one, but hanging on to the old one just in case.

 Perhaps, the reason for having duplicate packages is the fact that
 various packages I have installed on the system may require a different
 version of a package I may already have installed. Is that it?

 _box0=; equery list --duplicates '*'
  * Searching for * ...
 [IP-] [  ] app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.1.2-r6:4.1.2
 [IP-] [  ] app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.4-r2:4.4
 [IP-] [  ] dev-lang/python-2.7.5-r2:2.7
 [IP-] [  ] dev-lang/python-3.2.5-r2:3.2
 [IP-] [  ] dev-libs/openssl-0.9.8y:0.9.8
 [IP-] [  ] dev-libs/openssl-1.0.1e-r1:0
 [IP-] [  ] media-libs/lcms-1.19:0
 [IP-] [  ] media-libs/lcms-2.3:2
 [IP-] [  ] sys-devel/autoconf-2.13:2.1
 [IP-] [  ] sys-devel/autoconf-2.69:2.5
 [IP-] [  ] sys-devel/automake-1.10.3:1.10
 [IP-] [  ] sys-devel/automake-1.12.6:1.12
 [IP-] [  ] sys-devel/automake-1.13.4:1.13
 [IP-] [M ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.8.13:3.8.13
 [IP-] [  ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.10.7:3.10.7
 [IP-] [  ] virtual/libusb-0:0
 [IP-] [  ] virtual/libusb-1:1
 [IP-] [  ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.17:2
 [IP-] [  ] x11-libs/gtk+-3.4.4:3
 [IP-] [  ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r200:0
 [IP-] [  ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r300:3
 _
 Thanks.


 They are not duplicates they are called SLOTS

 And you have them for a reason - one thing needs package A version X,
 something else needs package A version Y. Usually, you can have only
 one, SLOTS let you have more than one that can co-exist.

 Don't worry about them, let them be. You need them.



 No worries.

 Thanks.




As a example, if you were to remove python2.7, its been nice knowing
you.  lol  There is no telling what all that would break and that is
just one package.  I get a shiver up my spine just thinking about it. 
It's always good to ask about this sort of thing.  The 20/20 rear view
mirror view can bite.  ;-) 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

-- 
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how 
you interpreted my words!