[gentoo-user] reiser4 Vs reiserfs for / on new Gentoo isntallation

2010-02-21 Thread Mick
I know that some of you have been using reiser4 for some years now.
How does it compare in performance and reliability in terms to
reiserfs and xfs?

A few years ago I remember there were problems compiling or running
some applications/libraries on reiser4 - are these problems now over?
Any gotchas?

-- 
Regards,
Mick



Re: [gentoo-user] reiser4 Vs reiserfs for / on new Gentoo isntallation

2010-02-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 21 Februar 2010, Mick wrote:
 I know that some of you have been using reiser4 for some years now.
 How does it compare in performance and reliability in terms to
 reiserfs and xfs?
 
they don't even come close in performance. XFS sucks with files who are not 
multi megabyte in size.

 A few years ago I remember there were problems compiling or running
 some applications/libraries on reiser4 - are these problems now over?
 Any gotchas?

a lng time ago there was a bug when compiling kde and without compression. 
Fixed shortly afterwards, never had a problem again.




Re: [gentoo-user] reiser4 Vs reiserfs for / on new Gentoo isntallation

2010-02-21 Thread Mick
On 21 February 2010 14:03, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On Sonntag 21 Februar 2010, Mick wrote:
 I know that some of you have been using reiser4 for some years now.
 How does it compare in performance and reliability in terms to
 reiserfs and xfs?

 they don't even come close in performance. XFS sucks with files who are not
 multi megabyte in size.

 A few years ago I remember there were problems compiling or running
 some applications/libraries on reiser4 - are these problems now over?
 Any gotchas?

 a lng time ago there was a bug when compiling kde and without compression.
 Fixed shortly afterwards, never had a problem again.

Thanks Volker for a prompt reply.  Is reiser4 still being developed,
or is Linux now moving towards ext4?

Some googling has shown me that reiser4 gives better performance than
ext4, although not across the board.
-- 
Regards,
Mick



Re: [gentoo-user] reiser4 Vs reiserfs for / on new Gentoo isntallation

2010-02-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 21 Februar 2010, Mick wrote:
 On 21 February 2010 14:03, Volker Armin Hemmann
 
 volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
  On Sonntag 21 Februar 2010, Mick wrote:
  I know that some of you have been using reiser4 for some years now.
  How does it compare in performance and reliability in terms to
  reiserfs and xfs?
  
  they don't even come close in performance. XFS sucks with files who are
  not multi megabyte in size.
  
  A few years ago I remember there were problems compiling or running
  some applications/libraries on reiser4 - are these problems now over?
  Any gotchas?
  
  a lng time ago there was a bug when compiling kde and without
  compression. Fixed shortly afterwards, never had a problem again.
 
 Thanks Volker for a prompt reply.  Is reiser4 still being developed,
 or is Linux now moving towards ext4?

linux is moving toward btrfs. ext4 is just a stop gap measure. One that is 
only a good alternative if you don't care about your data.

btw, the one point that kept resier4 out was 'layer violations'. 
Interesstingly btrfs is nothing but a huge 'violation' ...

And yes, Edward is still working on it.




Re: [gentoo-user] reiser4 Vs reiserfs for / on new Gentoo isntallation

2010-02-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 21 February 2010 16:16:51 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Sonntag 21 Februar 2010, Mick wrote:
  On 21 February 2010 14:03, Volker Armin Hemmann
  
  volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
   On Sonntag 21 Februar 2010, Mick wrote:
   I know that some of you have been using reiser4 for some years now.
   How does it compare in performance and reliability in terms to
   reiserfs and xfs?
   
   they don't even come close in performance. XFS sucks with files who are
   not multi megabyte in size.
   
   A few years ago I remember there were problems compiling or running
   some applications/libraries on reiser4 - are these problems now over?
   Any gotchas?
   
   a lng time ago there was a bug when compiling kde and without
   compression. Fixed shortly afterwards, never had a problem again.
  
  Thanks Volker for a prompt reply.  Is reiser4 still being developed,
  or is Linux now moving towards ext4?
 
 linux is moving toward btrfs. ext4 is just a stop gap measure. One that is
 only a good alternative if you don't care about your data.

I know what you meant, and I know what Mick meant, but the question is 
nonsensical.

In terms of filesystems, linux does not move anywhere. There are too many 
variables, too many options, too many scenarios to consider one fs the 
favoured one.

The correct question is Is this thing supported?. The answer is that btrfs, 
reiser4 and ext4fs are all supported.

The other question is Is this things at least somewhat stable? The answer is 
yes, except for ext4fs, for which I have yet to see a statement from it's devs 
that the on-disk format is not indeed frozen.



 
 btw, the one point that kept resier4 out was 'layer violations'.
 Interesstingly btrfs is nothing but a huge 'violation' ...
 
 And yes, Edward is still working on it.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] reiser4 Vs reiserfs for / on new Gentoo isntallation

2010-02-21 Thread Mick
On Sunday 21 February 2010 15:59:56 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Sunday 21 February 2010 16:16:51 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  On Sonntag 21 Februar 2010, Mick wrote:
   On 21 February 2010 14:03, Volker Armin Hemmann
  
   volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Sonntag 21 Februar 2010, Mick wrote:
I know that some of you have been using reiser4 for some years now.
How does it compare in performance and reliability in terms to
reiserfs and xfs?
   
they don't even come close in performance. XFS sucks with files who
are not multi megabyte in size.
   
A few years ago I remember there were problems compiling or running
some applications/libraries on reiser4 - are these problems now
over? Any gotchas?
   
a lng time ago there was a bug when compiling kde and without
compression. Fixed shortly afterwards, never had a problem again.
  
   Thanks Volker for a prompt reply.  Is reiser4 still being developed,
   or is Linux now moving towards ext4?
 
  linux is moving toward btrfs. ext4 is just a stop gap measure. One that
  is only a good alternative if you don't care about your data.
 
 I know what you meant, and I know what Mick meant, but the question is
 nonsensical.
 
 In terms of filesystems, linux does not move anywhere. There are too many
 variables, too many options, too many scenarios to consider one fs the
 favoured one.
 
 The correct question is Is this thing supported?. The answer is that
  btrfs, reiser4 and ext4fs are all supported.

I think that on this occasion (new laptop) I will try reiser4 and wave goodbye 
to reiserfs for now.

-- 
Regards,
Mick