Re: [gentoo-user] ssmtp - what wants to install it?
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:31:21 -0700, Zac Medico wrote: Yep, that's probably it. I ran into this a while back. Unfortunately equery is unreasonably slow with such queries. The fastest way I've found: find /var/db/pkg -path '*DEPEND' | xargs grep virtual/mta qpkg is orders of magnitude faster than equery. It may be deprecated but it works. -- Neil Bothwick You summoned me, Captain?! said Earl Grey, hotly. pgpuIDZNUoYVz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ssmtp - what wants to install it?
Neil Bothwick wrote: Zac Medico wrote: Yep, that's probably it. I ran into this a while back. Unfortunately equery is unreasonably slow with such queries. The fastest way I've found: find /var/db/pkg -path '*DEPEND' | xargs grep virtual/mta qpkg is orders of magnitude faster than equery. It may be deprecated but it works. Thanks for the tip. I thought qpkg was gone but then I found it hidden along with etcat. Qpkg definitely is much faster but it doesn't seem to work for a virtual depend. Even with equery, I needed to specify virtual/mta rather than mail-mta/ssmtp in order to get results. It seems that our portage query tools need some work. :-( Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] ssmtp - what wants to install it?
Trying to remove any MTAs from my system, so I did an emerge -C ssmtp, which unmerged it just fine. But, doing a emerge -DNtpvu world returns: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ sudo emerge -DNtpvu world These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [nomerge ] x11-terms/xterm-200-r3 -Xaw3d -debug -toolbar +truetype +unicode [nomerge ] sys-apps/utempter-0.5.5.5-r1 -debug [ebuild N] mail-mta/ssmtp-2.61 +ipv6 -mailwrapper -md5sum +ssl 0 kB Total size of downloads: 0 kB [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ I assume either xterm or utempter is requiring ssmtp, but I don't understand why. Any ideas? -- - Mark Shields -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssmtp - what wants to install it?
I assume either xterm or utempter is requiring ssmtp, but I don't understand why. Any ideas? Looking at the ebuilds themselves, neither ebuild has a dependency upon ssmtp or an other mta. Matt -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] ssmtp - what wants to install it?
Trying to remove any MTAs from my system... Normal unix OS's require an MTA to be defined. Portage has virtual mta placeholders that define the MTA that is installed on the system (i.e. I'm using postfix). If you don't have an MTA installed (which you don't), portage knows that the MTA is missing and wants to install ssmtp as the default mta. The question I have is why would you want to remove all MTAs? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssmtp - what wants to install it?
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005, Mark Shields wrote: Trying to remove any MTAs from my system, so I did an emerge -C ssmtp, which unmerged it just fine. Its a virtual dependency. ssmtp is not really an MTA, but a wrapper for a script that emulates sendmail. Its harmless and uses very little space so you should keep it (besides, you might need it if you want output from cron scripts emailed to you). -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssmtp - what wants to install it?
A. Khattri, Ah yes, I remember reading it's not a full-fledged MTA. I was just curious as to why it was trying to install. And to answer the first reply's question: The question I have is why would you want to remove all MTAs?. Why have something on your system when you don't use it? This is a personal server; I have ssh setup, I check the log files myself. On 6/13/05, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 13 Jun 2005, Mark Shields wrote: Trying to remove any MTAs from my system, so I did an emerge -C ssmtp, which unmerged it just fine. Its a virtual dependency. ssmtp is not really an MTA, but a wrapper for a script that emulates sendmail. Its harmless and uses very little space so you should keep it (besides, you might need it if you want output from cron scripts emailed to you). -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- - Mark Shields -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssmtp - what wants to install it?
My reason, Disk space is too cheap to waste time keeping a small tiny place-holder MTA inactive... The fact you and others have emailed about this has already not been worth the cost in disk space... ;) On Mon, 13 Jun 2005, Mark Shields wrote: A. Khattri, Ah yes, I remember reading it's not a full-fledged MTA. I was just curious as to why it was trying to install. And to answer the first reply's question: The question I have is why would you want to remove all MTAs?. Why have something on your system when you don't use it? This is a personal server; I have ssh setup, I check the log files myself. On 6/13/05, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 13 Jun 2005, Mark Shields wrote: Trying to remove any MTAs from my system, so I did an emerge -C ssmtp, which unmerged it just fine. Its a virtual dependency. ssmtp is not really an MTA, but a wrapper for a script that emulates sendmail. Its harmless and uses very little space so you should keep it (besides, you might need it if you want output from cron scripts emailed to you). -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Bryan Whitehead Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssmtp - what wants to install it?
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:17:11 -0400, Mark Shields wrote: Ah yes, I remember reading it's not a full-fledged MTA. I was just curious as to why it was trying to install. And to answer the first reply's question: The question I have is why would you want to remove all MTAs?. Why have something on your system when you don't use it? This is a personal server; I have ssh setup, I check the log files myself. Do you have a cron daemon installed? They all require an MTA. -- Neil Bothwick In 1750 Issac Newton became discouraged when he fell up a flight of stairs. pgpFEiL6yDNpn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ssmtp - what wants to install it?
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:17:11 -0400, Mark Shields wrote: Ah yes, I remember reading it's not a full-fledged MTA. I was just curious as to why it was trying to install. And to answer the first reply's question: The question I have is why would you want to remove all MTAs?. Why have something on your system when you don't use it? This is a personal server; I have ssh setup, I check the log files myself. Do you have a cron daemon installed? They all require an MTA. Yep, that's probably it. I ran into this a while back. Unfortunately equery is unreasonably slow with such queries. The fastest way I've found: find /var/db/pkg -path '*DEPEND' | xargs grep virtual/mta Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssmtp - what wants to install it?
Yeah, that's what it is. On 6/13/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:17:11 -0400, Mark Shields wrote: Ah yes, I remember reading it's not a full-fledged MTA. I was just curious as to why it was trying to install. And to answer the first reply's question: The question I have is why would you want to remove all MTAs?. Why have something on your system when you don't use it? This is a personal server; I have ssh setup, I check the log files myself. Do you have a cron daemon installed? They all require an MTA. -- Neil Bothwick In 1750 Issac Newton became discouraged when he fell up a flight of stairs. -- - Mark Shields -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
