Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)
Alan wrote: I don't have an ipod so I have no experience, but there is a 3rd party firmware hack that replaces the ipod firmware and supports flac/ogg/etc and adds nifty things. http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net :D -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 19:48:37 -0400 "Samuel Baldwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone know if iRiver's support ogg? I use that exclusively and transcoding > everything to mp3 would not be pleasant. > My iFP-999 supports ogg. I use it on Linux - Gentoo with ifp-manager (which is not in Portage) and it works fine. Plug it into the aux jacks in my truck to listen to something other than the radio. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)
On 6/16/06, Allan Gottlieb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What players would you recommend. My needs are modest, a few hours of MP3s would be enough. My primary goal is to listen to "the teaching company" lectures. What I would recommend is any of iRiver's current flash based models. Almost all of them have upgradeable firmware that can disable drm, turn them into a usb mass storage device, and add ogg vorbis support. They're really nice linux companions :) Check iRiver's website to make sure the one you get has a "umd" firmware available, if it does, you're on your way. (I just happen to have a rather old 128mb iriver flash player, works great. can even record 64kbit mp3 off a stereo line in, and holds ~2.5 hours of -q3 vorbis) -- Calvin Walton -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)
On 16:38 Fri 16 Jun , Alan wrote: > On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 01:04:37AM +0200, Christoph Eckert wrote: > > > > > Both banshee and rhythmbox support mostly or will soon support fully > > > the ipod :) > > > > Apple hard and software players don't support ogg vorbis, > > and that's why Apple simply sucks. Sorry, I'm usually not a guy of harsh > > words, but take care about teh file formats you use. Will you be able > > to playback your music bought in the Apple shop if they decide to > > discontinue their audio hard- and software? > > I don't have an ipod so I have no experience, but there is a 3rd party > firmware hack that replaces the ipod firmware and supports flac/ogg/etc > and adds nifty things. Depending on which ipod generation, they're two great options: - Rockbox. Open source firmware: allows you to play many file formats (flac, ogg, mp3...), play doom, gameboy games... etc. You can add songs just with "cp", there's no need to go thru libgpod (of course you can do it so, to be able to keep on using apple firmware... on rockbox, just use the tagcache feature). That's what I'm using with my 5G. I find the GUI much more attractive and informative (especially using pjulius builds and wps: various patches including audioscrobbler support, album art...). There's no video playback. - IpodLinux. The aim is to be able to run an open source operating system on the device. With both you keep the apple firmware and can choose firmwares with a bootloader. http://www.ipodlinux.org http://www.rockbox.org http://forums.rockbox.org cheers P.S.: Sorry, my english sucks a lot... > That said, everything I have is mp3 or flac transcoded to mp3 for > playback on my crappy old rio cali :) > > -- > Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://arcterex.net > -- A ouvir (mpd): Franz Liszt - Litanies de Marie (first version), S171e (1846\\7) - GPG KeyID:0x9D2FD6C8 pgpTx3DTJa2YC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)
> My H340 supports ogg. It also works with Linux and OSX :)Thanks-- Samuel (shardz)Registered Linux User #410639 amarok.kde.orgusmc.mil
Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)
> Anyone know if iRiver's support ogg? My H340 supports ogg. It also works with Linux and OSX :) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)
As the OP, let me thank all the responders for the helpful comments/suggestions. allan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)
> Anyone know if iRiver's support ogg? depends on the actual device and firmware. For example, there was a firmware update for the iHP-100. Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)
> I don't have an ipod so I have no experience, but there is a 3rd > party firmware hack that replaces the ipod firmware and supports > flac/ogg/etc and adds nifty things. interesting. I'm not computer scientist, but doesn't this depend on the hardware chip in the device? Decoding ogg or even mp3 in software eats CPU and therefor battery life. > That said, everything I have is mp3 or flac transcoded to mp3 for > playback on my crappy old rio cali :) The reason I like ogg is not only that I have some free music and ripped CDs in ogg on my hard drive. My preferred broadcasting used real streams in the past, but meanwhile they have switched to ogg stream. If I record it for later "consumption", I couldn't play it back with iTunes or one of the Apple hardware players. I often use flac to save recordings losslessly (I'm a hobby musician), but later on I convert it to ogg to save disc space. Best regards, ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)
I'm positive that AmaroK supports iPod's fully.I am, myself, (sounds a little redundant doesn't it?) getting an iRiver soon, and not sure if any media players will support that...Anyone know if iRiver's support ogg? I use that exclusively and transcoding everything to mp3 would not be pleasant. -- Samuel (shardz)Registered Linux User #410639amarok.kde.orgusmc.mil
Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)
On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 01:04:37AM +0200, Christoph Eckert wrote: > > > Both banshee and rhythmbox support mostly or will soon support fully > > the ipod :) > > Apple hard and software players don't support ogg vorbis, > and that's why Apple simply sucks. Sorry, I'm usually not a guy of harsh > words, but take care about teh file formats you use. Will you be able > to playback your music bought in the Apple shop if they decide to > discontinue their audio hard- and software? I don't have an ipod so I have no experience, but there is a 3rd party firmware hack that replaces the ipod firmware and supports flac/ogg/etc and adds nifty things. That said, everything I have is mp3 or flac transcoded to mp3 for playback on my crappy old rio cali :) -- Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://arcterex.net "Backups are for people who don't pray." -- big Mike -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)
> Both banshee and rhythmbox support mostly or will soon support fully > the ipod :) Apple hard and software players don't support ogg vorbis, and that's why Apple simply sucks. Sorry, I'm usually not a guy of harsh words, but take care about teh file formats you use. Will you be able to playback your music bought in the Apple shop if they decide to discontinue their audio hard- and software? Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)
On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 04:51:31PM -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > At Fri, 16 Jun 2006 22:28:19 + "b.n." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Allan Gottlieb wrote: > >> Although I can reboot my laptop into windows (very useful for getting > >> dell service), I would probably stick to CDs if transferring MP3 to > >> the device requires windows. > > > > I think any pendrive-like mp3 player doesn't require windows. It just > > behaves as a flash USB pendrive, but plays audio files that are in it. > > Mine works perfectly :) . > > So the typical 1/4-1 gig or so flash mp3 players (e.g. creative's zen > nano plus) will all work? Could I ask what model you have? > > > Also if you stick with an ipod, there should be linux sw able to > > interface with it (gtkpod I guess). > > I prefer your first option. Both banshee and rhythmbox support mostly or will soon support fully the ipod :) alan -- Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://arcterex.net "Backups are for people who don't pray." -- big Mike -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)
> What players would you recommend. My needs are modest, a few hours > of MP3s would be enough. My primary goal is to listen to "the > teaching company" lectures. most devices which have as a requirement Mac OS 8.6 or better simoky behave as a USB mass storage and therefore can be mounted on Linux. If you read "Driver for Win 98 included" or "...downloadable from web page", you can be 99% sure it is class compliant. As you are on Linux, I'd like to recommend a device which also supports ogg, like some Samsung and TrekStor devices do. I also enjoy to have an FM receiver built in. Foldernavigation is a plus. I just purchased an TrekStor iBeat organix FM @ 1GB. It's not a cheap device, but I took my notebook to the store, mounted it, copied an ogg and it worked, so the decicion was made. And I was sure that the day will arrive when I want to use it to port an ISO image of 800MB, so avoid 512MB devices :) . Best regards, ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)
At Fri, 16 Jun 2006 23:20:01 + "b.n." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyway, since you want to interface it with your portable, why don't you > bring your portable in the shop and ask to try it with your portable? A great idea. I will ask that they let me open the box and try it. allan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)
> So the typical 1/4-1 gig or so flash mp3 players (e.g. creative's zen > nano plus) will all work? Could I ask what model you have? I don't even remember, it is a cheap 256-mb mp3 player my collegues gave me for my degree a couple of years ago. Now it's in my lab, so I can't tell you. Anyway, since you want to interface it with your portable, why don't you bring your portable in the shop and ask to try it with your portable? m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)
At Fri, 16 Jun 2006 22:28:19 + "b.n." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Allan Gottlieb wrote: >> Although I can reboot my laptop into windows (very useful for getting >> dell service), I would probably stick to CDs if transferring MP3 to >> the device requires windows. > > I think any pendrive-like mp3 player doesn't require windows. It just > behaves as a flash USB pendrive, but plays audio files that are in it. > Mine works perfectly :) . So the typical 1/4-1 gig or so flash mp3 players (e.g. creative's zen nano plus) will all work? Could I ask what model you have? > Also if you stick with an ipod, there should be linux sw able to > interface with it (gtkpod I guess). I prefer your first option. thanks, allan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)
Allan Gottlieb wrote: > Although I can reboot my laptop into windows (very useful for getting > dell service), I would probably stick to CDs if transferring MP3 to > the device requires windows. I think any pendrive-like mp3 player doesn't require windows. It just behaves as a flash USB pendrive, but plays audio files that are in it. Mine works perfectly :) . Also if you stick with an ipod, there should be linux sw able to interface with it (gtkpod I guess). m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)
My kids have finally convinced me that instead of burning CDs to play in the car I should get a portable MP3 player (and use my existing "adapter" that plugs into the headphone and presents a cassette tape to the car's audio system). What players would you recommend. My needs are modest, a few hours of MP3s would be enough. My primary goal is to listen to "the teaching company" lectures. Although I can reboot my laptop into windows (very useful for getting dell service), I would probably stick to CDs if transferring MP3 to the device requires windows. thanks, allan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
