Re: [gentoo-user] system freeze

2010-01-26 Thread Willie Wong
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 08:09:27PM +0200, Yoav Luft wrote:
> ok, it happened in X, and happened several times. I suspect it happens
> only when the screen is supposed to go to standby, but it's only
> suspicion, not a fact. I've changed the kernel settings lately,
> without installing the new kernel yet, and I'm about to do that now,
> with magic SysReq, just in case.
> I'm not sure if the system is really ideal, or just that application
> are unresponsive.
> While writing this mail I've managed to recreate the symptoms by
> pressing ctrl+alt+F1. I have an intel video card, and remember having
> some problems with it.
> 
> What log should I check? I never tried to track down this kind of
> error in the past.

kernel log, maybe. (If you use metalog, the default should be under
/var/log/kernel/) X log (/var/log/Xorg.?.log)

If your computer has sshd open, you can try to ssh-in from another
computer. If you can get in, at least you don't have a full-blown
kernel panic. 

What kernel settings did you tweak? Installed a new kernel maybe? 
Which kernel version?
With an intel video card, are you using kernel mode setting?
Do you have a "previous" kernel where everything is working? If so,
what are the diffs between the configs? [Yes, a situation like this is
why it is nice to either save your kernel configs or save the old
bzimage with /proc/config.gz enabled.] 

Cheers, 

W 
-- 
Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire 
 et vice versa   ~~~  I. Newton



Re: [gentoo-user] system freeze

2010-01-26 Thread Yoav Luft
ok, it happened in X, and happened several times. I suspect it happens
only when the screen is supposed to go to standby, but it's only
suspicion, not a fact. I've changed the kernel settings lately,
without installing the new kernel yet, and I'm about to do that now,
with magic SysReq, just in case.
I'm not sure if the system is really ideal, or just that application
are unresponsive.
While writing this mail I've managed to recreate the symptoms by
pressing ctrl+alt+F1. I have an intel video card, and remember having
some problems with it.

What log should I check? I never tried to track down this kind of
error in the past.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Willie Wong  wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 03:40:39PM +0200, Yoav Luft wrote:
>> Hello,
>> My system just froze, dead unresponsive, with the screen on, after
>> several minutes of being idle. How can I gather more information about
>> it? Is there someplace to look for clues as to what made it freeze?
>
> What was it running at the time? (Was it *truly* idle or was it just
> not running userspace applications?)
>
> Was this in X or on the command line? It it was in X, have you tried
> the Magic SysReq Keys (provided that you have that compiled into the
> kernel; there have been many threads on this mailing list with more
> details, you can search for it)?
>
> If you reboot, is there anything suspicious in /var/log?
>
> Is this recurring, or has it only happened this one time?
>
> Have you performed any software/firmware/hardware updates recently?
>
> These are just some of the questions that immediately pop into my
> head. If you provide more information, I'm sure the list can help you
> sort this out.
>
> Cheers,
>
> W
> --
> Willie W. Wong                                     ww...@math.princeton.edu
> 408 Fine Hall,  Department of Mathematics, Princeton University,  Princeton
> Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire
>         et vice versa   ~~~  I. Newton
>
>



Re: [gentoo-user] system freeze

2010-01-26 Thread Willie Wong
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 03:40:39PM +0200, Yoav Luft wrote:
> Hello,
> My system just froze, dead unresponsive, with the screen on, after
> several minutes of being idle. How can I gather more information about
> it? Is there someplace to look for clues as to what made it freeze?

What was it running at the time? (Was it *truly* idle or was it just
not running userspace applications?)

Was this in X or on the command line? It it was in X, have you tried
the Magic SysReq Keys (provided that you have that compiled into the
kernel; there have been many threads on this mailing list with more
details, you can search for it)?

If you reboot, is there anything suspicious in /var/log?

Is this recurring, or has it only happened this one time?

Have you performed any software/firmware/hardware updates recently?

These are just some of the questions that immediately pop into my
head. If you provide more information, I'm sure the list can help you
sort this out. 

Cheers, 

W
-- 
Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu
408 Fine Hall,  Department of Mathematics, Princeton University,  Princeton
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire 
 et vice versa   ~~~  I. Newton



Re: [gentoo-user] system freeze

2010-01-26 Thread wins mallow
On Tue, 2010-01-26 at 15:40 +0200, Yoav Luft wrote:
> Hello,
> My system just froze, dead unresponsive, with the screen on, after
> several minutes of being idle. How can I gather more information about
> it? Is there someplace to look for clues as to what made it freeze?
> 
1. check your hw with memtest, livecd, etc
2. set default values at cmos
3. check system log




[gentoo-user] system freeze

2010-01-26 Thread Yoav Luft
Hello,
My system just froze, dead unresponsive, with the screen on, after
several minutes of being idle. How can I gather more information about
it? Is there someplace to look for clues as to what made it freeze?