Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
audacious is a good one! how come? How come nobody mentioned mpd? now that's lite and it has all one could want(based on it's clients): command line interface, gtk, qt u name it as for functionality as well pick a client based on what u want, now mpd with sonata as client consumes less resources(not by far) than xmms did; also sonata worked out of the box with my multimedia keys Yai, well, mpd is awesome but I started to have problems with non ASCII chars on filename like Múm [1]...they does not index and I dont have any clue.. but anyway I did not tried to investigate a little more about that.. Audacious is a good XMMS replacement which seems to need more development and more users/bug reports.. and it just works. :) [1] http://www.last.fm/music/m%C3%BAm?q=m%C3%BAm -- Octavio Ruiz Cervera Neocenter, SA. de CV. http://www.neocenter.com/ Soluciones para Centros de Contacto y Telefonía IP Tel.: (+52 55) 8590-9000 Ext. 9016 Cel.: (+55 55) 5514-087790 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
audacious is a good one!how come? How come nobody mentioned mpd? now that's lite and it has all one could want(based on it's clients): command line interface, gtk, qt u name it as for functionality as well pick a client based on what u want, now mpd with sonata as client consumes less resources(not by far) than xmms did; also sonata worked out of the box with my multimedia keys
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On 11/7/06, ionut cristian cucu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: audacious is a good one! how come? How come nobody mentioned mpd? now that's lite and it has all one could want(based on it's clients): command line interface, gtk, qt u name it as for functionality as well pick a client based on what u want, now mpd with sonata as client consumes less resources(not by far) than xmms did; also sonata worked out of the box with my multimedia keys I, at least, don't have much experience with it. Audacious was mentioned a lot because its interface is very similar to XMMS's, and it seems to accept a lot of the same skins and plug-ins. For people explicitly looking for a replacement for XMMS because it's been dropped from Portage, it seems to be the best choice. -- Bira http://compexplicita.blogspot.com http://sinfoniaferida.blogspot.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
Dotan Cohen wrote: On 23/10/06, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:08:08 -0400 Dave V wrote: Hello, Hi, I just read on the gentoo-dev list that xmms is about to be removed, but it's probably the only sound player that I've used. Could someone recommend a good alternative. I'm rather surprised that no one wanted to maintain the packages. you should, not should, you MUST use Amarok :-) Cheers! I second that. My search for the ultimate music player has stopped with Amarok. Absolutely brilliant. Name a feature- lyrics? wikipedia integration? It's got it. Dotan Cohen http://rorot.com http://what-is-what.com/what_is/linux.html Hi, I'm new to the list but have been lurking for a while... so forgive the slightly long post (bits of 'background' included to put things in context) I tried to get on with Amarok - I tried on my Ubuntu install before I discovered Gentoo... thought I'd be bound to get it working with Gentoo but couldn't... and tried Rhythmbox in desperation to have something play music. From what I've seen of Amarok, I'd love it, but I every time I've installed it I've run into the same problems: All our music (about 80 Gb, I think, mainly (but not all) OGG files) is stored on a server, accessed on a mounted Samba share. The share would mount correctly - and I tried mounting it with a variety of permissions set - but I couldn't get Amarok to 'read' the music collection successfully. I read various man/wiki/help pages which were supposed to get it working but I couldn't - and when Amarok bombed out it would take the system with it - things would lock up and I ended up have to reboot (!) and/or have major problems getting sound to work at all (it seemed to come and go, almost without reason). I'm a relative newbie with linux and have only had my gentoo install up and running for about a month now... but I have managed to get most other things sorted by *lots* of reading/Googling. I started off with kde, removed that (despite really giving KDE a really good go, I still wanted to go back to my Gnome comfort zone!) and installed gnome-light, unmasked the ~x86 packages that gnome-light pulled in and upgraded them... and sound works at last. And Rhythmbox works - but I don't like it (never have). I had xmms on my Ubuntu install... and had emerged it (now unmerged) to use with Gentoo... and would love to have a simple, working Amarok... but I haven't got my bravery together to embark on trying again! I can't help thinking the problem lies with my (lack of) understanding of samba - our Squeezebox serves up the music from the samba share beautifully - so I'm not sure what I'm getting wrong in how I mount the share (mounting exactly the same way is fine for Rhythmbox) for Amarok to read. Maybe I'll have another go one day soon! If anyone has any hot tips or pointers that might help, I'd be grateful - I think I'll tear all my hair out if I try to emerge it again and end up with big problems with my system (I so want to avoid a problem that I'll be doing a full system backup before I have a go). I wouldn't vote for rhythmbox. I might try audacious instead. But I'd really like a working amarok! Sarah -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I had my music collection mounted over nfs and I ran into a similar problem: amarok wouldn't be able to read the entire thing and the nfs shares would stop working. The problem turned out to be that amarok keeps all these files /open/ and the remote share runs out of resources. I'm using audacious now without problems. - --Myk Sarah wrote: All our music (about 80 Gb, I think, mainly (but not all) OGG files) is stored on a server, accessed on a mounted Samba share. The share would mount correctly - and I tried mounting it with a variety of permissions set - but I couldn't get Amarok to 'read' the music collection successfully. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFQwi7BOPsJyAQkeARAu+NAJ99BK6kVPvBk0iMYrwKpoeEQD/R+QCfc75B ZcX9RL9HDtvHRjoQ72BI9JI= =YJlw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
Myk Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The problem turned out to be that amarok keeps all these files /open/ and the remote share runs out of resources. I'm using audacious now without problems. Are you sure that Amarok keeps the files open? This would break even on a local filesystem. I am currently listening to music via Amarok and lsof shows only 1 audio file open - the one it is playing. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
audacious is a good one! 2006/10/23, Dave V [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, I just read on the gentoo-dev list that xmms is about to be removed, but it's probably the only sound player that I've used. Could someone recommend a good alternative. I'm rather surprised that no one wanted to maintain the packages. Dave -- He wasn't strictly aware of it, but he treated even geography as if he was investigating a crime (did you see who carved out the valley? Would you recognize that glacier if you saw it again?) -- (Terry Pratchett, The Fifth Elephant) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- wcw -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006, Walter Dnes wrote: f) it has no good alternative :-( it has. amarok, alsaplayer, xine [m3000][root][~] emerge --ask alsaplayer These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy alsaplayer. OK guys, where is alsaplayer hiding? xine == almost as bloated as Windows Media Player. I want a simple *AUDIO PLAYER* dammit, not some honking big multi-media package that takes forever to build. I've had problems building xine, and swear by mplayer. I'd sooner use mplayer than xine. amarok == Even worse than xine. It's a Windows Media Player wannabee bloated frontend that ends up launching xine. In addition to building xinelib, it also builds kde-base, ruby, and a bunch of other junk. I think you want audacious, which seems to be xmms painted white and actively maintained. -Daniel *This .sig left intentionally blank* -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On Friday 27 October 2006 07:03, Mark Knecht wrote: It hasn't been supported for a long time. That said there is a new maintainer who just took it over last week so don't give up totally on alsaplayer. It was good for its day. it was great for testing dmix and hardware mixing - having 8 instances of alsaplayer playing the same song with ca 10 seconds difference.. without skips... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
Daniel Barkalow wrote: xine == almost as bloated as Windows Media Player. I want a simple *AUDIO PLAYER* dammit, not some honking big multi-media package that takes forever to build. I've had problems building xine, and swear by mplayer. I'd sooner use mplayer than xine. amarok == Even worse than xine. It's a Windows Media Player wannabee bloated frontend that ends up launching xine. In addition to building xinelib, it also builds kde-base, ruby, and a bunch of other junk. I think you want audacious, which seems to be xmms painted white and actively maintained. I would second that. I have not tried xine, but dislike the size of amarok. Audacious builds quickly and plays mp3s - and thats all I need! Incidentally xmms and audacious both seem to sound cleaner than amarok too. Cheers Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On Fri, 2006-10-27 at 02:20 -0400, Daniel Barkalow wrote: On Fri, 27 Oct 2006, Walter Dnes wrote: f) it has no good alternative :-( it has. amarok, alsaplayer, xine [m3000][root][~] emerge --ask alsaplayer These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy alsaplayer. OK guys, where is alsaplayer hiding? xine == almost as bloated as Windows Media Player. I want a simple *AUDIO PLAYER* dammit, not some honking big multi-media package that takes forever to build. I've had problems building xine, and swear by mplayer. I'd sooner use mplayer than xine. amarok == Even worse than xine. It's a Windows Media Player wannabee bloated frontend that ends up launching xine. In addition to building xinelib, it also builds kde-base, ruby, and a bunch of other junk. I think you want audacious, which seems to be xmms painted white and actively maintained. -Daniel *This .sig left intentionally blank* I emerged audacious last night. I've been an xmms user since I started using Linux back in 2003, so I wanted something xmms-like. I like audacious except for one tiny detail; the GUI window is tiny and I can't seem to make it bigger. Whenever I click the area that made xmms bigger, it just tells me that DOUBLESIZE IS NOT SUPPORTED. Will it be in the future? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
Is Audacious able to pull in CD info from the Internet? I see know way to configure for that function. Thanks -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:25:02 -0400 sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Audacious able to pull in CD info from the Internet? I see know way to configure for that function. Preferences - Plugins - CD Audio Plugin - Preferences - CD Info Robert -- Robert Cernansky E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
f) it has no good alternative :-( it has. amarok, alsaplayer, xine [m3000][root][~] emerge --ask alsaplayer These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy alsaplayer. OK guys, where is alsaplayer hiding? xine == almost as bloated as Windows Media Player. I want a simple *AUDIO PLAYER* dammit, not some honking big multi-media package that takes forever to build. I've had problems building xine, and swear by mplayer. I'd sooner use mplayer than xine. amarok == Even worse than xine. It's a Windows Media Player wannabee bloated frontend that ends up launching xine. In addition to building xinelib, it also builds kde-base, ruby, and a bunch of other junk. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 My musings on technology and security at http://techsec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On Friday 27 October 2006 06:00, Walter Dnes wrote: f) it has no good alternative :-( it has. amarok, alsaplayer, xine [m3000][root][~] emerge --ask alsaplayer These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy alsaplayer. OK guys, where is alsaplayer hiding? seems it is gone too. Too bad. It was nice - could play mp3 forward AND backward... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On 10/26/06, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 27 October 2006 06:00, Walter Dnes wrote: f) it has no good alternative :-( it has. amarok, alsaplayer, xine [m3000][root][~] emerge --ask alsaplayer These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy alsaplayer. OK guys, where is alsaplayer hiding? seems it is gone too. Too bad. It was nice - could play mp3 forward AND backward... It hasn't been supported for a long time. That said there is a new maintainer who just took it over last week so don't give up totally on alsaplayer. It was good for its day. Again, I mentioned this before, but if your interest is file based playback - no CDs - no streaming media - then there is hardly anything better than Aqualung. It's in the proaudio overlay - both the release versions and a CVS ebuild also. - Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On Tuesday 24 October 2006 22:29, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Tuesday 24 October 2006 22:59, Willie Wong wrote: I have one question about xmms alternatives: xmms has this remote control feature that I use a lot (I have keys on my multimedia keyboard bound to remote controls and also certain voice commands bound to playing and stopping of music), can someone point me to an alternative of xmms that also supports remote controls? Thanks in advance, amarok I was able to control amarok with my mobile phone and bluetooth... Cool! Have you a HOWTO? -- Regards, Mick pgp089yXl3A0D.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On Wednesday 25 October 2006 13:49, Mick wrote: On Tuesday 24 October 2006 22:29, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Tuesday 24 October 2006 22:59, Willie Wong wrote: I have one question about xmms alternatives: xmms has this remote control feature that I use a lot (I have keys on my multimedia keyboard bound to remote controls and also certain voice commands bound to playing and stopping of music), can someone point me to an alternative of xmms that also supports remote controls? Thanks in advance, amarok I was able to control amarok with my mobile phone and bluetooth... Cool! Have you a HOWTO? There are AFAIK two apps, Bluemote and BlueAmarok out there, I have used both. But I think they have a fairly strong dependency on Sony Ericsson menu extensions. HTH -Robin. -- -- Robin Atwood, Bangkok, Thailand. tel/fax: +66 2252 1438 mobile: +66 8513 22487 -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On Wednesday 25 October 2006 08:49, Mick wrote: On Tuesday 24 October 2006 22:29, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Tuesday 24 October 2006 22:59, Willie Wong wrote: I have one question about xmms alternatives: xmms has this remote control feature that I use a lot (I have keys on my multimedia keyboard bound to remote controls and also certain voice commands bound to playing and stopping of music), can someone point me to an alternative of xmms that also supports remote controls? Thanks in advance, amarok I was able to control amarok with my mobile phone and bluetooth... Cool! Have you a HOWTO? not anymore - I have a razr v3i now - and its bluetooth implementation is pretty crippled compared to my old SE -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I recommend the use of the xine engine in amarok. There are no real plugins to speak of that you need, although I do have the following use flags: But it would be nice if Musicbrainz support was put back in. This was removed because of security problems with tunepimp-4, but Amarok now supports tunepimp-5 which addresses that. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:04:20 -0400, Daniel D Jones wrote: !!! Problem resolving dependencies for kde-base/kde-meta !!! Depgraph creation failed. This is after I unmerged kopete because it was the requiring dependency and I don't use it. Kopete is a dependency of kde-meta, unmerge it and emerge world will just try to pull it back in, along with its dependencies. You need to re-emerge Kopete after removing xmms from your USE flags. -- Neil Bothwick COBOL: Completely Obsolete Business Oriented Language signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On Tuesday 24 October 2006 11:59, Neil Bothwick wrote: You need to re-emerge Kopete after removing xmms from your USE flags. He doesn't need to remove it manually since the xmms use flag has been masked in the base profile. Just use --newuse... -- Bo Andresen pgp4mRdV6GiSr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:21:10 +0200, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: You need to re-emerge Kopete after removing xmms from your USE flags. He doesn't need to remove it manually since the xmms use flag has been masked in the base profile. Just use --newuse... You need to re-emerge Kopete after xmms has been removed from your USE flags :) -- Neil Bothwick ...Advert for restaurant: Exotic foods for all occasions. Police balls a speciality. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
I have one question about xmms alternatives: xmms has this remote control feature that I use a lot (I have keys on my multimedia keyboard bound to remote controls and also certain voice commands bound to playing and stopping of music), can someone point me to an alternative of xmms that also supports remote controls? Thanks in advance, W -- Willie W. Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 Fine Hall, Department of Mathematics, Princeton University, Princeton A mathematician's reputation rests on the number of bad proofs he has given. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On Tuesday 24 October 2006 22:59, Willie Wong wrote: I have one question about xmms alternatives: xmms has this remote control feature that I use a lot (I have keys on my multimedia keyboard bound to remote controls and also certain voice commands bound to playing and stopping of music), can someone point me to an alternative of xmms that also supports remote controls? Thanks in advance, amarok I was able to control amarok with my mobile phone and bluetooth... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006, Willie Wong wrote: I have one question about xmms alternatives: xmms has this remote control feature that I use a lot (I have keys on my multimedia keyboard bound to remote controls and also certain voice commands bound to playing and stopping of music), can someone point me to an alternative of xmms that also supports remote controls? It seems to me that audacious is functionally equivalent to xmms, down to having the same command-line controls. I'd try ln -s /usr/bin/audacious /usr/bin/xmms (after unmerging xmms and emerging audacious), and see if it all works. -Daniel *This .sig left intentionally blank* -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] xmms alternative
Hello, I just read on the gentoo-dev list that xmms is about to be removed, but it's probably the only sound player that I've used. Could someone recommend a good alternative. I'm rather surprised that no one wanted to maintain the packages. Dave -- He wasn't strictly aware of it, but he treated even geography as if he was investigating a crime (did you see who carved out the valley? Would you recognize that glacier if you saw it again?) -- (Terry Pratchett, The Fifth Elephant) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
Dave V skrev: Hello, I just read on the gentoo-dev list that xmms is about to be removed, but it's probably the only sound player that I've used. Could someone recommend a good alternative. I'm rather surprised that no one wanted to maintain the packages. Dave Well, you can always use VLC. Or perhaps Rhythmbox. I prefer VLC. -Kristian Poul Herkild -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
2006/10/23, Dave V [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, I just read on the gentoo-dev list that xmms is about to be removed, but it's probably the only sound player that I've used. Could someone recommend a good alternative. audacious is a bmpx fork which is a xmms fork you can try both I'm rather surprised that no one wanted to maintain the packages. what's the reason to maintain package for unmaintained software -- regards, Hegai Ilya -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:08:08 -0400 Dave V wrote: Hello, Hi, I just read on the gentoo-dev list that xmms is about to be removed, but it's probably the only sound player that I've used. Could someone recommend a good alternative. I'm rather surprised that no one wanted to maintain the packages. you should, not should, you MUST use Amarok :-) Cheers! -- Arnau Bria http://blog.emergetux.net Wiggum: Dispara a las ruedas Lou. Lou: eee, es un tanque jefe. Wiggum: Me tienes hartito con todas tus excusas. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On 10/23/06, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:08:08 -0400 Dave V wrote: Hello, Hi, I just read on the gentoo-dev list that xmms is about to be removed, but it's probably the only sound player that I've used. Could someone recommend a good alternative. I'm rather surprised that no one wanted to maintain the packages. you should, not should, you MUST use Amarok :-) Cheers! -- Arnau Bria http://blog.emergetux.net Wiggum: Dispara a las ruedas Lou. Lou: eee, es un tanque jefe. Wiggum: Me tienes hartito con todas tus excusas. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I've never been an xmms fan, the GUI has just never felt right, something about the app didn't suit my tastes. I've been use mpg123, mplayer and mpd depending on what I want. Though apparently we should be using amarok so I'll have to give that a whirl. -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign - against HTML Email, /\ vCards, and proprietary formats. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:10:42 -0700 Korthrun Korthrun wrote: I've never been an xmms fan, the GUI has just never felt right, something about the app didn't suit my tastes. I've been use mpg123, mplayer and mpd depending on what I want. Maybe Amarok will not fit you... If u don't like GUI, Amarok is not your program... Though apparently we should be using amarok so I'll have to give that a whirl. Well, I suppose you noticed my joking tone in message... Anyway, I don't know if you know last.fm (you could take a look), but Amarok's integration with that site is wonderful. You could (now could, not should neither must) try dynamic reproduction list, rating, taggin', etc... Cheers! -- Arnau Bria http://blog.emergetux.net Wiggum: Dispara a las ruedas Lou. Lou: eee, es un tanque jefe. Wiggum: Me tienes hartito con todas tus excusas. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On 23 October 2006 14:39, Kristian Poul Herkild wrote: Dave V skrev: Hello, I just read on the gentoo-dev list that xmms is about to be removed, but it's probably the only sound player that I've used. Could someone recommend a good alternative. If you are using KDE anyway, try amaroK and/or noatun. Uwe -- Mark Twain: I rather decline two drinks than a German adjective. http://www.SysEx.com.na -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On Monday 23 October 2006 16:27, Uwe Thiem wrote: On 23 October 2006 14:39, Kristian Poul Herkild wrote: Dave V skrev: Hello, I just read on the gentoo-dev list that xmms is about to be removed, but it's probably the only sound player that I've used. Could someone recommend a good alternative. If you are using KDE anyway, try amaroK and/or noatun. I found noatun heavy on resources compared to xmms and amarok requires more than a 17M sources download. Meanwhile, I noticed that xmms is now a blocker!? Why's that? = # emerge -upDv world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies - !!! Ebuilds for the following packages are either all !!! masked or don't exist: media-plugins/xmms-status-plugin media-plugins/xmms-stereo media-sound/xmms media-plugins/xmms-mpg123 media-plugins/xmms-cdaudio media-plugins/xmms-disk-writer media-plugins/xmms-wav media-plugins/xmms-mikmod ... done! [ebuild N] x11-apps/xwininfo-1.0.2 USE=-debug 89 kB [ebuild N] x11-apps/appres-1.0.0 USE=-debug 72 kB Total size of downloads: 162 kB = -- Regards, Mick pgpR0YroLUBkm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On Monday 23 October 2006 14:08, Dave V wrote: Hello, I just read on the gentoo-dev list that xmms is about to be removed, but it's probably the only sound player that I've used. Could someone recommend a good alternative. I'm rather surprised that no one wanted to maintain the packages. a) it is dead. For years b) it depends on a dead toolkit with godknowswhat security problems c) it becomes harder and harder to keep it alive d) the devs have better things to do than playing ICU for (almost) dead software. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:02:27 +0200 Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a) it is dead. For years b) it depends on a dead toolkit with godknowswhat security problems c) it becomes harder and harder to keep it alive d) the devs have better things to do than playing ICU for (almost) dead software. e) it works fine f) it has no good alternative :-( Robert -- Robert Cernansky E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On Monday 23 October 2006 19:33, Robert Cernansky wrote: e) it works fine f) it has no good alternative :-( g) noone prevents you from using it as long as it still works h) if you really want it in the tree feel free to maintain it (you'll find it's no longer maintainable...) -- Bo Andresen pgpJUPM9wMS82.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On Monday 23 October 2006 17:26, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Monday 23 October 2006 18:06, Mick wrote: Meanwhile, I noticed that xmms is now a blocker!? Why's that? Firstly it isn't a blocker! It's masked. In a month it will be removed (or rather it will probably be moved to an overlay. Secondly: http://groups.google.com/group/linux.gentoo.dev/browse_frm/thread/d55c71aff 656df3f/48bd9159e1e7a430 http://groups.google.com/group/linux.gentoo.dev/browse_frm/thread/30b772306 1b26455/4619b1237b697cea http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152472 Thanks Bo, I remember reading the first thread some time ago. I guess it's time to move on. Just emerge amarok and it looks great! Tried to play a stream and it fell apart: === Error Loading Media No suitable input plugin. This often means that the url's protocol is not supported. Network failures are other possible causes. http://live.str3am.com:2010/ === What now? Is there a list of amarok plugins that I need to emerge? -- Regards, Mick pgpXTmYOXW4IE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On Monday 23 October 2006 19:33, Robert Cernansky wrote: On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:02:27 +0200 Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a) it is dead. For years b) it depends on a dead toolkit with godknowswhat security problems c) it becomes harder and harder to keep it alive d) the devs have better things to do than playing ICU for (almost) dead software. e) it works fine 1.2.10-r16 -r16 does not sound like 'works fine', but 'lots and lots of work to keep it from falling apart'. f) it has no good alternative :-( it has. amarok, alsaplayer, xine -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
Maybe Amarok will not fit you... If u don't like GUI, Amarok is not your program... Though apparently we should be using amarok so I'll have to give that a whirl. Well, I suppose you noticed my joking tone in message... I was a diehard XMMS fan. Then I noticed news about its imminent death, and I sadly looked for alternatives. I once did *hate* players like amaroK, but in its latest version is a killer app. It just works, and works well. And simple features like instant search, wikipedia search and shuffling become rapidly interesting. The only downside is a small memory leak that becomes noticeable after a few days. I'd love an XMMS with amaroK features, or better an amaroK with a deep XMMS look-n-feel. Anyway, I don't know if you know last.fm (you could take a look), but Amarok's integration with that site is wonderful. You could (now could, not should neither must) try dynamic reproduction list, rating, taggin', etc... Never tried it. Thanks for the tip. m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
Arnau Bria wrote: On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:08:08 -0400 Dave V wrote: Hello, Hi, I just read on the gentoo-dev list that xmms is about to be removed, but it's probably the only sound player that I've used. Could someone recommend a good alternative. I'm rather surprised that no one wanted to maintain the packages. you should, not should, you MUST use Amarok :-) Cheers! I started using audacious, about the same. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On 10/23/06, david [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arnau Bria wrote: On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:08:08 -0400 Dave V wrote: Hello, Hi, I just read on the gentoo-dev list that xmms is about to be removed, but it's probably the only sound player that I've used. Could someone recommend a good alternative. I'm rather surprised that no one wanted to maintain the packages. you should, not should, you MUST use Amarok :-) Cheers! I started using audacious, about the same. Mostly Aqualung for me. - Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On 10/23/06, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you should, not should, you MUST use Amarok :-) amarok++ -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On 10/23/06, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Bo, I remember reading the first thread some time ago. I guess it's time to move on. Just emerge amarok and it looks great! Tried to play a stream and it fell apart: === Error Loading Media No suitable input plugin. This often means that the url's protocol is not supported. Network failures are other possible causes. http://live.str3am.com:2010/ === What now? Is there a list of amarok plugins that I need to emerge? Plays OK for me. Bring up the play list, click Add-Radio Stream, enter the URL. The right click on the new radio stream, and do Load. That should give you a from live.str3am.com/ in the play list, click on it and hit play. I recommend the use of the xine engine in amarok. There are no real plugins to speak of that you need, although I do have the following use flags: [ebuild R ] media-sound/amarok-1.4.3-r1 USE=kde visualization xinerama -aac -arts -debug -ifp -ipod -mysql -njb -noamazon -opengl -postgres -real (-xmms) LINGUAS=-az -bg -br -ca -cs -cy -da -de -el -en_GB -es -et -fi -fr -ga -gl -he -hi -hu -is -it -ja -ka -km -ko -lt -ms -nb -nl -nn -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -rw -sl -sr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -sv -ta -tg -th -tr -uk -uz -zh_CN -zh_TW 0 kB [ebuild R ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.2-r2 USE=X a52 aac alsa asf dts dvd flac gnome mng mp3 opengl samba sdl theora v4l vidix vorbis win32codecs xinerama xv xvmc -aalib (-altivec) -arts -debug -directfb -dxr3 -esd -fbcon -imagemagick -ipv6 -libcaca -modplug -nls -oss -speex -vcd VIDEO_CARDS=nvidia -i810 -via 22 kB HTH, -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On Monday 23 October 2006 21:59, Richard Fish wrote: Plays OK for me. Bring up the play list, click Add-Radio Stream, enter the URL. The right click on the new radio stream, and do Load. That should give you a from live.str3am.com/ in the play list, click on it and hit play. Thanks Richard. I think I have found a bug - or double-click doesn't always work as expected. It seems that this is coming up as an intermittent error. Anyway, assuming that I have now played this stream and I would like to add it to one of my Playlists, how do I do that? -- Regards, Mick pgpg5qHQSJmoS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On 10/23/06, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Richard. I think I have found a bug - or double-click doesn't always work as expected. It seems that this is coming up as an intermittent error. Anyway, assuming that I have now played this stream and I would like to add it to one of my Playlists, how do I do that? I just add them under Radio Streams in the playlist window. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On Monday 23 October 2006 14:03, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Monday 23 October 2006 19:33, Robert Cernansky wrote: e) it works fine f) it has no good alternative :-( g) noone prevents you from using it as long as it still works h) if you really want it in the tree feel free to maintain it (you'll find it's no longer maintainable...) i) It appears that it's still a dependency for a lot of other programs: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# emerge -uDvat world These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating world dependencies | !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy media-sound/xmms have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - media-sound/xmms-1.2.10-r16 (masked by: package.mask, ~x86 keyword) # Diego Pettenò [EMAIL PROTECTED] (23 Oct 2006) # Pending removal 23 November for multiple bugs # Use media-sound/audacious - media-sound/xmms-1.2.10-r14 (masked by: package.mask) - media-sound/xmms-1.2.10-r15 (masked by: package.mask) For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. (dependency required by kde-base/kicker-applets-3.5.2 [ebuild]) !!! Problem resolving dependencies for kde-base/kde-meta !!! Depgraph creation failed. This is after I unmerged kopete because it was the requiring dependency and I don't use it. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
Daniel D Jones wrote: On Monday 23 October 2006 14:03, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Monday 23 October 2006 19:33, Robert Cernansky wrote: e) it works fine f) it has no good alternative :-( g) noone prevents you from using it as long as it still works h) if you really want it in the tree feel free to maintain it (you'll find it's no longer maintainable...) i) It appears that it's still a dependency for a lot of other programs: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# emerge -uDvat world These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating world dependencies | !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy media-sound/xmms have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - media-sound/xmms-1.2.10-r16 (masked by: package.mask, ~x86 keyword) # Diego Pettenò [EMAIL PROTECTED] (23 Oct 2006) # Pending removal 23 November for multiple bugs # Use media-sound/audacious - media-sound/xmms-1.2.10-r14 (masked by: package.mask) - media-sound/xmms-1.2.10-r15 (masked by: package.mask) For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. (dependency required by kde-base/kicker-applets-3.5.2 [ebuild]) !!! Problem resolving dependencies for kde-base/kde-meta !!! Depgraph creation failed. This is after I unmerged kopete because it was the requiring dependency and I don't use it. Do you still have xmms in your USE line in make.conf? I had to remove mine, and replace with -xmms, when the error you have came up. Then I had to do a emerge -Nuv world to recompile a few packages that the change affected. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
From: Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:41:29 -0500 Daniel D Jones wrote: On Monday 23 October 2006 14:03, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Monday 23 October 2006 19:33, Robert Cernansky wrote: e) it works fine f) it has no good alternative :-( g) noone prevents you from using it as long as it still works h) if you really want it in the tree feel free to maintain it (you'll find it's no longer maintainable...) i) It appears that it's still a dependency for a lot of other programs: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# emerge -uDvat world These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating world dependencies | !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy media-sound/xmms have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - media-sound/xmms-1.2.10-r16 (masked by: package.mask, ~x86 keyword) # Diego Pettenò [EMAIL PROTECTED] (23 Oct 2006) # Pending removal 23 November for multiple bugs # Use media-sound/audacious - media-sound/xmms-1.2.10-r14 (masked by: package.mask) - media-sound/xmms-1.2.10-r15 (masked by: package.mask) For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. (dependency required by kde-base/kicker-applets-3.5.2 [ebuild]) !!! Problem resolving dependencies for kde-base/kde-meta !!! Depgraph creation failed. This is after I unmerged kopete because it was the requiring dependency and I don't use it. Do you still have xmms in your USE line in make.conf? I had to remove mine, and replace with -xmms, when the error you have came up. Then I had to do a emerge -Nuv world to recompile a few packages that the change affected. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hi, I got similiar (?) problems here: 1) I had xmms installed, now it is removed (emerge -C). 2) it is not listed in package.use 3) It is not listed in world I get: solfire:/rootemerge --pretend --tree --verbose --update --deep world These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating world dependencies - !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =media-sound/xmms-1.2.7-r6 have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - media-sound/xmms-1.2.10-r16 (masked by: package.mask) # Diego Pettenò [EMAIL PROTECTED] (23 Oct 2006) # Pending removal 23 November for multiple bugs # Use anything but this, like media-sound/audacious # media-sound/amarok media-sound/mpd media-sound/rythmbox # media-sound/muine media-sound/banshee - media-sound/xmms-1.2.10-r14 (masked by: package.mask) - media-sound/xmms-1.2.10-r15 (masked by: package.mask) For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. (dependency required by media-sound/normalize-0.7.6-r2 [ebuild]) !!! Problem resolving dependencies for app-cdr/k9copy !!! Depgraph creation failed. For normalize and k9copy I get: solfire:/rootemerge -pv k9copy These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] app-cdr/k9copy-1.0.4 USE=arts -debug -xinerama 0 kB Total size of downloads: 0 kB solfire:/rootemerge -pv normalize These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] media-sound/normalize-0.7.6-r2 USE=mad nls -audiofile* (-xmms*) 0 kB Total size of downloads: 0 kB solfire:/root Systemfailure: E_NOIDEA :) What did I wrong here? k9copy seems to have no idea of xmms and normalize explicitely say NO XMMS (-xmms)... Thanks a lot for helping to solve the knot in advance! Keep hacking! mcc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms alternative
On 10/23/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: solfire:/rootemerge --pretend --tree --verbose --update --deep world Add --newuse, so that everything that used to have a xmms use flag can be rebuilt. [ebuild R ] media-sound/normalize-0.7.6-r2 USE=mad nls -audiofile* (-xmms*) 0 kB [snip] What did I wrong here? k9copy seems to have no idea of xmms and normalize explicitely say NO XMMS (-xmms)... Not exactly. It says no xmms, but the '*' also says the flag state has changed since the last time you merged the package. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
