[gentoo-user] xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)

2010-08-27 Thread James
Hello,

We'll I've got a new samsung monitor 2333HD-1
that is verified 1920x1080.

Finally, I got it working on a dvi-d-2-dvi-d video cable
with no problems...(minimal xorg.conf) and ati-drivers.


OK, so I switch to a DVI-Don video card to HDMI
on the monitor and it comes in, but the bottom and sides
are missing. 

OK so I found this thread that I'm guessing is
on the mark:
http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23826

But, I'm a little bit 'chicken' with xorg.conf, not
to mention messing with the dot clock et al...
CLUCK  CLUCK  CLUCK

Anyone want to venture a guess about the display settings,
suggested in the link? that I should use? A better way?

Here's the (example) math I use to use:
#   DisplaySize 426 266
# width  = (1680pix  / 100pix/in) x [25.4mm/in] =  427 -- 426
# hieght = (1050pix  / 100pix/in) x [25.4mm/in] =  267 -- 266


Here is what's working with the dvi-dvi cable:

Section Monitor
Identifier   aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0
Option  VendorName ATI Proprietary Driver
Option  ModelName Generic Autodetecting Monitor
Option  DPMS true
HorizSync30-81
VertRefresh  56-75
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  aticonfig-Device[0]-0
Driver  fglrx
BusID   PCI:2:0:0
#   Option  XAANoOffscreenPixmaps true
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier aticonfig-Screen[0]-0
Device aticonfig-Device[0]-0
Monitoraticonfig-Monitor[0]-0
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection Display
Viewport  0 0
Depth 24
Modes1920x1080 1680x1050 1280x1024 1024x768
EndSubSection
EndSection





Re: [gentoo-user] xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)

2010-08-27 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 1:31 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
 We'll I've got a new samsung monitor 2333HD-1
 that is verified 1920x1080.

 Finally, I got it working on a dvi-d-2-dvi-d video cable
 with no problems...(minimal xorg.conf) and ati-drivers.


 OK, so I switch to a DVI-Don video card to HDMI
 on the monitor and it comes in, but the bottom and sides
 are missing.

I guess this is the question to me:

Is the monitor doing overscan on HDMI?
or
Is the ATI driver doing underscan on HDMI based on the assumption that
the monitor will overscan?

Check if your monitor on-screen menu has overscan settings (or change
it to PC Mode or something, the manufacturers all have different
terminology). Otherwise if it has no settings you'll have to conitunue
messing with the ATI drivers instead.



Re: [gentoo-user] xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)

2010-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 20:31 on Friday 27 August 2010, James did 
opine thusly:

 Hello,
 
 We'll I've got a new samsung monitor 2333HD-1
 that is verified 1920x1080.
 
 Finally, I got it working on a dvi-d-2-dvi-d video cable
 with no problems...(minimal xorg.conf) and ati-drivers.
 
 
 OK, so I switch to a DVI-Don video card to HDMI
 on the monitor and it comes in, but the bottom and sides
 are missing.
 
 OK so I found this thread that I'm guessing is
 on the mark:
 http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23826
 
 But, I'm a little bit 'chicken' with xorg.conf, not
 to mention messing with the dot clock 


I don't have an answer to your actual question, but I can answer the above.

You have nothing to fear from fiddling with clock settings on a flat panel.
That only ever applied to CRT displays where running the horizontal frequency 
higher than the circuit was designed for would increase the HT voltage at the 
final anode - which often cracked the thin glass on the tube neck.

Flat panels do not have a concept of scan coil to drive, there is no HT 
transformer and there is no tube to have 28kV inside of. The owrst you can do 
is to get no picture.

 
-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)

2010-08-27 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 15:31, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
 Hello,

 We'll I've got a new samsung monitor 2333HD-1
 that is verified 1920x1080.

 Finally, I got it working on a dvi-d-2-dvi-d video cable
 with no problems...(minimal xorg.conf) and ati-drivers.


 OK, so I switch to a DVI-Don video card to HDMI
 on the monitor and it comes in, but the bottom and sides
 are missing.

 OK so I found this thread that I'm guessing is
 on the mark:
 http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23826

 But, I'm a little bit 'chicken' with xorg.conf, not
 to mention messing with the dot clock et al...
 CLUCK  CLUCK  CLUCK

 Anyone want to venture a guess about the display settings,
 suggested in the link? that I should use? A better way?

 Here's the (example) math I use to use:
 #       DisplaySize 426 266
 # width  = (1680pix  / 100pix/in) x [25.4mm/in] =  427 -- 426
 # hieght = (1050pix  / 100pix/in) x [25.4mm/in] =  267 -- 266


 Here is what's working with the dvi-dvi cable:

 Section Monitor
        Identifier   aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0
        Option      VendorName ATI Proprietary Driver
        Option      ModelName Generic Autodetecting Monitor
        Option      DPMS true
        HorizSync    30-81
        VertRefresh  56-75
 EndSection

 Section Device
        Identifier  aticonfig-Device[0]-0
        Driver      fglrx
        BusID       PCI:2:0:0
 #       Option      XAANoOffscreenPixmaps true
 EndSection

 Section Screen
        Identifier aticonfig-Screen[0]-0
        Device     aticonfig-Device[0]-0
        Monitor    aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0
        DefaultDepth     24
        SubSection Display
                Viewport  0 0
                Depth     24
                Modes    1920x1080 1680x1050 1280x1024 1024x768
        EndSubSection
 EndSection





Have you tried setting the INPUT NAME of the HDMI to PC using the
remote (on TV)?
My Samsung does the same, after I set my HDMI as PC everything is at
the right place.

-- 
Daniel da Veiga



Re: [gentoo-user] xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)

2010-08-27 Thread Jason Carson
 Hello,

 We'll I've got a new samsung monitor 2333HD-1
 that is verified 1920x1080.

 Finally, I got it working on a dvi-d-2-dvi-d video cable
 with no problems...(minimal xorg.conf) and ati-drivers.


 OK, so I switch to a DVI-Don video card to HDMI
 on the monitor and it comes in, but the bottom and sides
 are missing.

Can you set overscan to 0% in the ATI Catalyst Control Center. Does that
make a difference?


 OK so I found this thread that I'm guessing is
 on the mark:
 http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23826

 But, I'm a little bit 'chicken' with xorg.conf, not
 to mention messing with the dot clock et al...
 CLUCK  CLUCK  CLUCK

 Anyone want to venture a guess about the display settings,
 suggested in the link? that I should use? A better way?

 Here's the (example) math I use to use:
 #   DisplaySize 426 266
 # width  = (1680pix  / 100pix/in) x [25.4mm/in] =  427 -- 426
 # hieght = (1050pix  / 100pix/in) x [25.4mm/in] =  267 -- 266


 Here is what's working with the dvi-dvi cable:

 Section Monitor
 Identifier   aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0
 Option  VendorName ATI Proprietary Driver
 Option  ModelName Generic Autodetecting Monitor
 Option  DPMS true
 HorizSync30-81
 VertRefresh  56-75
 EndSection

 Section Device
 Identifier  aticonfig-Device[0]-0
 Driver  fglrx
 BusID   PCI:2:0:0
 #   Option  XAANoOffscreenPixmaps true
 EndSection

 Section Screen
 Identifier aticonfig-Screen[0]-0
 Device aticonfig-Device[0]-0
 Monitoraticonfig-Monitor[0]-0
 DefaultDepth 24
 SubSection Display
 Viewport  0 0
 Depth 24
 Modes1920x1080 1680x1050 1280x1024 1024x768
 EndSubSection
 EndSection