Re: CRTs and EDID (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody want to beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev?

2011-11-16 Thread waltdnes
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 09:53:47AM -0500, Michael Mol wrote

 Just an FYI, EDID blocks have been part of CRT tech since the mid to
 late 90s; it's the basis of plug  play monitors.
 
 IIRC, the EDID block is transported via DDC, which is essentially I2C
 implemented on top of your VGA cable. I've got three EDID-supporting,
 19 1600x1200 CRTs staring me in the face right now.
 
 https://plus.google.com/108080062547354628132/posts/ZLLw66eL4We

  Maybe X has learned how to read them without udev's help.  The xorg
logfile shows the EDID block, max/min horizontal/vertical scan rates,
supported modes, etc.

-- 
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org



Re: CRTs and EDID (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody want to beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev?

2011-11-16 Thread Michael Mol
On 11/16/2011 06:20 PM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 09:53:47AM -0500, Michael Mol wrote

 Just an FYI, EDID blocks have been part of CRT tech since the mid to
 late 90s; it's the basis of plug  play monitors.

 IIRC, the EDID block is transported via DDC, which is essentially I2C
 implemented on top of your VGA cable. I've got three EDID-supporting,
 19 1600x1200 CRTs staring me in the face right now.

 https://plus.google.com/108080062547354628132/posts/ZLLw66eL4We
   Maybe X has learned how to read them without udev's help.  The xorg
 logfile shows the EDID block, max/min horizontal/vertical scan rates,
 supported modes, etc.

Xorg's been around since 2004, and udev since 2003, so it's possible
that it's depended on udev for displays.

It seems unlikely, though; I remember XFree86 4.x having EDID support,
just prior to people migrating over to Xorg. It was a royal pain,
actually; my Thinkpad 760XL's LVDA (I think it was LVDA. It wasn't a
common laptop video connection yet) display didn't support EDID, and I
never did manage to get any version of XFree86 newer than 3.3.6 working
on it.

Point is, Xorg autoconfiguration has worked find for *most* setups for
almost a decade. At the very least, it's worked fine since the first
graphical Knoppix and Ubuntu live CDs.



CRTs and EDID (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody want to beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev?

2011-11-15 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:21 AM,  waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
 Contrary to the FUD I've heard, X works just fine, thank you, without an
 xorg.conf.  Modern flatscreens with EDID info are set up automatically.  I
 suppose that old CRT monitors without EDID info might require xorg.conf,
 but that's exotic hardware nowadays.

Just an FYI, EDID blocks have been part of CRT tech since the mid to
late 90s; it's the basis of plug  play monitors.

IIRC, the EDID block is transported via DDC, which is essentially I2C
implemented on top of your VGA cable. I've got three EDID-supporting,
19 1600x1200 CRTs staring me in the face right now.

https://plus.google.com/108080062547354628132/posts/ZLLw66eL4We

-- 
:wq