Re: FeatureRequest Was: Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-06-11 Thread Bertram Scharpf
Hi,

Am Sonntag, 10. Jun 2007, 15:06:03 -0500 schrieb Karl Haines:
 Color is pretty ;) lol. It makes things interesting! I agree however
 that there might need to be some way to turn it off easily.

As far as I see, most e* tools respond on an appended |cat
or have at least a non-color option. Ok, still there are
cursor positioning sequences.

I tried to switch them off; I managed to do this only by
modifing /sbin/functions.sh. Further, when I give the
--nocolor option to an init script only the second line of
those below will lose its colour, the first one still
appears in green and blue.

 * Caching service dependencies ... * [ ok ]
 * Setting clock via the NTP client 'ntpdate' ...   * [ ok ]

Some time ago I happened to write an equery redesign in
Ruby, just for fun. It's far from perfect but it definitely
won't output any colors if you don't want them. Of course,
init scripts are more difficult to handle because they are
written in Bash. In case anyone finds the project is worth
being pursued, here's the code:

  http://www.bertram-scharpf.de/tmp/equery.rb

Bertram


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FeatureRequest Was: Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-06-10 Thread Robert Welz


Am 04.04.2007 um 06:17 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Why do --nocolor and --color=n not work (sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.3)?

Why does the damned thing default to thinking I want blaring bizarre
colors scattered all over my screen?



I fully agree!

But not only for portage (emerge) but for the whole system.

Today I fought with a shell script:

#! /bin/bash
restart_result=`/etc/init.d/boinc restart
/usr/bin/echo -e $restart_result | /root/bin/mail check chroots  
cron-Oberon


and no simpe way to switch color and other ANSI Sequences to off  
exept by a regular expression.


bash color can sometimes be evil ;)

Robert



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Re: FeatureRequest Was: Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-06-10 Thread Karl Haines
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Color is pretty ;) lol. It makes things interesting! I agree however
that there might need to be some way to turn it off easily.

Robert Welz wrote:
 
 Am 04.04.2007 um 06:17 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Why do --nocolor and --color=n not work (sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.3)?

 Why does the damned thing default to thinking I want blaring bizarre
 colors scattered all over my screen?
 
 
 I fully agree!
 
 But not only for portage (emerge) but for the whole system.
 
 Today I fought with a shell script:
 
 #! /bin/bash
 restart_result=`/etc/init.d/boinc restart
 /usr/bin/echo -e $restart_result | /root/bin/mail check chroots
 cron-Oberon
 
 and no simpe way to switch color and other ANSI Sequences to off exept
 by a regular expression.
 
 bash color can sometimes be evil ;)
 
 Robert
 
 
 
 ;););)


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Re: FeatureRequest Was: Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-06-10 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Sunday 10 June 2007, Karl Haines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: 
FeatureRequest Was: Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love 
with colorized output?!?':
 Color is pretty ;) lol. It makes things interesting! I agree however
 that there might need to be some way to turn it off easily.

It should also be turned off by default for anything that's not a terminal. 
or a terminal whose termcap/terminfo/etc. doesn't support the ANSI color 
feature. One of the most annoying things I've ever seen is ANSI escape 
codes in emails and/or log files.  Gentoo is fairly good about that now, 
but I'm still having problem with RoR misbehaving in this way.

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Re: FeatureRequest Was: Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-06-10 Thread Kevin O'Gorman

On 6/10/07, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sunday 10 June 2007, Karl Haines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re:
FeatureRequest Was: Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love
with colorized output?!?':
 Color is pretty ;) lol. It makes things interesting! I agree however
 that there might need to be some way to turn it off easily.

It should also be turned off by default for anything that's not a terminal.
or a terminal whose termcap/terminfo/etc. doesn't support the ANSI color
feature. One of the most annoying things I've ever seen is ANSI escape
codes in emails and/or log files.  Gentoo is fairly good about that now,
but I'm still having problem with RoR misbehaving in this way.



I also dislike the colorization, but for a more specific reason.  Gentoo seems
to assume one is using white on black rather than the default black on white
in terminal windows.  This makes yellow lettering entirely unreadable to me.
If I could just change all occurrences of yellow to orange (otherwise not
much used) I'd probably not mind so much,  but the entire scheme seems
to be hard-coded. And I don't like white-on-black even though it's labelled
Linux console in Konsole.

++ kevin

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Re: FeatureRequest Was: Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-06-10 Thread Daniel Pielmeier

 I also dislike the colorization, but for a more specific reason.  Gentoo
 seems
 to assume one is using white on black rather than the default black on
 white
 in terminal windows.  This makes yellow lettering entirely unreadable to
 me.
 If I could just change all occurrences of yellow to orange (otherwise not
 much used) I'd probably not mind so much,  but the entire scheme seems
 to be hard-coded. And I don't like white-on-black even though it's labelled
 Linux console in Konsole.

I don't know if this was mentioned before and if it will fit your needs,
but you can change the default colors of portage-output with
/etc/portage/color.map.

Take a look here:
http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20060918-newsletter.xml
http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Remap_Portage_Colors
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Re: FeatureRequest Was: Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-06-10 Thread Graham Murray
Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I also dislike the colorization, but for a more specific reason.  Gentoo seems
 to assume one is using white on black rather than the default black on white
 in terminal windows.  This makes yellow lettering entirely unreadable to me.
 If I could just change all occurrences of yellow to orange (otherwise not
 much used) I'd probably not mind so much,  but the entire scheme seems
 to be hard-coded. And I don't like white-on-black even though it's labelled
 Linux console in Konsole.

Maybe it should do something similar to emacs and automatically use a
different colour scheme depending on whether the terminal is 'dark on
light' or 'light on dark'.
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Re: FeatureRequest Was: Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-06-10 Thread Karl Haines
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Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
 On 6/10/07, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sunday 10 June 2007, Karl Haines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about
 'Re:
 FeatureRequest Was: Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love
 with colorized output?!?':
  Color is pretty ;) lol. It makes things interesting! I agree however
  that there might need to be some way to turn it off easily.

 It should also be turned off by default for anything that's not a
 terminal.
 or a terminal whose termcap/terminfo/etc. doesn't support the ANSI color
 feature. One of the most annoying things I've ever seen is ANSI escape
 codes in emails and/or log files.  Gentoo is fairly good about that now,
 but I'm still having problem with RoR misbehaving in this way.

 
 I also dislike the colorization, but for a more specific reason.  Gentoo
 seems
 to assume one is using white on black rather than the default black on
 white
 in terminal windows.  This makes yellow lettering entirely unreadable to
 me.
 If I could just change all occurrences of yellow to orange (otherwise not
 much used) I'd probably not mind so much,  but the entire scheme seems
 to be hard-coded. And I don't like white-on-black even though it's labelled
 Linux console in Konsole.
 
 ++ kevin
 

I agree with this also, when using a term window in gnome, kde, etc, the
default is always black on white. I always go and change that right off
the bat. Ah, well. Gentoo is still the best, lets make it better!

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