Re: PVSCSI vs LSI Logic Parallel/SAS - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-25 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2013-04-25 7:44 AM, Pandu Poluan  wrote:

On Apr 25, 2013 5:54 PM, "Tanstaafl" wrote:

On 2013-04-24 10:23 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote:

My Gentoo VMs in the cloud (using VMware's vCloud) uses PV-SCSI. It's
stable... but kind of sensitive: Everytime the cloud provider do
something with their storage, my VMs become Read-Only.



Ouch... so, how do you fix it?



For the Read-Only problem, a simple reboot suffices.

But I made sure to fire an angry email to the Customer Support, telling
them in no uncertain terms that the next time they want to do something
re: their storage, they contact me first.


Interesting... thanks for the heads up, but since this is on my own 
host, I won't need to worry about this.




Re: PVSCSI vs LSI Logic Parallel/SAS - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-25 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Apr 25, 2013 5:54 PM, "Tanstaafl"  wrote:
>
> On 2013-04-24 10:23 PM, Pandu Poluan  wrote:
>>
>> My Gentoo VMs in the cloud (using VMware's vCloud) uses PV-SCSI. It's
>> stable... but kind of sensitive: Everytime the cloud provider do
>> something with their storage, my VMs become Read-Only.
>
>
> Ouch... so, how do you fix it?
>

For the Read-Only problem, a simple reboot suffices.

But I made sure to fire an angry email to the Customer Support, telling
them in no uncertain terms that the next time they want to do something re:
their storage, they contact me first.

So, when the time comes for then to do some storage management things, they
tell me exactly at what time. I scheduled the VMs to shut down at the
agreed time, and turn them back on as soon as they text me that their
maintenance had finished. Only one VM I left on, the "gatewall" VM. And
every single time the gatewall VM detected that something is being done on
the storage level, and changed to a Read-Only mode.

I consider myself lucky that when the 'problem' manifested itself, the VMs
are not yet in Production. And no corruption happened.

(PS: Strangely enough, the RO switch happens only on Gentoo VMs; the
FreeBSD VMs and Debian VMs are unaffected. Maybe because I've pared down
each and every Gentoo VM to their bare minimum, so they are much more
responsive)

Rgds,
--


Re: PVSCSI vs LSI Logic Parallel/SAS - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-25 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2013-04-24 10:23 PM, Pandu Poluan  wrote:

My Gentoo VMs in the cloud (using VMware's vCloud) uses PV-SCSI. It's
stable... but kind of sensitive: Everytime the cloud provider do
something with their storage, my VMs become Read-Only.


Ouch... so, how do you fix it?



Re: PVSCSI vs LSI Logic Parallel/SAS - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-24 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Apr 24, 2013 2:29 AM, "Tanstaafl"  wrote:
>
> On 2013-04-22 8:56 AM, Andre Lucas Falco  wrote:
>>
>> 2013/4/21 Tanstaafl  wrote:
>>>
>>> Windows VMs see get an 'LSI Logic SAS', and my gentoo VM gets an
>>> 'LSI Logic Parallel' controller.
>
>
>> Did you tested using pvscsi? It's improve performance with less cost to
>> CPU usage.
>
>
> No, I didn't...
>
> It appears there is pvscsi support in the mainline linux kernel, but is
it rock-solid? Anyone else here running gentoo linux with this driver for
their primary/boot disk controller?
>
> Also, for my windows server 2008r2 vms, I used the default, which was the
LSI SAS... I did search and found the knowledgebase article describing how
to change them, but is the gain really worth the trouble (and more
importantly, the risk)?
>

My Gentoo VMs in the cloud (using VMware's vCloud) uses PV-SCSI. It's
stable... but kind of sensitive: Everytime the cloud provider do something
with their storage, my VMs become Read-Only.

Other than that, performance is good, no fs corruption, etc.

Rgds,
--


Re: PVSCSI vs LSI Logic Parallel/SAS - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-24 Thread Tanstaafl

Anyone?

On 2013-04-23 3:28 PM, Tanstaafl  wrote:

On 2013-04-22 8:56 AM, Andre Lucas Falco  wrote:

2013/4/21 Tanstaafl  wrote:

Windows VMs see get an 'LSI Logic SAS', and my gentoo VM gets an
'LSI Logic Parallel' controller.



Did you tested using pvscsi? It's improve performance with less cost to
CPU usage.


No, I didn't...

It appears there is pvscsi support in the mainline linux kernel, but is
it rock-solid? Anyone else here running gentoo linux with this driver
for their primary/boot disk controller?

Also, for my windows server 2008r2 vms, I used the default, which was
the LSI SAS... I did search and found the knowledgebase article
describing how to change them, but is the gain really worth the trouble
(and more importantly, the risk)?






PVSCSI vs LSI Logic Parallel/SAS - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-23 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2013-04-22 8:56 AM, Andre Lucas Falco  wrote:

2013/4/21 Tanstaafl  wrote:

Windows VMs see get an 'LSI Logic SAS', and my gentoo VM gets an
'LSI Logic Parallel' controller.



Did you tested using pvscsi? It's improve performance with less cost to
CPU usage.


No, I didn't...

It appears there is pvscsi support in the mainline linux kernel, but is 
it rock-solid? Anyone else here running gentoo linux with this driver 
for their primary/boot disk controller?


Also, for my windows server 2008r2 vms, I used the default, which was 
the LSI SAS... I did search and found the knowledgebase article 
describing how to change them, but is the gain really worth the trouble 
(and more importantly, the risk)?