Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka moment!
Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > I just discovered something (I think). Probably everyone else already > knew it but didn't tell me. Shame on all of you! Had we told you, would you be this excited about discovering the new feature? > > Do all audio cd's have the mp3's and ogg files on them also > No.. > (snip) I'm hoping that KDE Dev's decide to the same to DVD also.. It'd be great.. :) Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgp7Xyx82iwA0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka moment!
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 15:33, "Hemmann, Volker Armin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka moment!': > On Wednesday 03 May 2006 20:08, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > On Wednesday 03 May 2006 03:07, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka > > moment!': > > > I've always preferred kaudiocreator for cd ripping in > > > kde. > > > > I have to agree. In no small part because I rip to FLAC for permanent > > storage. > > you can use audiocd:// for that too. Unfortunately, I can't find how to pass special FLAC parameters to that encoder. I use very aggressive settings (basically the limit of what "streamable FLAC" allows) to save HD space w/o loss of quality. Instead of the normal 20%-30% savings by using FLAC instead of wav, I get an average of 50%. -- "If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability." -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh pgpPPvztvKOEf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka moment!
You just discovered, why some people (like me) really love KDE, Konqueror and the kioslaves. Also for the LOL moments it can give us on the gentoo mailing list :D m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka moment!
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 20:08, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Wednesday 03 May 2006 03:07, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka > > moment!': > > Although > > personally I've always preferred kaudiocreator for cd ripping in kde. > > I have to agree. In no small part because I rip to FLAC for permanent > storage then transcode as needed to fit a bajillion songs on a portable > device / ogg CD. you can use audiocd:// for that too. There is a nice FLAC directory. Just copy it -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka moment!
Raymond Lewis Rebbeck wrote: > On Wednesday, May 3 2006 17:23, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > >>Does is also get the filenames, etc. from CDDB? >> >>Tony > > > As far as I know, yes it does do a cddb lookup for the cd. Although > personally > I've always preferred kaudiocreator for cd ripping in kde. > I can't get kaudiocreator to compile. It wants arts and I don't use arts. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka moment!
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 03:07, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka moment!': > Although > personally I've always preferred kaudiocreator for cd ripping in kde. I have to agree. In no small part because I rip to FLAC for permanent storage then transcode as needed to fit a bajillion songs on a portable device / ogg CD. -- "If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability." -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh pgpzn8pcKb42G.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka moment!
Congratulations! You just discovered, why some people (like me) really love KDE, Konqueror and the kioslaves. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka moment!
Good thing they didn't decide to call it krip, that might be dangerous! Justin On 5/3/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wednesday, May 3 2006 17:23, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > Does is also get the filenames, etc. from CDDB? > > Tony As far as I know, yes it does do a cddb lookup for the cd. Although personally I've always preferred kaudiocreator for cd ripping in kde. -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Justin W. Hart -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka moment!
It queries CDDB and constructs filenames from this metadata. How these filenames look is configurable, as indicated in one of the earlier posts on this topic. Justin On 5/3/06, Anthony E. Caudel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Raymond Lewis Rebbeck wrote: > On Wednesday, May 3 2006 17:03, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > >>I just discovered something (I think). Probably everyone else already >>knew it but didn't tell me. Shame on all of you! >> >>Do all audio cd's have the mp3's and ogg files on them also >> >>I happened to look at one with konqueror and noticed several files and >>directories on it. The cd was not mounted (and could not be mounted) >>but was viewable nontheless. And I could copy a mp3 to my hard disk and >>play it. >> >>Not mountable implies no filesystem so how was I able to view it and >>copy from it? >> >>And if all audio cd's are this way, why do we need to rip them? Just >>copy the mp3's, or ogg's (or wav's). >> >>I am really confused! >> >>Tony >>-- >>Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary >>Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. >> -- Benjamin Franklin > > > KDE's 'audiocd:/' ioslave automatically gives you virtual folders full of oggs > and mp3s. When you copy and paste these files to your filesystem KDE > automatically performs the ripping and encoding in the background. > WOW! Another plus for KDE. Does is also get the filenames, etc. from CDDB? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Justin W. Hart -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka moment!
On Wednesday, May 3 2006 17:23, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > Does is also get the filenames, etc. from CDDB? > > Tony As far as I know, yes it does do a cddb lookup for the cd. Although personally I've always preferred kaudiocreator for cd ripping in kde. -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka moment!
Raymond Lewis Rebbeck wrote: > On Wednesday, May 3 2006 17:03, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > >>I just discovered something (I think). Probably everyone else already >>knew it but didn't tell me. Shame on all of you! >> >>Do all audio cd's have the mp3's and ogg files on them also >> >>I happened to look at one with konqueror and noticed several files and >>directories on it. The cd was not mounted (and could not be mounted) >>but was viewable nontheless. And I could copy a mp3 to my hard disk and >>play it. >> >>Not mountable implies no filesystem so how was I able to view it and >>copy from it? >> >>And if all audio cd's are this way, why do we need to rip them? Just >>copy the mp3's, or ogg's (or wav's). >> >>I am really confused! >> >>Tony >>-- >>Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary >>Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. >> -- Benjamin Franklin > > > KDE's 'audiocd:/' ioslave automatically gives you virtual folders full of > oggs > and mp3s. When you copy and paste these files to your filesystem KDE > automatically performs the ripping and encoding in the background. > WOW! Another plus for KDE. Does is also get the filenames, etc. from CDDB? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka moment!
On 03 May 2006 08:33, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > I just discovered something (I think). Probably everyone else already > knew it but didn't tell me. Shame on all of you! > > Do all audio cd's have the mp3's and ogg files on them also No. > > I happened to look at one with konqueror and noticed several files and > directories on it. The cd was not mounted (and could not be mounted) > but was viewable nontheless. And I could copy a mp3 to my hard disk and > play it. Konqueror is able to convert the tracks on an audio CD to MP3 or Ogg. ;-) Uwe -- Why do consumers keep buying products they will live to curse? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka moment!
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 02:33, "Anthony E. Caudel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka moment!': > Do all audio cd's have the mp3's and ogg files on them also Nope. > I happened to look at one with konqueror and noticed several files and > directories on it. [H]ow was I able to view it and > copy from it? That's just KDE being KDE. kio_audiocd reads the TOC, looks that up in CDDB/FreeCDDB and generates "virtual folders" that contain the "virtual files" representing original wavs, metadata, and metadata-loaded oggs and mp3s. When you move a "virtual file" to a real folder, it kicks in again to actually generate the data represented by pulling the audio data from the CD (and putting though an encoder and adding tags, as needed). You change change the auto-encoder setting (among other things) under Control Center -> Sound & Multimedia -> Audio CDs. -- "If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability." -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh pgpjLDUFpbmtN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka moment!
Don't quote me on this, because, I don't know for sure if it already exists (I do know for sure that not all CDs have mp3s and oggs on them), but it would be perfectly possible to develop a konqueror plug-in that automagically presented your CD tracks to you as mp3's and oggs and ripped them for you, making it look as though these were already on your cd for you. Justin On 5/3/06, Anthony E. Caudel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just discovered something (I think). Probably everyone else already knew it but didn't tell me. Shame on all of you! Do all audio cd's have the mp3's and ogg files on them also I happened to look at one with konqueror and noticed several files and directories on it. The cd was not mounted (and could not be mounted) but was viewable nontheless. And I could copy a mp3 to my hard disk and play it. Not mountable implies no filesystem so how was I able to view it and copy from it? And if all audio cd's are this way, why do we need to rip them? Just copy the mp3's, or ogg's (or wav's). I am really confused! Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Justin W. Hart -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka moment!
On Wednesday, May 3 2006 17:03, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > I just discovered something (I think). Probably everyone else already > knew it but didn't tell me. Shame on all of you! > > Do all audio cd's have the mp3's and ogg files on them also > > I happened to look at one with konqueror and noticed several files and > directories on it. The cd was not mounted (and could not be mounted) > but was viewable nontheless. And I could copy a mp3 to my hard disk and > play it. > > Not mountable implies no filesystem so how was I able to view it and > copy from it? > > And if all audio cd's are this way, why do we need to rip them? Just > copy the mp3's, or ogg's (or wav's). > > I am really confused! > > Tony > -- > Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary > Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. >-- Benjamin Franklin KDE's 'audiocd:/' ioslave automatically gives you virtual folders full of oggs and mp3s. When you copy and paste these files to your filesystem KDE automatically performs the ripping and encoding in the background. -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list