Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Sun, 23 May 2010 12:21:39 +0100, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: It would be great if mailing list software could be configured so that only users who demonstrate they know how to unsubscribe could subscribe in the first place. Example: - user subscribes - mailing list replies: please unsubscribe and subscribe again - if user fails to do so within a configurable amount of time, forcibly unsubscribe him - if user succeeds, leave him subscribed after the second subscription. Greylisting for real people :) -- Neil Bothwick I can't walk on water, but I can stagger on alcohol. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Sun, 23 May 2010 11:38:55 +0100, Barry Jibb wrote: I WANT TO UNSUBSCRIBE Here's how to unsubscribe: First, ask your Internet Provider to mail you an Unsubscribing Kit. Then follow these directions. The kit will most likely be the standard no-fault type. Depending on requirements, System A and/or System B can be used. When operating System A, depress lever and a plastic dalkron unsubscriber will be dispensed through the slot immediately underneath. When you have fastened the adhesive lip, attach connection marked by the large X outlet hose. Twist the silver-coloured ring one inch below the connection point until you feel it lock. The kit is now ready for use. The Cin-Eliminator is activated by the small switch on the lip. When securing, twist the ring back to its initial condition, so that the two orange lines meet. Disconnect. Place the dalkron unsubscriber in the vacuum receptacle to the rear. Activate by pressing the blue button. The controls for System B are located on the opposite side. The red release switch places the Cin-Eliminator into position; it can be adjusted manually up or down by pressing the blue manual release button. The opening is self-adjusting. To secure after use, press the green button, which simultaneously activates the evaporator and returns the Cin-Eliminator to its storage position. You may log off if the green exit light is on over the evaporator. If the red light is illuminated, one of the Cin-Eliminator requirements has not been properly implemented. Press the List Guy call button on the right of the evaporator. He will secure all facilities from his control panel. To use the Auto-Unsub, first undress and place all your clothes in the clothes rack. Put on the velcro slippers located in the cabinet immediately below. Enter the shower, taking the entire kit with you. On the control panel to your upper right upon entering you will see a Shower seal button. Press to activate. A green light will then be illuminated immediately below. On the intensity knob, select the desired setting. Now depress the Auto-Unsub activation lever. Bathe normally. The Auto-Unsub will automatically go off after three minutes unless you activate the Manual off override switch by flipping it up. When you are ready to leave, press the blue Shower seal release button. The door will open and you may leave. Please remove the velcro slippers and place them in their container. If you prefer the ultrasonic log-off mode, press the indicated blue button. When the twin panels open, pull forward by rings A B. The knob to the left, just below the blue light, has three settings, low, medium or high. For normal use, the medium setting is suggested. After these settings have been made, you can activate the device by switching to the ON position the clearly marked red switch. If during the unsubscribing operation you wish to change the settings, place the manual off override switch in the OFF position. You may now make the change and repeat the cycle. When the green exit light goes on, you may log off and have lunch. Please close the door behind you. -- Neil Bothwick If you think talk is cheap, try hiring a lawyer. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
I WANT TO UNSUBSCRIBE 2010/5/23 Fabian Köster koesterre...@gmx.net When I play some Video with a Non-KDE application like VLC everything is perfectly directed to the local PulseAudio running on my machine and i have the expected sound-output. But when I use a KDE-Application like Kaffeine or Amarok there is no sound output although the stream is listed by pavucontrol. The volume-indicator for the stream does not show any activity. I asked on pulseaudio-discuss and they could help me: It is a bug in Phonon 4.4.1 and the two patches mentioned in the post by Colin Guthrie [1] solve the problem for me. I also filed a bug report in Gentoo about this issue [2]. Finally KDE + PulseAudio rock! Despite the huge amount of criticism of PulseAudio on this list it really works good for me and I am quite happy :) btw: KDE PulseAudio-integration is also becoming better from a usability standpoint in the future: [3] Regards, Fabian [1] https://tango.0pointer.de/pipermail/pulseaudio-discuss/2010- May/007263.htmlhttps://tango.0pointer.de/pipermail/pulseaudio-discuss/2010-%0AMay/007263.html [2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321155 [3] http://colin.guthr.ie/tag/kde/
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
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Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
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Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Sunday 23 May 2010, Fabian Köster wrote: I WANT TO UNSUBSCRIBE Maybe you should just do it and stop making noise: gentoo-user+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org It would be great if mailing list software could be configured so that only users who demonstrate they know how to unsubscribe could subscribe in the first place. Example: - user subscribes - mailing list replies: please unsubscribe and subscribe again - if user fails to do so within a configurable amount of time, forcibly unsubscribe him - if user succeeds, leave him subscribed after the second subscription. Just saying...
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On 23/05/2010, at 8:51 PM, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Sunday 23 May 2010, Fabian Köster wrote: I WANT TO UNSUBSCRIBE Maybe you should just do it and stop making noise: gentoo-user+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org It would be great if mailing list software could be configured so that only users who demonstrate they know how to unsubscribe could subscribe in the first place. Example: - user subscribes - mailing list replies: please unsubscribe and subscribe again - if user fails to do so within a configurable amount of time, forcibly unsubscribe him - if user succeeds, leave him subscribed after the second subscription. Just saying... You may as well attach an IQ test as well. The fact is that it is easy to read how to unsubscribe, as well as that it is simple to not click and open every piece of email you recieve, so complaints like this are rather baseless.
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Sunday 23 May 2010, Indexer wrote: On 23/05/2010, at 8:51 PM, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Sunday 23 May 2010, Fabian Köster wrote: I WANT TO UNSUBSCRIBE Maybe you should just do it and stop making noise: gentoo-user+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org It would be great if mailing list software could be configured so that only users who demonstrate they know how to unsubscribe could subscribe in the first place. Example: - user subscribes - mailing list replies: please unsubscribe and subscribe again - if user fails to do so within a configurable amount of time, forcibly unsubscribe him - if user succeeds, leave him subscribed after the second subscription. Just saying... You may as well attach an IQ test as well. The fact is that it is easy to read how to unsubscribe, as well as that it is simple to not click and open every piece of email you recieve, so complaints like this are rather baseless. Uh? If it's so easy to read how to unsubscribe, why so many people periodically beg for help to unsubscribe, or send useless unsubscribe messages to mailing lists? And yes, it's not so strange that to be accepted as part of a group you may be asked to demonstrate that you know what the rules are. It happens all the time in fact.
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Sunday 23 May 2010 12:21:39 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: It would be great if mailing list software could be configured so that only users who demonstrate they know how to unsubscribe could subscribe in the first place. Example: - user subscribes - mailing list replies: please unsubscribe and subscribe again - if user fails to do so within a configurable amount of time, forcibly unsubscribe him - if user succeeds, leave him subscribed after the second subscription. And how often would you impose refresher tests? Anyone's memory is fallible, as no-one knows better than I do. Better for this purpose would be to require all mailing lists to operate in the same way, but that's equally unlikely, as well as undesirable. Just saying... What does that mean? I had a mother-in-law once who often added it to a critical remark, and I never understood what she meant by it either. -- Rgds Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Sonntag 23 Mai 2010, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 23 May 2010 12:21:39 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: It would be great if mailing list software could be configured so that only users who demonstrate they know how to unsubscribe could subscribe in the first place. Example: - user subscribes - mailing list replies: please unsubscribe and subscribe again - if user fails to do so within a configurable amount of time, forcibly unsubscribe him - if user succeeds, leave him subscribed after the second subscription. And how often would you impose refresher tests? Anyone's memory is fallible, as no-one knows better than I do. Better for this purpose would be to require all mailing lists to operate in the same way, but that's equally unlikely, as well as undesirable. Just saying... What does that mean? I had a mother-in-law once who often added it to a critical remark, and I never understood what she meant by it either. and for the uncurable stupid, unsubscribe instructions are in the header of every mail send: List-Post: mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org List-Help: mailto:gentoo-user+h...@lists.gentoo.org List-Unsubscribe: mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org List-Subscribe: mailto:gentoo-user+subscr...@lists.gentoo.org List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail gentoo-user.gentoo.org oh noes! help!
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Sunday 23 May 2010, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 23 May 2010 12:21:39 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: It would be great if mailing list software could be configured so that only users who demonstrate they know how to unsubscribe could subscribe in the first place. Example: - user subscribes - mailing list replies: please unsubscribe and subscribe again - if user fails to do so within a configurable amount of time, forcibly unsubscribe him - if user succeeds, leave him subscribed after the second subscription. And how often would you impose refresher tests? Anyone's memory is fallible, as no-one knows better than I do. Better for this purpose would be to require all mailing lists to operate in the same way, but that's equally unlikely, as well as undesirable. I would be in favour of that. As I said, many things we do in our lives require active proofs of minimal clue, be it once or periodical. The need is greater if those activities involve people other than you. It's just common sense. In many cases, cluelessness harms; the consequences can be very serious (think driving a car without a licence), moderately serious (for example, setting up unsecured wi-fi), or just annoying (mailing list). So yes, it's not a big deal, it's just annoying to (some of) the other subscribers; but nonetheless,in my opinion participating in a mailing list could require proof of minimal clue. In most cases, it doesn't; I'm not going to start an argument for this, but hopefully one is still allowed to express his opinion. And of course nobody wants you to remeber everything, which would be silly. But having a clue means that you know how to find the information when you need it (in most cases, that means nothing more than you are able to read the instructions; most people seem unable to do even something that simple). In the specific case of the Gentoo mailing lists, it would probably help to append the list instructions at the bottom of each message (as many other lists do), rather than having it only in the headers. Now, people can flame me as much as they want, I won't reply. I just expressed my views, and other people are obviously perfectly free to disagree. Just saying... What does that mean? I had a mother-in-law once who often added it to a critical remark, and I never understood what she meant by it either. One minute of google turns up http://painintheenglish.com/?p=958 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=i%27m%20just%20sayin%27
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Sunday 23 May 2010, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag 23 Mai 2010, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 23 May 2010 12:21:39 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: It would be great if mailing list software could be configured so that only users who demonstrate they know how to unsubscribe could subscribe in the first place. Example: - user subscribes - mailing list replies: please unsubscribe and subscribe again - if user fails to do so within a configurable amount of time, forcibly unsubscribe him - if user succeeds, leave him subscribed after the second subscription. And how often would you impose refresher tests? Anyone's memory is fallible, as no-one knows better than I do. Better for this purpose would be to require all mailing lists to operate in the same way, but that's equally unlikely, as well as undesirable. Just saying... What does that mean? I had a mother-in-law once who often added it to a critical remark, and I never understood what she meant by it either. and for the uncurable stupid, unsubscribe instructions are in the header of every mail send: I wouldn't call people who don't know how to unsubscribe stupid, as they most certainly aren't. But for sure, they should know how to find that information if needed, and all the HELP UNSUBSCRIBE kind of messages clearly show that they don't. And even your posting of the instructions now, cannot help future subscribers who won't read your email. That's why it would probably be better (in my opinion) to append the instructions to every message. But this is a very old debate and was discussed to death many times in the past, so I'm certainly not going to further it (and I hope it won't start another endless thread). (this is not directed to you Volker) If somebody wants to flame or continue to criticize, feel free to do that, I won't reply anyway as I have nothing more to add to what I've said already.
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Sonntag 23 Mai 2010, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Sunday 23 May 2010, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag 23 Mai 2010, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 23 May 2010 12:21:39 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: It would be great if mailing list software could be configured so that only users who demonstrate they know how to unsubscribe could subscribe in the first place. Example: - user subscribes - mailing list replies: please unsubscribe and subscribe again - if user fails to do so within a configurable amount of time, forcibly unsubscribe him - if user succeeds, leave him subscribed after the second subscription. And how often would you impose refresher tests? Anyone's memory is fallible, as no-one knows better than I do. Better for this purpose would be to require all mailing lists to operate in the same way, but that's equally unlikely, as well as undesirable. Just saying... What does that mean? I had a mother-in-law once who often added it to a critical remark, and I never understood what she meant by it either. and for the uncurable stupid, unsubscribe instructions are in the header of every mail send: I wouldn't call people who don't know how to unsubscribe stupid, as they most certainly aren't. But for sure, they should know how to find that information if needed, and all the HELP UNSUBSCRIBE kind of messages clearly show that they don't. And even your posting of the instructions now, cannot help future subscribers who won't read your email. That's why it would probably be better (in my opinion) to append the instructions to every message. But this is a very old debate and was discussed to death many times in the past, so I'm certainly not going to further it (and I hope it won't start another endless thread). (this is not directed to you Volker) If somebody wants to flame or continue to criticize, feel free to do that, I won't reply anyway as I have nothing more to add to what I've said already. yeah, 'search mailing list archive' is such a hard thing to do. Why again should laziness be tolerated?
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 03:05:03PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: And how often would you impose refresher tests? Anyone's memory is fallible, as no-one knows better than I do. You just don't remember someone knowing it better. :) W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Sunday 23 May 2010 18:43:26 Willie Wong wrote: On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 03:05:03PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: And how often would you impose refresher tests? Anyone's memory is fallible, as no-one knows better than I do. You just don't remember someone knowing it better. :) Who said that? -- Rgds Peter.
