Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to determine which mobo without opening case

2009-12-02 Thread David Relson
On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:21:18 -0600
Dale wrote:

 Peter Humphrey wrote:
  On Wednesday 02 December 2009 01:25:16 David Relson wrote:
 

  For grins, whenever I restart my computer I run hwinfo, lshw,
  lspci, and a variety of other utilities and save the results.
  
 
  Good God. I hope you don't do that more than once a decade. Just
  how long can a life be?
 

 
 Unless he changes hardware while it is shutdown.  I don't think the 
 drivers have ever changed on my system since I built it.  I have had
 to add a couple, ethernet card and a SATA card, but other than that,
 it should be the same.
 
 I have to say tho, booting a CD and doing lspci -k or -v is the best
 way to get the right drivers.  That is providing the hardware works
 when that is done.
 
 Dale

Changing kernels can have undesired side effects.  The log files help
to figure out what went wrong.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to determine which mobo without opening case

2009-12-02 Thread Dale

David Relson wrote:

On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:21:18 -0600
Dale wrote:

  

Peter Humphrey wrote:


On Wednesday 02 December 2009 01:25:16 David Relson wrote:

  
  

For grins, whenever I restart my computer I run hwinfo, lshw,
lspci, and a variety of other utilities and save the results.



Good God. I hope you don't do that more than once a decade. Just
how long can a life be?

  
  
Unless he changes hardware while it is shutdown.  I don't think the 
drivers have ever changed on my system since I built it.  I have had

to add a couple, ethernet card and a SATA card, but other than that,
it should be the same.

I have to say tho, booting a CD and doing lspci -k or -v is the best
way to get the right drivers.  That is providing the hardware works
when that is done.

Dale



Changing kernels can have undesired side effects.  The log files help
to figure out what went wrong.

  


That's odd.  I update my kernel fairly regular.  It's always the same 
drivers for the same old hardware.  I don't think the drivers has 
changed for my hardware since I built this system.  My ethernet card 
used dmfe way back when I bought them and after many many kernel 
upgrades, it still uses dmfe.  Same for the other hardware.


I guess your mileage varies a lot.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to determine which mobo without opening case

2009-12-01 Thread Marcus Wanner

On 11/30/2009 9:13 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:

Dan Cowsill danthe...@gmail.com writes:

  

As a matter of curiosity, why can't you open the case?



Aside from extreme laziness, I'd prefer to spend 2 seconds getting the
info than first pulling the machine out of some piled up mess of
several machines, then getting my beat up old body into some contorted
position where I can see inside, and finally just hoping I'll be able
to see something worthwhile that isn't covered with monstor Tuniq 120
cooler or some such.

So guess in short, it would be, aside from extreme
laziness extreme laziness...
  
Actually, I have found it difficult to find out the motherboard of a 
computer without taking the whole thing apart including the cooling fan 
(of course, it might just be me not knowing the correct way to check 
these types of things). It would be much easier to just compile and run 
a program, even if I had to ask here about which program to use.


Marcus



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to determine which mobo without opening case

2009-12-01 Thread David Relson
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:10:41 -0600
Harry Putnam wrote:

 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes:
 
  On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:37:49 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:
 
  How can I determine the motherboard make and model?  I mean without
  opening the case.
 
  sys-apps/lshw
 
 Good call Neil, I found that tool shortly after posting.  It gives as
 good as dmidecode, at least in my case.
 

hwinfo and lspci provide similar info to lshw.  They can be found in
sys-apps/hwinfo and sys-apps/pciutil.

For grins, whenever I restart my computer I run hwinfo, lshw, lspci,
and a variety of other utilities and save the results.  

That way, when next something goes wrong, I'll have a record of when
things went right and will (hopefully) be able to recover.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to determine which mobo without opening case

2009-12-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 02 December 2009 01:25:16 David Relson wrote:

 For grins, whenever I restart my computer I run hwinfo, lshw, lspci,
 and a variety of other utilities and save the results.

Good God. I hope you don't do that more than once a decade. Just how 
long can a life be?

-- 
Rgds
Peter



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to determine which mobo without opening case

2009-12-01 Thread Dale

Peter Humphrey wrote:

On Wednesday 02 December 2009 01:25:16 David Relson wrote:

  

For grins, whenever I restart my computer I run hwinfo, lshw, lspci,
and a variety of other utilities and save the results.



Good God. I hope you don't do that more than once a decade. Just how 
long can a life be?


  


Unless he changes hardware while it is shutdown.  I don't think the 
drivers have ever changed on my system since I built it.  I have had to 
add a couple, ethernet card and a SATA card, but other than that, it 
should be the same.


I have to say tho, booting a CD and doing lspci -k or -v is the best way 
to get the right drivers.  That is providing the hardware works when 
that is done.


Dale

:-)  :-)