Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups

2011-05-20 Thread Stroller

On 19/5/2011, at 11:05pm, Mick wrote:
 On Thursday 19 May 2011 23:03:10 Mick wrote:
 
 On Thursday 19 May 2011 02:28:21 Stroller wrote:
 On 18/5/2011, at 5:57pm, Peter Humphrey wrote:
 ... (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.)
 
 Why do you bother at all, then?
 
 Use get_iplayer:
  http://git.infradead.org/get_iplayer.git
 
 ...
 I see they have a cgi now ... how is that supposed to work?
 
 Ah! Found it a second later:
 
 http://git.infradead.org/get_iplayer.git/blob/a3ab6296f6952d2528252313fc9730026f42759c:/README-
 get_iplayer.cgi.txt

I wouldn't rely on it being supported. 

You should certainly demonstrate the problem on the command-line using the 
regular get_iplayer before reporting it to the mailing list.

Stroller.





Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups

2011-05-19 Thread Mick
On Thursday 19 May 2011 04:56:42 Stroller wrote:
 On 19/5/2011, at 2:41am, Peter Humphrey wrote:
  On Thursday 19 May 2011 02:28:21 Stroller wrote:
  On 18/5/2011, at 5:57pm, Peter Humphrey wrote:
  ... (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.)
  
  Why do you bother at all, then?
  
  Use get_iplayer:
http://git.infradead.org/get_iplayer.git
  
  I'd never heard of it, that's why. Many thanks for the pointer.
 
 It's definitely worth joining the mailing list. It's low-volume, but that's
 where you'll discover updates. The BBC periodically change their SWF
 validation URL and stuff like this.
 
 get_iplayer is a bit obscenely complicated, but once you set a cron job to
 run `--pvr-queue` and daily email delivery of new programmes it becomes
 really simple just to queue a new show for download.
 
 I tend to use things like `get_iplayer --longhelp | grep search` when I do
 want to do something different.
 
 Make sure you use `--prefs-add` to ensure prioritisation of highest quality
 formats, output directory c. E.G.: `get_iplayer --nopurge  --prefs-add 
 get_iplayer --prefs-show`

I see they have a cgi now ... how is that supposed to work?

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups

2011-05-19 Thread Mick
On Thursday 19 May 2011 23:03:10 Mick wrote:
 On Thursday 19 May 2011 04:56:42 Stroller wrote:
  On 19/5/2011, at 2:41am, Peter Humphrey wrote:
   On Thursday 19 May 2011 02:28:21 Stroller wrote:
   On 18/5/2011, at 5:57pm, Peter Humphrey wrote:
   ... (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.)
   
   Why do you bother at all, then?
   
   Use get_iplayer:
 http://git.infradead.org/get_iplayer.git
   
   I'd never heard of it, that's why. Many thanks for the pointer.
  
  It's definitely worth joining the mailing list. It's low-volume, but
  that's where you'll discover updates. The BBC periodically change their
  SWF validation URL and stuff like this.
  
  get_iplayer is a bit obscenely complicated, but once you set a cron job
  to run `--pvr-queue` and daily email delivery of new programmes it
  becomes really simple just to queue a new show for download.
  
  I tend to use things like `get_iplayer --longhelp | grep search` when I
  do want to do something different.
  
  Make sure you use `--prefs-add` to ensure prioritisation of highest
  quality formats, output directory c. E.G.: `get_iplayer --nopurge 
  --prefs-add  get_iplayer --prefs-show`
 
 I see they have a cgi now ... how is that supposed to work?

Ah! Found it a second later:

http://git.infradead.org/get_iplayer.git/blob/a3ab6296f6952d2528252313fc9730026f42759c:/README-
get_iplayer.cgi.txt
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Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups

2011-05-18 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:57:55 Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:35:11 Mark Knecht wrote:
  What about Flash in web browsers is not working for you since updating
  to OpenRC? Granted, I run only Firefox-3.6.X but I see no problem that
  I recognize on any of my machines.
 
 I upgraded to openrc 10 days ago and didn't notice anything untoward, but
 after a few days Firefox 3.6.17 started reporting that it couldn't find
 Flash. (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.) I tried Opera,
 Chrome and Seamonkey, and they either said the same or just sat and looked
 at me when asked to stream audio.
 
 I tried re-merging adobe-flash and nspluginwrapper a couple of times and now
 the audio streaming runs, but I'm suffering random lockups when cycling
 desktops, and I think I remember reading that Flash does sometimes cause
 lockups. I'm thinking of removing everything flash and substituting gnash
 or something, because I do like to listen to the radio.
 
 This is an amd64 box. I have only:
 
 $ cat /etc/portage/package.keywords
 ~app-office/libreoffice-3.3.1

I believe these may be related to having the oficial nvidia drivers.
When having those, it wants to use hardware acceleration and adobe hasn't 
figured out how to do that properly yet

--
Joost



Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups

2011-05-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
 On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:57:55 Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:35:11 Mark Knecht wrote:
  What about Flash in web browsers is not working for you since updating
  to OpenRC? Granted, I run only Firefox-3.6.X but I see no problem that
  I recognize on any of my machines.

 I upgraded to openrc 10 days ago and didn't notice anything untoward, but
 after a few days Firefox 3.6.17 started reporting that it couldn't find
 Flash. (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.) I tried Opera,
 Chrome and Seamonkey, and they either said the same or just sat and looked
 at me when asked to stream audio.

 I tried re-merging adobe-flash and nspluginwrapper a couple of times and now
 the audio streaming runs, but I'm suffering random lockups when cycling
 desktops, and I think I remember reading that Flash does sometimes cause
 lockups. I'm thinking of removing everything flash and substituting gnash
 or something, because I do like to listen to the radio.

 This is an amd64 box. I have only:

 $ cat /etc/portage/package.keywords
 ~app-office/libreoffice-3.3.1

 I believe these may be related to having the oficial nvidia drivers.
 When having those, it wants to use hardware acceleration and adobe hasn't
 figured out how to do that properly yet

 --
 Joost

I do use the ~amd64 nvidia-driver  flash here and haven't seen any
problems, although I don't make a lot of use of Flash in Linux but
rather do most media watching in a Win XP VM.

- Mark

mark@c2stable ~ $ eix -Ic flash
[I] www-plugins/adobe-flash (10.3.181.14-r1@05/14/11): Adobe Flash Player
mark@c2stable ~ $ eix -Ic nvidia
[I] dev-util/nvidia-cuda-sdk (3.2@01/31/11): NVIDIA CUDA Software
Development Kit
[I] dev-util/nvidia-cuda-toolkit (3.2@01/31/11): NVIDIA CUDA Toolkit
[I] media-video/nvidia-settings (260.19.29@01/26/11): NVIDIA Linux X11
Settings Utility
[I] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers (270.41.06@05/11/11): NVIDIA X11 driver
and GLX libraries
Found 4 matches.
mark@c2stable ~ $



Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups

2011-05-18 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 19:05:28 Joost Roeleveld wrote:
 On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:57:55 Peter Humphrey wrote:
  On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:35:11 Mark Knecht wrote:
   What about Flash in web browsers is not working for you since
   updating to OpenRC? Granted, I run only Firefox-3.6.X but I see no
   problem that I recognize on any of my machines.
  
  I upgraded to openrc 10 days ago and didn't notice anything untoward,
  but after a few days Firefox 3.6.17 started reporting that it couldn't
  find Flash. (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.) I tried
  Opera, Chrome and Seamonkey, and they either said the same or just sat
  and looked at me when asked to stream audio.
  
  I tried re-merging adobe-flash and nspluginwrapper a couple of times
  and now the audio streaming runs, but I'm suffering random lockups
  when cycling desktops, and I think I remember reading that Flash does
  sometimes cause lockups. I'm thinking of removing everything flash and
  substituting gnash or something, because I do like to listen to the
  radio.
  
  This is an amd64 box. I have only:
  
  $ cat /etc/portage/package.keywords
  ~app-office/libreoffice-3.3.1
 
 I believe these may be related to having the oficial nvidia drivers.
 When having those, it wants to use hardware acceleration and adobe hasn't
 figured out how to do that properly yet

I realised a second after clicking Send that I hadn't said I'm using the 
nouveau driver. I don't have nvidia-drivers installed.

So it isn't that.

-- 
Rgds
Peter



Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups

2011-05-18 Thread Adam Carter

 I upgraded to openrc 10 days ago and didn't notice anything untoward, but
 after a few days Firefox 3.6.17 started reporting that it couldn't find
 Flash. (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.) I tried Opera,
 Chrome and Seamonkey, and they either said the same or just sat and looked
 at me when asked to stream audio.


I'm amd64 too, but run ~amd64 for flash and Firefox. 10.2 was a real piece
of crap, but 10.3 has just hit portage and it seems fine so far.

On a related note, who's using gnash (which is in portage), or lightspark
(in portage but masked)? Are they drop in replacements for flash? As they're
source I imagine they may be a better alternative for amd64 than the 32 bit
adobe player.


Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups

2011-05-18 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 19 May 2011 01:23:10 Adam Carter wrote:

 10.2 was a real piece of crap, but 10.3 has just hit portage and it seems
 fine so far.

Ah, thanks. I've just installed that version and will see how it goes.

-- 
Rgds
Peter



Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups

2011-05-18 Thread Stroller

On 18/5/2011, at 5:57pm, Peter Humphrey wrote:
 ... (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.) 

Why do you bother at all, then?

Use get_iplayer:
   http://git.infradead.org/get_iplayer.git

Stroller.






Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups

2011-05-18 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 19 May 2011 02:28:21 Stroller wrote:
 On 18/5/2011, at 5:57pm, Peter Humphrey wrote:
  ... (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.)
 
 Why do you bother at all, then?
 
 Use get_iplayer:
http://git.infradead.org/get_iplayer.git

I'd never heard of it, that's why. Many thanks for the pointer.

-- 
Rgds
Peter



Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups

2011-05-18 Thread Stroller

On 19/5/2011, at 2:41am, Peter Humphrey wrote:

 On Thursday 19 May 2011 02:28:21 Stroller wrote:
 On 18/5/2011, at 5:57pm, Peter Humphrey wrote:
 ... (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.)
 
 Why do you bother at all, then?
 
 Use get_iplayer:
   http://git.infradead.org/get_iplayer.git
 
 I'd never heard of it, that's why. Many thanks for the pointer.

It's definitely worth joining the mailing list. It's low-volume, but that's 
where you'll discover updates. The BBC periodically change their SWF validation 
URL and stuff like this. 

get_iplayer is a bit obscenely complicated, but once you set a cron job to run 
`--pvr-queue` and daily email delivery of new programmes it becomes really 
simple just to queue a new show for download.

I tend to use things like `get_iplayer --longhelp | grep search` when I do want 
to do something different.

Make sure you use `--prefs-add` to ensure prioritisation of highest quality 
formats, output directory c.
E.G.: `get_iplayer --nopurge  --prefs-add  get_iplayer --prefs-show`

Stroller.