Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Tinderboxes?

[Viktar Patotski]

Being honest, I also have some rather powerful hardware that is completely
free over the night and weekends. I was also thinking if it's possible to
build some additional QA using this box and "dev-python/ebuildtester". This
is very good initiative and idea. In order to get it implemented it's
better to create GLEP and see what could be done.

Thanks,
Viktar

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 12:23 AM jdm  wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 12:20:38 +0100
> Neil Bothwick  wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 12:17:23 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> >
> > > >"BOINC is an open-source software platform for computing using
> > > >volunteered
> > > >resources."
> > >
> > > Considering the current situation, I switched my systems to
> > > foldingathome.
> >
> > Aren't BOINC doing COViD-19 work too?
> >
> >
>
> Rosetta@Home
>
> Running night and day.
>
> John
>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Tinderboxes?

[jdm]

On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 12:20:38 +0100
Neil Bothwick  wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 12:17:23 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> 
> > >"BOINC is an open-source software platform for computing using
> > >volunteered 
> > >resources."
> > 
> > Considering the current situation, I switched my systems to
> > foldingathome.  
> 
> Aren't BOINC doing COViD-19 work too?
> 
> 

Rosetta@Home

Running night and day.

John

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Tinderboxes?

[Michael Jones]

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:21 PM Steven Lembark  wrote:

>
> Q: You have Docker (or any other lxc) running on something local?
>
> We could use my system here as a sandbox. There should be a decent
> way to have a "gentoo-qc" image for testing: Just snag the image and
> have it "emerge --update" to see what works, or something similar.
>
>
> --
> Steven Lembark  5725 Aylesboro Ave
> Workhorse ComputingPittsburgh PA 15217
> lemb...@wrkhors.com+1 888 359 3508
>


If this question is directed at me, then here's some information:

1) Already installed, and used regularly: systemd-nspawn
2) Docker, or others: Well, whatever tool is needed is only an emerge away

If someone were to add (or, if there is already such a feature and I'm just
not aware...) automatic build log uploads on failure to the make.conf
FEATURES variable, I would also be OK to enable that on my equipment.

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Tinderboxes?

[Steven Lembark]

> Is there any kind of QA tool that normal end users can contribute CPU
> cycles to? Given the massive combinatorial explosion of package
> configurations that can be installed using Gentoo, one might imagine
> that there's some value in simply installing programs with different
> USE combinations and running the self-tests for those programs.

The Perl community has had CPAN::Reporter for a while and a set of
smoke-test machines that run it. Normal Perl installs run "make test"
as part of the normal install, the reporter feeds back test results
to the authors -- I get a daily report of what failed and where. The
smoke-test servers run CPAN::Reporter on whatever gets checked in each
day.

In today's world it's rather easy to set this up with docker, using
Gentoo and some temp volumes (e.g., example using Gentoo for smoke-
testing CPAN: https://www.slideshare.net/lembark/smoking-docker).

Adding a Reporter-ish layer to a new version of Portage or a smoke-
testing option that does a "emerge --install" into a temp layer in 
Docker, reports the outcome,  and discards the results shouldn't be 
all that hard. 

I'd be happy to work on something like this.

-- 
Steven Lembark  5725 Aylesboro Ave
Workhorse ComputingPittsburgh PA 15217
lemb...@wrkhors.com+1 888 359 3508

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Tinderboxes?

[Michael Jones]

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020, 04:46 Peter Humphrey  wrote:

> On Tuesday, 21 April 2020 23:36:21 BST Michael Jones wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 5:02 PM Gregory Rudolph  wrote:
> > > I would also offer up some computing power for that, on VMs, or
> physical
> > > hardware with different configurations. I'd like to be more involved
> with
> > > the Gentoo Development community, but time is rarely ever on my side.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best wishes, gentoo's not dead,
> >
> > Right, I'm sitting on several big-beefy x86_64 machines (They're older
> > machines, but they check out...) that typically are powered off.
> >
> > I would be happy to donate CPU cycles from one of them.
>
> Have you thought of contributing their power to BOINC projects? There's a
> wide
> choice.
>
> https://boinc.berkeley.edu/
>
> "BOINC is an open-source software platform for computing using volunteered
> resources."
>
> --
> Regards,
> Peter.
>


They don't have GPUs (headless servers) so the calculations they can manage
for boinc are going to be on the lower end. If it works similarly to
folding at home.

Not a bad suggestion. But at the moment I'm.more concerned with Gentoo QA

>

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Tinderboxes?

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 12:17:23 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:

> >"BOINC is an open-source software platform for computing using
> >volunteered 
> >resources."  
> 
> Considering the current situation, I switched my systems to
> foldingathome.

Aren't BOINC doing COViD-19 work too?


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Are Cheerios really doughnut seeds?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Tinderboxes?

[J. Roeleveld]

On 22 April 2020 11:46:33 CEST, Peter Humphrey  wrote:
>On Tuesday, 21 April 2020 23:36:21 BST Michael Jones wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 5:02 PM Gregory Rudolph 
>wrote:
>> > I would also offer up some computing power for that, on VMs, or
>physical
>> > hardware with different configurations. I'd like to be more
>involved with
>> > the Gentoo Development community, but time is rarely ever on my
>side.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Best wishes, gentoo's not dead,
>> 
>> Right, I'm sitting on several big-beefy x86_64 machines (They're
>older
>> machines, but they check out...) that typically are powered off.
>> 
>> I would be happy to donate CPU cycles from one of them.
>
>Have you thought of contributing their power to BOINC projects? There's
>a wide 
>choice.
>
>https://boinc.berkeley.edu/
>
>"BOINC is an open-source software platform for computing using
>volunteered 
>resources."

Considering the current situation, I switched my systems to foldingathome.

Any other similar projects?

--
Joost
-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Tinderboxes?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Tuesday, 21 April 2020 23:36:21 BST Michael Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 5:02 PM Gregory Rudolph  wrote:
> > I would also offer up some computing power for that, on VMs, or physical
> > hardware with different configurations. I'd like to be more involved with
> > the Gentoo Development community, but time is rarely ever on my side.
> > 
> > 
> > Best wishes, gentoo's not dead,
> 
> Right, I'm sitting on several big-beefy x86_64 machines (They're older
> machines, but they check out...) that typically are powered off.
> 
> I would be happy to donate CPU cycles from one of them.

Have you thought of contributing their power to BOINC projects? There's a wide 
choice.

https://boinc.berkeley.edu/

"BOINC is an open-source software platform for computing using volunteered 
resources."

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Tinderboxes?

[Consus]

On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 03:51:00PM -0500, Michael Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 3:27 PM Rich Freeman  wrote:
> 
> > There are some QA/CI tools out there that have substantially improved
> > the quality of the distro, and most of them have started out as one
> > dev just creating a tinderbox or whatever and filing bugs when they
> > see problems.  The only real downside to this is if somebody quits we
> > might lose these tools - but there are efforts to host them on infra
> > once we start to treat them as part of the core experience.  When they
> > start out they're just one dev's random contributions and they may or
> > may not persist.
> >
> 
> 
> Speaking of tinderboxes:
> 
> Is there any kind of QA tool that normal end users can contribute CPU
> cycles to? Given the massive combinatorial explosion of package
> configurations that can be installed using Gentoo, one might imagine that
> there's some value in simply installing programs with different USE
> combinations and running the self-tests for those programs.
> 
> What I don't want to do is anything manual. Be it filing bugs, or testing
> things.
> 
> But I'd be happy to run some arbitrary QA tool in a virtual machine or
> chroot nearly indefinitely.

I have power8 to spare :D

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Tinderboxes?

[Michael Jones]

On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 5:02 PM Gregory Rudolph  wrote:

> I would also offer up some computing power for that, on VMs, or physical
> hardware with different configurations. I'd like to be more involved with
> the Gentoo Development community, but time is rarely ever on my side.
>
>
> Best wishes, gentoo's not dead,
>

Right, I'm sitting on several big-beefy x86_64 machines (They're older
machines, but they check out...) that typically are powered off.

I would be happy to donate CPU cycles from one of them.

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Tinderboxes?

[Gregory Rudolph]

I would also offer up some computing power for that, on VMs, or physical
hardware with different configurations. I'd like to be more involved
with the Gentoo Development community, but time is rarely ever on my side.


Best wishes, gentoo's not dead,

Rudi


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On 4/21/20 4:51 PM, Michael Jones wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 3:27 PM Rich Freeman  > wrote: 
>
> There are some QA/CI tools out there that have substantially improved
> the quality of the distro, and most of them have started out as one
> dev just creating a tinderbox or whatever and filing bugs when they
> see problems.  The only real downside to this is if somebody quits we
> might lose these tools - but there are efforts to host them on infra
> once we start to treat them as part of the core experience.  When they
> start out they're just one dev's random contributions and they may or
> may not persist.
>
>
>
> Speaking of tinderboxes:
>
> Is there any kind of QA tool that normal end users can contribute CPU
> cycles to? Given the massive combinatorial explosion of package
> configurations that can be installed using Gentoo, one might imagine
> that there's some value in simply installing programs with different
> USE combinations and running the self-tests for those programs.
>
> What I don't want to do is anything manual. Be it filing bugs, or
> testing things.
>
> But I'd be happy to run some arbitrary QA tool in a virtual machine or
> chroot nearly indefinitely.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Tinderboxes?

[Michael Jones]

On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 3:27 PM Rich Freeman  wrote:

> There are some QA/CI tools out there that have substantially improved
> the quality of the distro, and most of them have started out as one
> dev just creating a tinderbox or whatever and filing bugs when they
> see problems.  The only real downside to this is if somebody quits we
> might lose these tools - but there are efforts to host them on infra
> once we start to treat them as part of the core experience.  When they
> start out they're just one dev's random contributions and they may or
> may not persist.
>


Speaking of tinderboxes:

Is there any kind of QA tool that normal end users can contribute CPU
cycles to? Given the massive combinatorial explosion of package
configurations that can be installed using Gentoo, one might imagine that
there's some value in simply installing programs with different USE
combinations and running the self-tests for those programs.

What I don't want to do is anything manual. Be it filing bugs, or testing
things.

But I'd be happy to run some arbitrary QA tool in a virtual machine or
chroot nearly indefinitely.