Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
On Thursday 28 Mar 2013 14:03:27 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 27 March 2013 18:16:22 Walter Dnes wrote: OK, I'll go with... MAKEOPTS=-j2 --load-average=3 This box is an i5 with four single-threaded CPUs and I limit the average load to 8. Since emerge is running at niceness=3 the desktop remains responsive throughout. I used not to limit the load at all and KDE was still fine to work with. I sometimes think that with modern systems there's no need to impose limits of my own since the kernel can cope well by itself. In fact I'm going to remove the load limit and see how I get on. I've got a first generation i7 and this is what I have set up in my make.conf: MAKEOPTS=-j5 -l12.8 EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n Why is -l set at 12.8 ... ? At some distant point in the past this made sense to me, but I have no idea how I arrived at it. Other than the cooling fan speeding up I have not noticed a problem with any ebuilds. Very rarely I might have used -j1 to complete a failing ebuild, but it was so long ago I can't even recall it. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:36:56 +, Mick wrote: I've got a first generation i7 and this is what I have set up in my make.conf: MAKEOPTS=-j5 -l12.8 EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n n is the default for quiet-build if --jobs is set to 1, or unspecified. But using a higher value will give you faster updates. The MAKEOPTS setting has no effect during the preparation and installation stages of an ebuild, and with --jobs=1 that means your CPU spends a lot of time idling. -- Neil Bothwick This is as bad as it can get - but don't bet on it. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
On 29 March 2013, at 03:36, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: ... I can only imagine he was pointing out that you have a single CPU with four cores in it. You're right, of course. I should have said /cores/. Cores or CPUs.. in this context it's *almost*, __NOT EXACTLY__ same. Which is exactly what was so twitch inducing! Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
On Wednesday 27 March 2013 18:16:22 Walter Dnes wrote: OK, I'll go with... MAKEOPTS=-j2 --load-average=3 This box is an i5 with four single-threaded CPUs and I limit the average load to 8. Since emerge is running at niceness=3 the desktop remains responsive throughout. I used not to limit the load at all and KDE was still fine to work with. I sometimes think that with modern systems there's no need to impose limits of my own since the kernel can cope well by itself. In fact I'm going to remove the load limit and see how I get on. -- Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
On 28 March 2013, at 14:03, Peter Humphrey wrote: ... This box is an i5 with four single-threaded CPUs … Your usage of the term CPUs is making me twitch.
Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
On Thursday 28 March 2013 19:28:47 Stroller wrote: On 28 March 2013, at 14:03, Peter Humphrey wrote: ... This box is an i5 with four single-threaded CPUs … Your usage of the term CPUs is making me twitch. What would you have said? And it wasn't usage, it was use. -- Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
On Friday 29 March 2013 01:24:48 Mateusz Kowalczyk wrote: I can only imagine he was pointing out that you have a single CPU with four cores in it. You're right, of course. I should have said /cores/. -- Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Friday 29 March 2013 01:24:48 Mateusz Kowalczyk wrote: I can only imagine he was pointing out that you have a single CPU with four cores in it. You're right, of course. I should have said /cores/. -- Peter Cores or CPUs.. in this context it's *almost*, __NOT EXACTLY__ same. -- Nilesh Govindrajan http://nileshgr.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 08:34:29AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 23:01:30 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: Running MAKEOPTS=-j1 as default on a multi-core processor seems an awful waste of resources, unless it is needed for something else, in which case I don't run emerge at all. Running around for a few hours trying to replicate an unreplicatable build failure is even more of a waste. That depends on the number of cores you have. On a dual core system this may well be true, although I'd dispute even that. % cat /etc/portage/package.env/* | grep -c -e j4 -e j1 4 Four packages out of the 1730 installed on this computer require special treatment, and all of them build with -j4. Seeing as how even my older machines are dual core, I'll bump it -j2. I'm still not totally clear on load-average. Should I set... MAKEOPTS=-j2 --load-average=2 ...on a dual core machine? -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications
Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
On Tue, Mar 26 2013, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:43:25 +0530, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: It's better to limit the number of jobs to 2*CPUs (or cores) with a load control like --load-average=N where N is number of CPUs. I have two i7-3520Ms. Each has hyperthreading so counts as 2. In particular /proc/cpuinfo describes 4 cpus. Nilesh, Does that mean you recommend EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--jobs --load-average=4 MAKEOPTS=--jobs=8 --load-average=4 In particular I am not sure if your recommendation for load-average applied to EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS as well or if you were just discussing MAKEOPTS. thanks, allan
Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 7:50 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Tue, Mar 26 2013, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:43:25 +0530, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: It's better to limit the number of jobs to 2*CPUs (or cores) with a load control like --load-average=N where N is number of CPUs. I have two i7-3520Ms. Each has hyperthreading so counts as 2. In particular /proc/cpuinfo describes 4 cpus. Nilesh, Does that mean you recommend EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--jobs --load-average=4 MAKEOPTS=--jobs=8 --load-average=4 In particular I am not sure if your recommendation for load-average applied to EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS as well or if you were just discussing MAKEOPTS. thanks, allan It was for MAKEOPTS. If you have a really powerful processor, consider splitting it for emerge options and make options. Would be faster. @Walter, I'm also on a dual core machine, and as per my observation over long emerges, load doesn't cross 2.2. I have also observed that if it is limited to 2, system seems to be under utilized, because make checks the 1 minute average instead of 15 minute average (well, it doesn't make sense otherwise). This could apply to bigger processors too, so if you want full utilization, slightly extrapolate the load average limit. Say by 20-30%. -- Nilesh Govindrajan http://nileshgr.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 08:07:06PM +0530, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote @Walter, I'm also on a dual core machine, and as per my observation over long emerges, load doesn't cross 2.2. I have also observed that if it is limited to 2, system seems to be under utilized, because make checks the 1 minute average instead of 15 minute average (well, it doesn't make sense otherwise). This could apply to bigger processors too, so if you want full utilization, slightly extrapolate the load average limit. Say by 20-30%. OK, I'll go with... MAKEOPTS=-j2 --load-average=3 -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications
Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
Am 26.03.2013 22:40, schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:58:29 +0100, Michael Hampicke wrote: I havent't had any failed builds that were related to the --jobs option. The only exception is when rebuilding my kernel modules. I have to build spl first, then zfs-kmod. But that's because zfs-kmod requires a complete built spl. Interesting, I have --jobs and portage doesn't try t build spl and zfs-kmod in parallel, it always completes spl first. Interesting. Maybe a problem with module-rebuild? I will look into this when I have some spare time. Freshly merged kernel sources, kernel configured, compiled and installed. Then I ran module-rebuild: # module-rebuild rebuild The only difference I can see is that I use emerge @module-rebuild emerge @module-rebuild seems to work just fine on my machine. Thx for the tip, I did not know of this @set
Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 19:54:39 +0100, Michael Hampicke wrote: emerge @module-rebuild seems to work just fine on my machine. Thx for the tip, I did not know of this @set @x11-module-rebuild is worth knowing about too :) -- Neil Bothwick Fine day for a good workout. Steal something heavy. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 23:01:30 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: Running MAKEOPTS=-j1 as default on a multi-core processor seems an awful waste of resources, unless it is needed for something else, in which case I don't run emerge at all. Running around for a few hours trying to replicate an unreplicatable build failure is even more of a waste. That depends on the number of cores you have. On a dual core system this may well be true, although I'd dispute even that. % cat /etc/portage/package.env/* | grep -c -e j4 -e j1 4 Four packages out of the 1730 installed on this computer require special treatment, and all of them build with -j4. -- Neil Bothwick Isn't it a bit unnerving that doctors call what they do practice? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 22:29:00 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: % cat /etc/portage/package.env/libreoffice app-office/libreoffice j4.conf % cat /etc/portage/env/j4.conf MAKEOPTS=-j4 I see. Clever. Do you file bugs when you need to restrict MAKEOPTS? If I need to restrict it to -j1, it is builds with -j4 I consider the bug to be self-inflicted :) Also I am somewhat surprised you can run libreoffice with MAKEOPTS=-j4. I seem to remember that being one of the ones I had to degrade. I try with -j4, if that fails, I try -j1. ISTR OpenOffice.org used to have -j1 forced in the ebuild. Perhaps the time the LO guys spent on code cleanup covered more than removing a ton of German comments to no longer used functions :-O -- Neil Bothwick There are two kinds of people in this world: Those who are good with words, and those who are... erm... thingy signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 22:29:00 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: % cat /etc/portage/package.env/libreoffice app-office/libreoffice j4.conf % cat /etc/portage/env/j4.conf MAKEOPTS=-j4 I see. Clever. Do you file bugs when you need to restrict MAKEOPTS? If I need to restrict it to -j1, it is builds with -j4 I consider the bug to be self-inflicted :) Also I am somewhat surprised you can run libreoffice with MAKEOPTS=-j4. I seem to remember that being one of the ones I had to degrade. I try with -j4, if that fails, I try -j1. ISTR OpenOffice.org used to have -j1 forced in the ebuild. Perhaps the time the LO guys spent on code cleanup covered more than removing a ton of German comments to no longer used functions :-O -- Neil Bothwick There are two kinds of people in this world: Those who are good with words, and those who are... erm... thingy I'd done this experiment sometime ago, and I had sent a mail here as well regarding which load average does make account for. A couple of packages started failing compile and it turns out that they don't work well with the infinite jobs that make --jobs spawns. It's better to limit the number of jobs to 2*CPUs (or cores) with a load control like --load-average=N where N is number of CPUs. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=452942 -- Nilesh Govindrajan http://nileshgr.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:43:25 +0530, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: I'd done this experiment sometime ago, and I had sent a mail here as well regarding which load average does make account for. A couple of packages started failing compile and it turns out that they don't work well with the infinite jobs that make --jobs spawns. It's better to limit the number of jobs to 2*CPUs (or cores) with a load control like --load-average=N where N is number of CPUs. That makes sense, I've altered my settings to % grep jobs /etc/portage/make.conf MAKEOPTS=--jobs 16 --load 10 EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--alphabetical --jobs --load-average 12 and two of the previously troublesome packages, libreoffice and virtualbox, now work with no override. -- Neil Bothwick One difference between a man and a machine is that a machine is quiet when well oiled. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
Am 25.03.2013 23:32, schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 23:27:04 +0100, Michael Hampicke wrote: This is what I use: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--jobs=2 --load-average=6 I havent't had any failed builds that were related to the --jobs option. The only exception is when rebuilding my kernel modules. I have to build spl first, then zfs-kmod. But that's because zfs-kmod requires a complete built spl. Interesting, I have --jobs and portage doesn't try t build spl and zfs-kmod in parallel, it always completes spl first. Interesting. Maybe a problem with module-rebuild? I will look into this when I have some spare time. Freshly merged kernel sources, kernel configured, compiled and installed. Then I ran module-rebuild: # module-rebuild rebuild ** Preparing to merge modules: ** Packages which I will emerge are: =net-misc/r8168-8.035.00-r1 =app-emulation/virtualbox-modules-4.2.10 =x11-drivers/ati-drivers-13.3_beta2 =sys-kernel/spl-0.6.0_rc14-r3 =sys-fs/zfs-kmod-0.6.0_rc14-r5 5 4 3 2 1 Verifying ebuild manifests Running pre-merge checks for x11-drivers/ati-drivers-13.3_beta2 * Determining the location of the kernel source code * Found kernel source directory: * /usr/src/linux * Found kernel object directory: * /lib/modules/3.8.4-gentoo/build * Found sources for kernel version: * 3.8.4-gentoo * Checking for suitable kernel configuration options... [ ok ] Emerging (1 of 5) net-misc/r8168-8.035.00-r1 Emerging (2 of 5) app-emulation/virtualbox-modules-4.2.10 Installing (1 of 5) net-misc/r8168-8.035.00-r1 Emerging (3 of 5) x11-drivers/ati-drivers-13.3_beta2 Emerging (4 of 5) sys-kernel/spl-0.6.0_rc14-r3 Installing (2 of 5) app-emulation/virtualbox-modules-4.2.10 Installing (3 of 5) x11-drivers/ati-drivers-13.3_beta2 Emerging (5 of 5) sys-fs/zfs-kmod-0.6.0_rc14-r5 Failed to emerge sys-fs/zfs-kmod-0.6.0_rc14-r5, Log file: '/var/tmp/portage/sys-fs/zfs-kmod-0.6.0_rc14-r5/temp/build.log' Installing (4 of 5) sys-kernel/spl-0.6.0_rc14-r3 Jobs: 4 of 5 complete, 1 failed Load avg: 1.53, 0.90, 1.05 And the error: checking kernel file name for module symbols... Module.symvers checking spl source directory... Not found configure: error: *** Please make sure the spl devel package for your distribution *** is installed then try again. If that fails you can specify the *** location of the spl source with the '--with-spl=PATH' option.
Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:58:29 +0100, Michael Hampicke wrote: I havent't had any failed builds that were related to the --jobs option. The only exception is when rebuilding my kernel modules. I have to build spl first, then zfs-kmod. But that's because zfs-kmod requires a complete built spl. Interesting, I have --jobs and portage doesn't try t build spl and zfs-kmod in parallel, it always completes spl first. Interesting. Maybe a problem with module-rebuild? I will look into this when I have some spare time. Freshly merged kernel sources, kernel configured, compiled and installed. Then I ran module-rebuild: # module-rebuild rebuild The only difference I can see is that I use emerge @module-rebuild -- Neil Bothwick Stop tagline theft! Copyright your tagline (c) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 16:57:09 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: It is not clear that any time saved by having jobs=5 compensates for having to redo builds. So my question is do people 1. keep jobs=1 in MAKEOPTS 2. have jobs=n in MAKEOPTS but degrade on error as I do 3. have jobs=n and file bugs when it fails. thanks, allan PS I do not change EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS I have --jobs --load-average=12 in EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS and override this for known problematic packages in /etc/portage/package.env. For example: % cat /etc/portage/package.env/libreoffice app-office/libreoffice j4.conf % cat /etc/portage/env/j4.conf MAKEOPTS=-j4 Running MAKEOPTS=-j1 as default on a multi-core processor seems an awful waste of resources, unless it is needed for something else, in which case I don't run emerge at all. -- Neil Bothwick Excuse for the day: daemons did it signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
Am 25.03.2013 21:57, schrieb gottl...@nyu.edu: For a long time I have had in make.conf EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--ask --deep --tree --verbose --jobs --load-average=5 MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5 (for previous processors the 5 was 3). It seems that this configuration fails for several packages (or tickles bugs in their ebuilds/Makefiles). Lately whenever a build fails I change to MAKEOPTS=--jobs=1 and this very often fixes the problem. It is not clear that any time saved by having jobs=5 compensates for having to redo builds. So my question is do people 1. keep jobs=1 in MAKEOPTS 2. have jobs=n in MAKEOPTS but degrade on error as I do 3. have jobs=n and file bugs when it fails. thanks, allan PS I do not change EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS This is what I use: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--jobs=2 --load-average=6 I havent't had any failed builds that were related to the --jobs option. The only exception is when rebuilding my kernel modules. I have to build spl first, then zfs-kmod. But that's because zfs-kmod requires a complete built spl.
Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 23:27:04 +0100, Michael Hampicke wrote: This is what I use: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--jobs=2 --load-average=6 I havent't had any failed builds that were related to the --jobs option. The only exception is when rebuilding my kernel modules. I have to build spl first, then zfs-kmod. But that's because zfs-kmod requires a complete built spl. Interesting, I have --jobs and portage doesn't try t build spl and zfs-kmod in parallel, it always completes spl first. -- Neil Bothwick If the cops arrest a mime, do they tell her she has the right to remain silent? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
On Mon, Mar 25 2013, Michael Hampicke wrote: Am 25.03.2013 21:57, schrieb gottl...@nyu.edu: For a long time I have had in make.conf EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--ask --deep --tree --verbose --jobs --load-average=5 MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5 (for previous processors the 5 was 3). It seems that this configuration fails for several packages (or tickles bugs in their ebuilds/Makefiles). Lately whenever a build fails I change to MAKEOPTS=--jobs=1 and this very often fixes the problem. It is not clear that any time saved by having jobs=5 compensates for having to redo builds. So my question is do people 1. keep jobs=1 in MAKEOPTS 2. have jobs=n in MAKEOPTS but degrade on error as I do 3. have jobs=n and file bugs when it fails. thanks, allan PS I do not change EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS This is what I use: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--jobs=2 --load-average=6 I havent't had any failed builds that were related to the --jobs option. The only exception is when rebuilding my kernel modules. I have to build spl first, then zfs-kmod. But that's because zfs-kmod requires a complete built spl. I don't change EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS either. What I change is MAKEOPTS. That is, I always permit portage to run two emerges in parallel. I am considering telling make to not run different parts of one emerge in parallel. allan
Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
On Mon, Mar 25 2013, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 16:57:09 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: It is not clear that any time saved by having jobs=5 compensates for having to redo builds. So my question is do people 1. keep jobs=1 in MAKEOPTS 2. have jobs=n in MAKEOPTS but degrade on error as I do 3. have jobs=n and file bugs when it fails. thanks, allan PS I do not change EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS I have --jobs --load-average=12 in EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS and override this for known problematic packages in /etc/portage/package.env. For example: % cat /etc/portage/package.env/libreoffice app-office/libreoffice j4.conf % cat /etc/portage/env/j4.conf MAKEOPTS=-j4 I see. Clever. Do you file bugs when you need to restrict MAKEOPTS? Also I am somewhat surprised you can run libreoffice with MAKEOPTS=-j4. I seem to remember that being one of the ones I had to degrade. Thanks for the tip, I will use it. allan
Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: Also I am somewhat surprised you can run libreoffice with MAKEOPTS=-j4. I seem to remember that being one of the ones I had to degrade. Thanks for the tip, I will use it. allan I update libreoffice whenever it needs it and I have this setting: MAKEOPTS=-j16 It hasn't failed me in a long time, except for the time I ran out of space. Maybe things have been fixed so it can build with that setting where it couldn't before? May want to try it sometime when you got time on your hands. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
On Mon, Mar 25 2013, Dale wrote: gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: Also I am somewhat surprised you can run libreoffice with MAKEOPTS=-j4. I seem to remember that being one of the ones I had to degrade. Thanks for the tip, I will use it. allan I update libreoffice whenever it needs it and I have this setting: MAKEOPTS=-j16 It hasn't failed me in a long time, except for the time I ran out of space. Maybe things have been fixed so it can build with that setting where it couldn't before? May want to try it sometime when you got time on your hands. Dale Thanks. My data may well be old. allan
Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 10:25:58PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote Running MAKEOPTS=-j1 as default on a multi-core processor seems an awful waste of resources, unless it is needed for something else, in which case I don't run emerge at all. Running around for a few hours trying to replicate an unreplicatable build failure is even more of a waste. After the first couple of builds that ran into problems, and were cured by -j1, I made it the default on my mcahines. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications
