Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 Hi,
 
 has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new
 version?
 This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they
 go to different slots.
 Even portage-2.2_rc62 is unable to cope with that.
 
 Thanks for a hint,
 Helmut.

I had no problems going form 4.4rc2 to 4.4. Besides removing soprano.

And slots don't mean anything since everything ends straight in /usr. If there 
are blocks, unmerge them.

emerge -C ...

or even faster

pmerge --unmerge ...

pretty easy. You can even unmerge whole sets. Superfast.



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

2010-02-10 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 10 Feb, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 Hi,
 
 has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new
 version?
 This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they
 go to different slots.
 Even portage-2.2_rc62 is unable to cope with that.
 
 Thanks for a hint,
 Helmut.
 
 I had no problems going form 4.4rc2 to 4.4. Besides removing soprano.
 
 And slots don't mean anything since everything ends straight in /usr. If 
 there 
 are blocks, unmerge them.
 
 emerge -C ...
 
 or even faster
 
 pmerge --unmerge ...
 
 pretty easy. You can even unmerge whole sets. Superfast.

Thanks, but what's 'pmerge' ?
Is it in any overlay?

Helmut.

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

2010-02-10 Thread Dale

chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties:

Hi,

has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new
version?
This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they
go to different slots.
Even portage-2.2_rc62 is unable to cope with that.

Thanks for a hint,
Helmut.

   


Well, I'm not really sure.  I synced a bit ago, ran autounmask and it is 
just starting to download and emerge.  So far, it shows the blocks but 
portage didn't stop the process.  It has started at least.


I'm using the same version of portage you are using.  You sure it is not 
something that is not unmasked or something of that nature?  I'd be glad 
to share my unmask and keyword files if you need them.  Off list of 
course, unless the list wouldn't mind me putting them on here to share.  ^-^


Dale

:-)  :-)

P. S.  Total: 275 packages (14 upgrades, 27 new, 234 in new slots, 245 
uninstalls), Size of downloads: 726,272 kB

Conflict: 499 blocks

Sure am glad I got DSL now.  lol  That would take me a week on dial-up.



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 On 10 Feb, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
  Hi,
  
  has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new
  version?
  This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they
  go to different slots.
  Even portage-2.2_rc62 is unable to cope with that.
  
  Thanks for a hint,
  Helmut.
  
  I had no problems going form 4.4rc2 to 4.4. Besides removing soprano.
  
  And slots don't mean anything since everything ends straight in /usr. If
  there are blocks, unmerge them.
  
  emerge -C ...
  
  or even faster
  
  pmerge --unmerge ...
  
  pretty easy. You can even unmerge whole sets. Superfast.
 
 Thanks, but what's 'pmerge' ?
 Is it in any overlay?
 
 Helmut.

pkgcore - in a lot of cases a lot faster than portage. Especially unmerging 
stuff.



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

2010-02-10 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 10 Feb, Dale wrote:
 chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties:
 Hi,

 has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new
 version?
 This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they
 go to different slots.
 Even portage-2.2_rc62 is unable to cope with that.

 Thanks for a hint,
 Helmut.


 
 Well, I'm not really sure.  I synced a bit ago, ran autounmask and it is 
 just starting to download and emerge.  So far, it shows the blocks but 
 portage didn't stop the process.  It has started at least.
 
 I'm using the same version of portage you are using.  You sure it is not 
 something that is not unmasked or something of that nature?  I'd be glad 
 to share my unmask and keyword files if you need them.  Off list of 
 course, unless the list wouldn't mind me putting them on here to share.  ^-^
 
 Dale
 
 :-)  :-)
 
 P. S.  Total: 275 packages (14 upgrades, 27 new, 234 in new slots, 245 
 uninstalls), Size of downloads: 726,272 kB
 Conflict: 499 blocks
 
 Sure am glad I got DSL now.  lol  That would take me a week on dial-up.

Thanks Dale,
but what should I use autounmask for? 
No version of kde is masked here.

Helmut.

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

2010-02-10 Thread Dale

chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties:

On 10 Feb, Dale wrote:
   

chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties:
 

Hi,

has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new
version?
This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they
go to different slots.
Even portage-2.2_rc62 is unable to cope with that.

Thanks for a hint,
Helmut.


   

Well, I'm not really sure.  I synced a bit ago, ran autounmask and it is
just starting to download and emerge.  So far, it shows the blocks but
portage didn't stop the process.  It has started at least.

I'm using the same version of portage you are using.  You sure it is not
something that is not unmasked or something of that nature?  I'd be glad
to share my unmask and keyword files if you need them.  Off list of
course, unless the list wouldn't mind me putting them on here to share.  ^-^

Dale

:-)  :-)

P. S.  Total: 275 packages (14 upgrades, 27 new, 234 in new slots, 245
uninstalls), Size of downloads: 726,272 kB
Conflict: 499 blocks

Sure am glad I got DSL now.  lol  That would take me a week on dial-up.
 

Thanks Dale,
but what should I use autounmask for?
No version of kde is masked here.

Helmut.

   


At first portage gave me errors about things being masked/keyworded.  
So, I figured out it was trying to upgrade the kde-meta and used 
autounmask to make sure they were all available.  After that, it just 
started updating.  So far, no problems.


Autounmask did add a lot of packages to package.keywords.  I guess it 
did it for a reason since portage was complaining before I ran 
autounmask but isn't complaining now.  I'm on package 6 at the moment.


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

2010-02-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 10 February 2010 10:36:35 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 Hi,
 
 has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new
 version?
 This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they
 go to different slots.
 Even portage-2.2_rc62 is unable to cope with that.


Remove ALL version-specific information for kde entries from world.
Don't mix and match -meta packages and sets.
Beware of kde-misc entries - often times they have depends on the old SLOT and 
pull in conflicts. These ebuilds are not as maintained as the kdebase ones, 
same with the apps themselves.

I've just upgraded to 4.4 here and fixing the above issues put portage in a 
position where it could automagically do everything correctly and deal with 
all blockers


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

2010-02-10 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 10 Feb, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Wednesday 10 February 2010 10:36:35 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 Hi,
 
 has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new
 version?
 This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they
 go to different slots.
 Even portage-2.2_rc62 is unable to cope with that.
 
 
 Remove ALL version-specific information for kde entries from world.

There are no specific version of kde in world

 Don't mix and match -meta packages and sets.

What do you mean by that? I don't think I have any kde-sets here

# emerge --list-sets
downgrade
installed
live-rebuild
module-rebuild
preserved-rebuild
security
selected
system
unavailable
world

 Beware of kde-misc entries - often times they have depends on the old SLOT 
 and 
 pull in conflicts. These ebuilds are not as maintained as the kdebase ones, 
 same with the apps themselves.
 

Thanks,
Helmut.

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

2010-02-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 10 February 2010 12:32:11 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 On 10 Feb, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Wednesday 10 February 2010 10:36:35 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
  Hi,
  
  has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new
  version?
  This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they
  go to different slots.
  Even portage-2.2_rc62 is unable to cope with that.
  
  Remove ALL version-specific information for kde entries from world.
 
 There are no specific version of kde in world
 
  Don't mix and match -meta packages and sets.
 
 What do you mean by that? I don't think I have any kde-sets here
 
 # emerge --list-sets
 downgrade
 installed
 live-rebuild
 module-rebuild
 preserved-rebuild
 security
 selected
 system
 unavailable
 world
 
  Beware of kde-misc entries - often times they have depends on the old
  SLOT and pull in conflicts. These ebuilds are not as maintained as the
  kdebase ones, same with the apps themselves.

In general terms, portage knows you have package A that must stay at v4.3.5 
and you want to upgrade it (or more likely something that depends on it) to 
v4.4. It's telling you I can't/won't do that.

Please post the portage output for the blockers that portage won't resolve 
(not everything, that will be about 5000 lines) plus the command you are 
running if it's not emerge -avuND world.

Also, are you aware that as of yesterday, KDE-4.4 was still hard masked in 
$PORTDIR/profiles/package.mask? It may have been removed meanwhile since my 
last sync. And what do you have related to kde in your own 
/etc/portage/package* ?


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

2010-02-10 Thread Dale

chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties:

Also, are you aware that as of yesterday, KDE-4.4 was still hard masked in
$PORTDIR/profiles/package.mask? It may have been removed meanwhile since my
last sync.

   


Maybe some of us synced in the middle of a update then?  I get this:

r...@smoker / # equery list -p kde-meta
[ Searching for package 'kde-meta' in all categories among: ]
 * installed packages
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kde-meta-3.5.10 (3.5)
[I--] [ ~] kde-base/kde-meta-4.3.5 (4.3)
 * Portage tree (/usr/portage)
[-P-] [  ] kde-base/kde-meta-4.3.3 (4.3)
[-P-] [ ~] kde-base/kde-meta-4.3.4 (4.3)
[-P-] [ ~] kde-base/kde-meta-4.4.0 (4.4)
r...@smoker / #

That explains why autounmask added things to package.keyword but not 
unmask here.  They are still keyworded but not masked.  This makes since 
on my rig at least.


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

2010-02-10 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Helmut Jarausch
jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
 Hi,

 has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new
 version?
 This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they
 go to different slots.
 Even portage-2.2_rc62 is unable to cope with that.

I use the kde overlay and the unmask/keywords files it contains. The
only thing I had to do manually was unmask newest version of libmsn.
After that it all emerged in one try.



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

2010-02-10 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2010 schrieb Helmut Jarausch:
 Hi,

 has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new
 version?
 This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they
 go to different slots.
 Even portage-2.2_rc62 is unable to cope with that.

 Thanks for a hint,
 Helmut.

Well I only had some issues with packages that didn't have a 4.4 version, like 
soliduiserver. So I guessed they don't need that anymore and a removed it. 
Turned out it was a hard block because I had it in world.
-- 
Gruß | Greetings | Qapla'
Why did the tachyon cross the road?
Because it was on the other side.


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
 Am Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2010 schrieb Helmut Jarausch:
  Hi,
  
  has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new
  version?
  This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they
  go to different slots.
  Even portage-2.2_rc62 is unable to cope with that.
  
  Thanks for a hint,
  Helmut.
 
 Well I only had some issues with packages that didn't have a 4.4 version,
 like soliduiserver. So I guessed they don't need that anymore and a
 removed it. Turned out it was a hard block because I had it in world.

so? set -virtuoso in make.conf.

neither soprano nor kdelibs hard-depend on it.



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

2010-02-10 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2010 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann:

  Well I only had some issues with packages that didn't have a 4.4 version,
  like soliduiserver. So I guessed they don't need that anymore and a
  removed it. Turned out it was a hard block because I had it in world.

 so? set -virtuoso in make.conf.

 neither soprano nor kdelibs hard-depend on it.

That was the first I tried, but then portage told me that something, it must 
have been kdelibs, depended on soprano[dbus,raptor,redland,virtuoso]. So next 
I tried with -semantic-desktop, but that, too, Hm... now it doesn’t anymore. 
I don’t know what changed it, perhaps the cleanup of old 4.3 packages. :-/

Well, whatever. I let it download over night and install during the afternoon 
while I was out. Now it’s too late to ponder about it any further. Who knows, 
perhaps I can even befriend with all that stuff.
-- 
Gruß | Greetings | Qapla'
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