Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail editor freezes
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:42 on Saturday 09 October 2010, Daniel D Jones did opine thusly: On Saturday, October 09, 2010 14:38:16 Yohan Pereira wrote: thats odd im typing this from kmail. whavt version? 1.13.5 I've been using Kmail for years and I don't believe there was an upgrade just before this started happening. I suspect that it's something outside Kmail itself, some service it's trying to access, but I don't know what it would be. Another clue is that it does a very similar thing when I press the Send button. It freezes for about ten to fifteen seconds before sending. I agree it's likely caused by some network resource, I get similar things happening to me (to use imap on exchange and it's addressbook from home I have to run ssh tunnels through to the exchange machines. It's *easy* to forget to run the script that sets them up) Look for things like imap stores not available and the hard one to track down is accessing addressbooks using LDAP. The passwords are not stored in kwallet! Check your various KResources configs and grep for likely passwords in ~/.kde4/share/config -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail editor freezes
On Sunday 10 October 2010 08:06:08 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:42 on Saturday 09 October 2010, Daniel D Jones did opine thusly: On Saturday, October 09, 2010 14:38:16 Yohan Pereira wrote: thats odd im typing this from kmail. whavt version? 1.13.5 I've been using Kmail for years and I don't believe there was an upgrade just before this started happening. I suspect that it's something outside Kmail itself, some service it's trying to access, but I don't know what it would be. Another clue is that it does a very similar thing when I press the Send button. It freezes for about ten to fifteen seconds before sending. I agree it's likely caused by some network resource, I get similar things happening to me (to use imap on exchange and it's addressbook from home I have to run ssh tunnels through to the exchange machines. It's *easy* to forget to run the script that sets them up) Look for things like imap stores not available and the hard one to track down is accessing addressbooks using LDAP. The passwords are not stored in kwallet! Check your various KResources configs and grep for likely passwords in ~/.kde4/share/config No answers to your questions, but I can confirm that I occasionally get the same symptoms, i.e. during composing a new message or some times when I click on a new message to read it. It takes up to 10-15 seconds before it becomes responsive again. If I close the message composing window while waiting for the darn thing to unfreeze, the whole application crashes after the waiting is over. Starting it up does not restore the composer and any text I had written is lost. Unlike you I do not use mysql, but sqlite. So I think that this problem is not related to the database. Things that might cause it, although I cannot confirm any of these as definite, are kmail trying to connect to a mail server which for network or other reasons is unresponsive; trying to refresh CRL or gpg from pgp or smime key servers; compressing some of its own maildir folders. I'm currently running stable: $ kmail -v Qt: 4.6.2 KDE Development Platform: 4.4.5 (KDE 4.4.5) KMail: 1.13.5 -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail editor freezes
On Saturday 09 October 2010 22:36:42 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 09 October 2010 19:22:57 Daniel D Jones wrote: Any help on tracking down the cause is greatly appreciated. That's interesting. Here it's the other way round: on first logging-in to the desktop, with kmail saved as an application from the previous session, kmail takes for ever to get through its startup sequence, which includes fetching new e-mails via POP3. Since the upgrade to KDE 4.5.2 last week this problem might have been fixed, though it's early days yet. -- Rgds Peter. Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.
Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail editor freezes
Apparently, though unproven, at 16:10 on Sunday 10 October 2010, Daniel D Jones did opine thusly: On Sunday, October 10, 2010 03:06:08 Alan McKinnon wrote: Another clue is that it does a very similar thing when I press the Send button. It freezes for about ten to fifteen seconds before sending. I agree it's likely caused by some network resource, I get similar things happening to me (to use imap on exchange and it's addressbook from home I have to run ssh tunnels through to the exchange machines. It's *easy* to forget to run the script that sets them up) Look for things like imap stores not available and the hard one to track down is accessing addressbooks using LDAP. The passwords are not stored in kwallet! Check your various KResources configs and grep for likely passwords in ~/.kde4/share/config I'm still looking and investigating. No luck yet. It doesn't appear to be a network problem for a couple of reasons. I run my own mail server and it's sitting right here on my local subnet. There's no problem communicating with it on either port 25 or 110. (I don't use imap, so that isn't involved.) Kmail itself doesn't exhibit any symptoms when I'm reading mail. It's only when I have Composer open. I'm not using LDAP or any sort of external addressbook, and I'm not sure why Composer would be accessing the addressbook while I'm in the middle of writing an email. I can see it happening on either opening or closing Composer, but not mid sentence. (Which, of course, doesn't mean it isn't happening. I'm just not sure why it would.) The only external resource I can think of that Composer would be accessing as I'm writing is the spellchecker and turning off automatic (ie inline) spellchecking doesn't mitigate the issue. Is anyone using or tried to use an external editor with Kmail recently? If not, would someone be willing to take a moment and attempt to do so and see if it works correctly for you? This is starting to look like strace -p is your good friend. You'll get heaps of output most likely but at least there's a good chance we can pin down what resource it's trying to access. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail editor freezes
thats odd im typing this from kmail. whavt version? -- - Yohan Pereira.
Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail editor freezes
On Saturday 09 October 2010 19:22:57 Daniel D Jones wrote: Any help on tracking down the cause is greatly appreciated. That's interesting. Here it's the other way round: on first logging-in to the desktop, with kmail saved as an application from the previous session, kmail takes for ever to get through its startup sequence, which includes fetching new e-mails via POP3. It's usually a few minutes before I can do anything with it. After that it's as responsive as any other program, and the composer is too. I've had the same problem with all recent versions as far as I remember; the current version here is kmail 1.13.5 in KDE 4.5.2. (Not wishing to hijack your thread...) I doubt it's your problem, but I wonder if mine is the dreaded IPv6 lookup problem raising its ugly head again. -- Rgds Peter. Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.
