Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror and mp3

2009-08-09 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag 09 August 2009 21:23:27 schrieb Mick:

 I am looking at saving the mp3 files presented in Konqueror when looking at
 the contents of an audio CD.  Although I can play/copy .wav files fine, I
 cannot play .mp3 files shown in Konqueror.  All I get is a hiss no matter
 which player I use.

What konqueror presents is just a virtual view. You cannot play anything else 
than the .wav's from a CD, because they're the only ones representing the real 
data.

If you have the correct encoders installed, copying the other files to some 
other place will encode the selected audio track(s) and store the result in 
the destination directory.

 What do I need to do to be able to copy mp3s out of a CD?

The correct encoders. See the audio cd section in KDE's system settings.

HTH...

Dirk


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Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror and mp3

2009-08-09 Thread Mick
On Sunday 09 August 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
 Am Sonntag 09 August 2009 21:23:27 schrieb Mick:
  I am looking at saving the mp3 files presented in Konqueror when looking
  at the contents of an audio CD.  Although I can play/copy .wav files
  fine, I cannot play .mp3 files shown in Konqueror.  All I get is a hiss
  no matter which player I use.

 What konqueror presents is just a virtual view. You cannot play anything
 else than the .wav's from a CD, because they're the only ones representing
 the real data.

Oh, I see.  When I copy an mp3 file I get a file which is 4.5MB large, so I 
thought that it has real music in it.

 If you have the correct encoders installed, copying the other files to some
 other place will encode the selected audio track(s) and store the result in
 the destination directory.

  What do I need to do to be able to copy mp3s out of a CD?

 The correct encoders. See the audio cd section in KDE's system settings.

This is what I can see under kcontrol/audiocd:

http://gentoo.michaelkintzios.fastmail.fm/audioCD.png

I guess these settings are not enough on their own.  What else should I add?  
How do I specify the necessary encoders?

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror and mp3

2009-08-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 09 August 2009, Mick wrote:
 On Sunday 09 August 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
  Am Sonntag 09 August 2009 21:23:27 schrieb Mick:
   I am looking at saving the mp3 files presented in Konqueror when
   looking at the contents of an audio CD.  Although I can play/copy .wav
   files fine, I cannot play .mp3 files shown in Konqueror.  All I get is
   a hiss no matter which player I use.
 
  What konqueror presents is just a virtual view. You cannot play anything
  else than the .wav's from a CD, because they're the only ones
  representing the real data.

 Oh, I see.  When I copy an mp3 file I get a file which is 4.5MB large, so I
 thought that it has real music in it.

  If you have the correct encoders installed, copying the other files to
  some other place will encode the selected audio track(s) and store the
  result in the destination directory.
 
   What do I need to do to be able to copy mp3s out of a CD?
 
  The correct encoders. See the audio cd section in KDE's system settings.

 This is what I can see under kcontrol/audiocd:

 http://gentoo.michaelkintzios.fastmail.fm/audioCD.png

 I guess these settings are not enough on their own.  What else should I
 add? How do I specify the necessary encoders?

use constant bitrate, not vbr, just copy the mp3 somewhere and you will be 
fine.



Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror and mp3

2009-08-09 Thread Stroller


On 9 Aug 2009, at 21:00, Mick wrote:


On Sunday 09 August 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:

Am Sonntag 09 August 2009 21:23:27 schrieb Mick:
I am looking at saving the mp3 files presented in Konqueror when  
looking

at the contents of an audio CD.  Although I can play/copy .wav files
fine, I cannot play .mp3 files shown in Konqueror.  All I get is a  
hiss

no matter which player I use.


What konqueror presents is just a virtual view. You cannot play  
anything
else than the .wav's from a CD, because they're the only ones  
representing

the real data.


Oh, I see.  When I copy an mp3 file I get a file which is 4.5MB  
large, so I

thought that it has real music in it.


I believe that once you've dragged  dropped one of these somewhere -  
resulting in a .mp3 file of about that size - they should indeed be  
playable. It sounds like something's broken.


Are you using  KDE 3.5.10?

I think your problem may be described in this article:
http://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/200907/page04.html

   But, if you want to rip MP3 files, you will have some extra work  
to do

   to get them to come out right. Due to a bug that crept into KDE
   3.5.10, MP3s do not encode properly. Without the fix, all your  
MP3s

   will be nothing more than static-filled white noise.

I no longer consider MP3 as a particularly good format for compressed  
audio. You might want to consider the Ogg Vorbis option, although on  
other platforms you may need to install software to play this format.


Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror and mp3

2009-08-09 Thread Mick
On Sunday 09 August 2009, Stroller wrote:
 On 9 Aug 2009, at 21:00, Mick wrote:
  On Sunday 09 August 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
  Am Sonntag 09 August 2009 21:23:27 schrieb Mick:
  I am looking at saving the mp3 files presented in Konqueror when
  looking
  at the contents of an audio CD.  Although I can play/copy .wav files
  fine, I cannot play .mp3 files shown in Konqueror.  All I get is a
  hiss
  no matter which player I use.
 
  What konqueror presents is just a virtual view. You cannot play
  anything
  else than the .wav's from a CD, because they're the only ones
  representing
  the real data.
 
  Oh, I see.  When I copy an mp3 file I get a file which is 4.5MB
  large, so I
  thought that it has real music in it.

 I believe that once you've dragged  dropped one of these somewhere -
 resulting in a .mp3 file of about that size - they should indeed be
 playable. It sounds like something's broken.

 Are you using  KDE 3.5.10?

 I think your problem may be described in this article:
 http://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/200907/page04.html

 But, if you want to rip MP3 files, you will have some extra work
 to do
 to get them to come out right. Due to a bug that crept into KDE
 3.5.10, MP3s do not encode properly. Without the fix, all your
 MP3s
 will be nothing more than static-filled white noise.

 I no longer consider MP3 as a particularly good format for compressed
 audio. You might want to consider the Ogg Vorbis option, although on
 other platforms you may need to install software to play this format.

Thank you both.  It seems that this is indeed a bug for KDE-3.5.10.  :-(

I tried both solutions and neither works.  The former creates a 4.5MB mp3 file 
which is full of white noise, the latter described in the article creates an 
empty file 0MB.

Is there another solution to this?  I need mp3 because the file will be 
ultimately played on a vanilla WinXP PC.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror and mp3

2009-08-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 09 August 2009, Mick wrote:
 On Sunday 09 August 2009, Stroller wrote:
  On 9 Aug 2009, at 21:00, Mick wrote:
   On Sunday 09 August 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
   Am Sonntag 09 August 2009 21:23:27 schrieb Mick:
   I am looking at saving the mp3 files presented in Konqueror when
   looking
   at the contents of an audio CD.  Although I can play/copy .wav files
   fine, I cannot play .mp3 files shown in Konqueror.  All I get is a
   hiss
   no matter which player I use.
  
   What konqueror presents is just a virtual view. You cannot play
   anything
   else than the .wav's from a CD, because they're the only ones
   representing
   the real data.
  
   Oh, I see.  When I copy an mp3 file I get a file which is 4.5MB
   large, so I
   thought that it has real music in it.
 
  I believe that once you've dragged  dropped one of these somewhere -
  resulting in a .mp3 file of about that size - they should indeed be
  playable. It sounds like something's broken.
 
  Are you using  KDE 3.5.10?
 
  I think your problem may be described in this article:
  http://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/200907/page04.html
 
  But, if you want to rip MP3 files, you will have some extra work
  to do
  to get them to come out right. Due to a bug that crept into KDE
  3.5.10, MP3s do not encode properly. Without the fix, all your
  MP3s
  will be nothing more than static-filled white noise.
 
  I no longer consider MP3 as a particularly good format for compressed
  audio. You might want to consider the Ogg Vorbis option, although on
  other platforms you may need to install software to play this format.

 Thank you both.  It seems that this is indeed a bug for KDE-3.5.10.  :-(

 I tried both solutions and neither works.  The former creates a 4.5MB mp3
 file which is full of white noise, the latter described in the article
 creates an empty file 0MB.

 Is there another solution to this?  I need mp3 because the file will be
 ultimately played on a vanilla WinXP PC.

I have started using flacs - because they can easily be trancoded into mp3 or 
ogg. flacs are lossless so they are good intermediate format. Rip to flac, 
store 
cd away and encode to whatever you want/need whenever you want/need to.



Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror and mp3

2009-08-09 Thread Mick
On Sunday 09 August 2009, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Sonntag 09 August 2009, Mick wrote:

  Is there another solution to this?  I need mp3 because the file will be
  ultimately played on a vanilla WinXP PC.

 I have started using flacs - because they can easily be trancoded into mp3
 or ogg. flacs are lossless so they are good intermediate format. Rip to
 flac, store cd away and encode to whatever you want/need whenever you
 want/need to.

Thanks for this.  I ended up copying over to my drive the flac file and then 
running:

for file in *.flac; do $(flac -cd $file | lame -h - ${file%.flac}.mp3); 
done

Not sure if the bitrate is appropriate.  As is it was converted to a 48KB mp3 
file at a bitrate of 128kbps.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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