Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out? + question
On 28/11/05, Ognjen Bezanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to me.. linux in general has always ran slow if the net connection goes out. It might be constantly trying to access the internet. Kinda like the a cell phones battery dies alot faster when it cant connect to a tower. It just keeps trying til it gets something or the phone dies. I had a problem of slowness a while ago and it was because my loopback interface was missing. Something to check. Ben -- Ben Edwards - Exeter Bristol, UK, England WARNING:This email contained partisan views - don't ever accuse me of using the veneer of objectivity If you have a problem emailing me use http://www.gurtlush.org.uk/profiles.php?uid=4 (email address this email is sent from may be defunct) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out? + question
Michael Sullivan wrote: can you ping via name to other machines on your lan? Yes I can. maybe put some of your local machines into your /etc/hosts file, so it won't attempt to do dns lookups on them. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out? + question
On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 13:58 -0500, Billy Holmes wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: can you ping via name to other machines on your lan? Yes I can. maybe put some of your local machines into your /etc/hosts file, so it won't attempt to do dns lookups on them. Every computer in my network is listed in /etc/hosts, and the /etc/hosts file is then copied to every computer in the network. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out? + question
Dale wrote: Danyelle Gragsone wrote: to me.. linux in general has always ran slow if the net connection goes out. It might be constantly trying to access the internet. Kinda like the a cell phones battery dies alot faster when it cant connect to a tower. It just keeps trying til it gets something or the phone dies. That's funny. I'm on dial-up and I see no difference at all. I even run ntp which sets my clock and keeps it on track for me and there is no difference when I am connected and when I am not. Yes, I have three network cards installed and running all the time. I do have a local LAN here with three other rigs connected. This is not making sense. If what you guys are saying is correct, people on dial-up can't use Linux. That's not right. Dale :-) I have a gentoo system (Actually I have four of them) and they dont experience a slowdown when my internet connection goes down (which it invariably does because my ISP reboots its servers every 28 days as a policy, thereby disconnecting me ). Chances are its a particular program thats trying to connect to the net and failing, thereby using cycles in new attempts. While we are at it, does there exist a program that can monitor my internet connection and run a script if the net is down (like a restart script)? I dont want to have to come home and ssh in to restart everytime my ISP reboots its M$ Servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out? + question
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:43:01 + Ognjen Bezanov wrote: I have a gentoo system (Actually I have four of them) and they dont experience a slowdown when my internet connection goes down (which it invariably does because my ISP reboots its servers every 28 days as a policy, thereby disconnecting me ). Chances are its a particular program thats trying to connect to the net and failing, thereby using cycles in new attempts. While we are at it, does there exist a program that can monitor my internet connection and run a script if the net is down (like a restart script)? I dont want to have to come home and ssh in to restart everytime my ISP reboots its M$ Servers. many programs do a dns lookup on connection, to see who is trying to connect. It should be managed on your lan with /etc/hosts if you have it sorted properly. can you ping via name to other machines on your lan? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out? + question
On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 12:24 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:43:01 + Ognjen Bezanov wrote: I have a gentoo system (Actually I have four of them) and they dont experience a slowdown when my internet connection goes down (which it invariably does because my ISP reboots its servers every 28 days as a policy, thereby disconnecting me ). Chances are its a particular program thats trying to connect to the net and failing, thereby using cycles in new attempts. While we are at it, does there exist a program that can monitor my internet connection and run a script if the net is down (like a restart script)? I dont want to have to come home and ssh in to restart everytime my ISP reboots its M$ Servers. many programs do a dns lookup on connection, to see who is trying to connect. It should be managed on your lan with /etc/hosts if you have it sorted properly. can you ping via name to other machines on your lan? Yes I can. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out? + question
Ognjen Bezanov wrote: I dont want to have to come home and ssh in to restart everytime my ISP reboots its M$ Servers. It's funny that you say that. One of the first things I asked my ISP when I was looking for one, what OS do you use? If they didn't use *nix, I was going to keep looking. It is very rare that I have any trouble either. Another thing I like about mine is the service. When I call them, I get a live human being that answers the phone. They don't have a automated thingy, just people. I have talked to the owner once and have actually had the guys that run the network to call me for help. I am the only one that runs Linux with the logs turned on and it gives them a lot of info if they are having any connection problems. I guess windoze doesn't. They call me and get me to connect and see what happens. If I can't connect, I call them back and read them the log files and the boo boo message. They had the login/password file get borked once. They said it was there but it was messed up. They took the one from their back-ups and up it went. We were surfing again. :) Ever consider switching ISPs or are you stuck with the one you have? I'll switch for DSL but that is about it. Dial-up sucks, 26K is all I get here. Dale :) :) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out? + question
On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 18:11 -0600, Dale wrote: Ognjen Bezanov wrote: I dont want to have to come home and ssh in to restart everytime my ISP reboots its M$ Servers. It's funny that you say that. One of the first things I asked my ISP when I was looking for one, what OS do you use? If they didn't use *nix, I was going to keep looking. It is very rare that I have any trouble either. Another thing I like about mine is the service. When I call them, I get a live human being that answers the phone. They don't have a automated thingy, just people. I have talked to the owner once and have actually had the guys that run the network to call me for help. I am the only one that runs Linux with the logs turned on and it gives them a lot of info if they are having any connection problems. I guess windoze doesn't. They call me and get me to connect and see what happens. If I can't connect, I call them back and read them the log files and the boo boo message. They had the login/password file get borked once. They said it was there but it was messed up. They took the one from their back-ups and up it went. We were surfing again. :) Ever consider switching ISPs or are you stuck with the one you have? I'll switch for DSL but that is about it. Dial-up sucks, 26K is all I get here. Dale :) :) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. My wife says that we can try SBC DSL after the new year starts (when we can afford it.) I just hope that I can get everything converted over to PPP -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out? + question
On Monday 28 November 2005 17:58, Michael Sullivan wrote: On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 12:24 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:43:01 + Ognjen Bezanov wrote: I have a gentoo system (Actually I have four of them) and they dont experience a slowdown when my internet connection goes down (which it invariably does because my ISP reboots its servers every 28 days as a policy, thereby disconnecting me ). Chances are its a particular program thats trying to connect to the net and failing, thereby using cycles in new attempts. While we are at it, does there exist a program that can monitor my internet connection and run a script if the net is down (like a restart script)? I dont want to have to come home and ssh in to restart everytime my ISP reboots its M$ Servers. ifplugd works, at least at the ethernet level. many programs do a dns lookup on connection, to see who is trying to connect. It should be managed on your lan with /etc/hosts if you have it sorted properly. can you ping via name to other machines on your lan? Yes I can. -- John Jolet Your On-Demand IT Department 512-762-0729 www.jolet.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out? + question
Michael Sullivan wrote: On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 18:11 -0600, Dale wrote: My wife says that we can try SBC DSL after the new year starts (when we can afford it.) I just hope that I can get everything converted over to PPP I !think! they use windoze too. Aren't they the same as Bell South? I know Bell South uses windoze because it is a nightmare paying my bill online. Since I am on a slow dial-up their servers keep timing out on me. I notice windoze does this a lot more *nix servers do. Later Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
