Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 6.1.53-gentoo-r1 kernel not booting

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 13:55:05 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>> Actually, I went to the latest version in the tree, 6.5, and got the
>> message it likely won't work.  I went back to a version the message said
>> should work, 6.1.  It still doesn't work.  It may be the driver, it may
>> not be. 
> What does /var/log/Xorg.0.log tell you?
>
>


I was in a hurry so I didn't look.  When I got time, I'll reboot and
save the logs so I can see them and look for clues or if I can't see
anything, post to see if someone else does. 

It could be that my particular card has a issue with that driver version
and kernel version.  Maybe a update later will fix that.  I dunno.  I
just went back to my older kernel and got my system up and running
again.  I got quite a bit going on at the moment so it may be a while
before I get back around to it.  I been trying to update to a newer
kernel for over a year now.  o_O  Always something. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 6.1.53-gentoo-r1 kernel not booting

[Neil Bothwick]

On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 13:55:05 -0500, Dale wrote:

> Actually, I went to the latest version in the tree, 6.5, and got the
> message it likely won't work.  I went back to a version the message said
> should work, 6.1.  It still doesn't work.  It may be the driver, it may
> not be. 

What does /var/log/Xorg.0.log tell you?


-- 
Neil Bothwick

What do you have when you have six lawyers buried up to their necks in
sand? Not enough sand.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 6.1.53-gentoo-r1 kernel not booting

[Dale]

Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 9:18 AM Dale  > wrote:
> 
> >
> > My first kernel, emerge prechecks warned that it wasn't and might or
> might not work.  So, I went back to a version that it claims is
> supported.  I have to say tho, the nvidia site wasn't very helpful. 
> The messages when emerging nvidia-drivers was a lot more help.  That
> said, it does load the drivers.  They are listed with lsmod.  Given
> the kernel is on my main rig, it's harder to test since I don't reboot
> often.  At some point, I may start a thread about it if a update or
> something doesn't fix it.  After all, current kernel is working just
> fine.
> >
> > I just thought it worthwhile to follow this problem since it might
> help or give clues on things to look into.  Might be related, might not.
> >
> Hi Dale,
>
> So assuming I understand your situation, you built nvidia-drivers to
> work with 
> 6.1.55 - but got no GUI. The build told you it might not work and it
> didn't.
>
> You went back to an earlier kernel and it does work.
>
> I don't think you shared what NVidia card is in this machine, and
> I don't think you shared what version of NVidia drivers worked
> with the old kernel and what version didn't work with the new kernel?
>
> - Mark


Actually, I went to the latest version in the tree, 6.5, and got the
message it likely won't work.  I went back to a version the message said
should work, 6.1.  It still doesn't work.  It may be the driver, it may
not be.  I could have left something new out in the kernel that it needs
but I didn't know it.  It could be any number of things.  At some point
when I got time to mess with it, I'm going to boot into the kernel that
doesn't work and save the log files, sddm, Xorg etc.  Then maybe it will
have a clue as to the problem. 

Until then I just want to sort of follow this to see if it might help
with my problem.  If not, oh well. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

P. S.  My pack of drives arrived early.  Running SMART test on them
now.  :-D

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 6.1.53-gentoo-r1 kernel not booting

[Mark Knecht]

On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 9:18 AM Dale  wrote:

>
> My first kernel, emerge prechecks warned that it wasn't and might or
might not work.  So, I went back to a version that it claims is supported.
I have to say tho, the nvidia site wasn't very helpful.  The messages when
emerging nvidia-drivers was a lot more help.  That said, it does load the
drivers.  They are listed with lsmod.  Given the kernel is on my main rig,
it's harder to test since I don't reboot often.  At some point, I may start
a thread about it if a update or something doesn't fix it.  After all,
current kernel is working just fine.
>
> I just thought it worthwhile to follow this problem since it might help
or give clues on things to look into.  Might be related, might not.
>
Hi Dale,

So assuming I understand your situation, you built nvidia-drivers to work
with
6.1.55 - but got no GUI. The build told you it might not work and it didn't.

You went back to an earlier kernel and it does work.

I don't think you shared what NVidia card is in this machine, and
I don't think you shared what version of NVidia drivers worked
with the old kernel and what version didn't work with the new kernel?

- Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 6.1.53-gentoo-r1 kernel not booting

[Dale]

Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 9:01 AM Dale  > wrote:
> >
> > Peter Böhm wrote:
> > > Am Samstag, 7. Oktober 2023, 14:42:48 CEST schrieb Nuno Silva:
> > >
> > >> I'm not sure it's fair to say it'll be easier in the webforum. [...]
> > > I think everything has its advantages and disadvantages. I
> suggested the forum
> > > because there are also some Gentoo developers active there. If a
> problem
> > > requires several different experts (because I don't know
> everything either)
> > > it's certainly faster and easier there than here. I would also like to
> > > emphasize that it was only a suggestion.
> > >
> > >> It is worth it mentioning the issue there, though, as somebody
> there who
> > >> is not reading this list might know what is going on.
> > > I am one of the moderators of the forum and therefore read every
> new thread
> > >
> > > ;-)
> >
> > I haven't been following all of this thread but I recently built a
> > kernel 6.1.55 and it boots fine but no GUI.  I made sure the symlink is
> > pointing to the right kernel, re-emerged nvidia-drivers and such but
> > still no joy.  If a thread is started there, could someone post a link
> > here?  I'd like to follow this to see if anything helps me with my
> > issue, although it is different, it may have a similar solution.
> >
> > Dale
> >
> > :-)  :-)
>
> Have you triple checked the NVidia site to make sure your
> new kernel is actually supported by the driver you're building.
>
> Sometimes they are delayed by a bit.
>
> HTH,
> Mark


My first kernel, emerge prechecks warned that it wasn't and might or
might not work.  So, I went back to a version that it claims is
supported.  I have to say tho, the nvidia site wasn't very helpful.  The
messages when emerging nvidia-drivers was a lot more help.  That said,
it does load the drivers.  They are listed with lsmod.  Given the kernel
is on my main rig, it's harder to test since I don't reboot often.  At
some point, I may start a thread about it if a update or something
doesn't fix it.  After all, current kernel is working just fine. 

I just thought it worthwhile to follow this problem since it might help
or give clues on things to look into.  Might be related, might not. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 6.1.53-gentoo-r1 kernel not booting

[Mark Knecht]

On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 9:01 AM Dale  wrote:
>
> Peter Böhm wrote:
> > Am Samstag, 7. Oktober 2023, 14:42:48 CEST schrieb Nuno Silva:
> >
> >> I'm not sure it's fair to say it'll be easier in the webforum. [...]
> > I think everything has its advantages and disadvantages. I suggested
the forum
> > because there are also some Gentoo developers active there. If a problem
> > requires several different experts (because I don't know everything
either)
> > it's certainly faster and easier there than here. I would also like to
> > emphasize that it was only a suggestion.
> >
> >> It is worth it mentioning the issue there, though, as somebody there
who
> >> is not reading this list might know what is going on.
> > I am one of the moderators of the forum and therefore read every new
thread
> >
> > ;-)
>
> I haven't been following all of this thread but I recently built a
> kernel 6.1.55 and it boots fine but no GUI.  I made sure the symlink is
> pointing to the right kernel, re-emerged nvidia-drivers and such but
> still no joy.  If a thread is started there, could someone post a link
> here?  I'd like to follow this to see if anything helps me with my
> issue, although it is different, it may have a similar solution.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)

Have you triple checked the NVidia site to make sure your
new kernel is actually supported by the driver you're building.

Sometimes they are delayed by a bit.

HTH,
Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 6.1.53-gentoo-r1 kernel not booting

[Dale]

Peter Böhm wrote:
> Am Samstag, 7. Oktober 2023, 14:42:48 CEST schrieb Nuno Silva:
>
>> I'm not sure it's fair to say it'll be easier in the webforum. [...]
> I think everything has its advantages and disadvantages. I suggested the forum
> because there are also some Gentoo developers active there. If a problem
> requires several different experts (because I don't know everything either)
> it's certainly faster and easier there than here. I would also like to
> emphasize that it was only a suggestion.
>
>> It is worth it mentioning the issue there, though, as somebody there who
>> is not reading this list might know what is going on.
> I am one of the moderators of the forum and therefore read every new thread
>
> ;-)

I haven't been following all of this thread but I recently built a
kernel 6.1.55 and it boots fine but no GUI.  I made sure the symlink is
pointing to the right kernel, re-emerged nvidia-drivers and such but
still no joy.  If a thread is started there, could someone post a link
here?  I'd like to follow this to see if anything helps me with my
issue, although it is different, it may have a similar solution. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 6.1.53-gentoo-r1 kernel not booting

[Peter Böhm]

Am Samstag, 7. Oktober 2023, 14:42:48 CEST schrieb Nuno Silva:

> I'm not sure it's fair to say it'll be easier in the webforum. [...]

I think everything has its advantages and disadvantages. I suggested the forum
because there are also some Gentoo developers active there. If a problem
requires several different experts (because I don't know everything either)
it's certainly faster and easier there than here. I would also like to
emphasize that it was only a suggestion.

> It is worth it mentioning the issue there, though, as somebody there who
> is not reading this list might know what is going on.

I am one of the moderators of the forum and therefore read every new thread

;-)