Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new system, printing suddenly fails for all printers
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new system, printing suddenly fails for all printers
Thank you Walt: On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 12:02 AM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: I've had both problems several times in the past, always caused by dumb things that, of course, should never happen but often do anyway. Me too. Maybe so this time as well, at least I hope so. First the sound. I still don't know why but often when rebooting with a different kernel (I do it often) the sound mixer will wind up with certain channels either muted or turned down all the way. Because these channels are not visible on my gnome volume control I have to use the alsamixer to find the problem and restore the proper settings until the next reboot. Dumb, but that's the way it is. There is no PCM channel in alsamixer! Maybe I will try alsamixergui, where I saw switches once. You should definitely *not* unload your kernel sound modules when shutting down -- it's silly and causes problems. Turn this 'feature' off in your /etc/conf.d/alsasound by setting UNLOAD_ON_STOP=no and KILLPROC_ON_STOP= no. Duly noted and exorcized. Printing. Usually my printing problems come from having the wrong printing device set in the cups Modify Printer section (localhost:631 as you said). Usually the problem is that I didn't have the printer connected and turned on when setting the 'printer device' and therefore the proper choice didn't appear in the menu. Really dumb. Two printers are connected, and turned on. One printer, the deskjet, started one job, a testpage, got to 17% and stayed there a good long while. Anyway, start by going back through that printer setup menu system and try every choice until you find one that works -- and make sure the printer is turned on :o) Thank you again. I earnestly hope they both iron out quickly. I'm starting to grow fond of this install. Alan Davis ...can the human soul be glimpsed through a microscope? Maybe, but you'd definitely need one of those very good ones with two eyepieces. -- Woody Allen, quoted by B. A. Palevitz
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new system, printing suddenly fails for all printers
Well, like Walt said, printing configuration has often been a problem. When I checked, after rebooting after an upgrade to ~amd64, the printers were both setup as network printers. They are not. As soon as I changed the widget to indicate the printer was local, it started priinting! Dumb things indeed... Sound is a more arcane area, not there yet. Alan Davis ...can the human soul be glimpsed through a microscope? Maybe, but you'd definitely need one of those very good ones with two eyepieces. -- Woody Allen, quoted by B. A. Palevitz
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new system, printing suddenly fails for all printers
Why all the handwringing? Just use hplip when using a HP printer and all the hair-pulling will disappear in seconds. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Alan E. Davis lngn...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 01:48:57 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new system, printing suddenly fails for all printers Thank you Walt: On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 12:02 AM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: I've had both problems several times in the past, always caused by dumb things that, of course, should never happen but often do anyway. Me too. Maybe so this time as well, at least I hope so. First the sound. I still don't know why but often when rebooting with a different kernel (I do it often) the sound mixer will wind up with certain channels either muted or turned down all the way. Because these channels are not visible on my gnome volume control I have to use the alsamixer to find the problem and restore the proper settings until the next reboot. Dumb, but that's the way it is. There is no PCM channel in alsamixer! Maybe I will try alsamixergui, where I saw switches once. You should definitely *not* unload your kernel sound modules when shutting down -- it's silly and causes problems. Turn this 'feature' off in your /etc/conf.d/alsasound by setting UNLOAD_ON_STOP=no and KILLPROC_ON_STOP= no. Duly noted and exorcized. Printing. Usually my printing problems come from having the wrong printing device set in the cups Modify Printer section (localhost:631 as you said). Usually the problem is that I didn't have the printer connected and turned on when setting the 'printer device' and therefore the proper choice didn't appear in the menu. Really dumb. Two printers are connected, and turned on. One printer, the deskjet, started one job, a testpage, got to 17% and stayed there a good long while. Anyway, start by going back through that printer setup menu system and try every choice until you find one that works -- and make sure the printer is turned on :o) Thank you again. I earnestly hope they both iron out quickly. I'm starting to grow fond of this install. Alan Davis ...can the human soul be glimpsed through a microscope? Maybe, but you'd definitely need one of those very good ones with two eyepieces. -- Woody Allen, quoted by B. A. Palevitz
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new system, printing suddenly fails for all printers
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 6:20 AM, eamj...@gmail.com wrote: Why all the handwringing? Just use hplip when using a HP printer and all the hair-pulling will disappear in seconds. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry eamjr56: I also am amazed at the support from HP. Recalling the days some 12 years ago, and so many hoops to jump through and then only to get an HP printer to work partially. What was curious about this, I had used HPLIP. Somehow, all of a sudden, all printers were seen as network printers. Either I did a dumb thing of collossal proportions, or some update wrote over the top of my config files. What I now suspect is that I had consented to let dispatch-conf replace my original config file, not understanding the consequences. Live and learn, Alan
