Re: [gentoo-user] Sniffing / analysis of application / wifi packets on my LAN

2010-10-07 Thread Jake Moe
 On 10/07/10 19:37, Stroller wrote:
 Hi there,

 I'm interested in the activity of an application which is running on my LAN, 
 and was wondering if anyone could offer some quick pointers on the best tools 
 for this these days. I've played with this some years ago, but only very 
 superficially - I think I used wireshark back then.

 Ideally what I want to do is capture a big dump of the traffic over a couple 
 of minutes (so it shouldn't be that much, right?) into a file and then 
 analyse it afterwards based on destination IP, content c. A couple of 
 minutes should allow completion of at least 2 or 3 separate interactions with 
 the server.

 The network is mine, as is the device from which I'm capturing the data. I 
 have a Belkin F5D7010 wifi card, which I think is based on a RaLink rt2x00 
 (rt2400 / rt2500) chipset, and I have my network's WPA key, so I think I can 
 just set the wifi card in passive mode for sniffing. I'm pretty sure I 
 experimented with this card in passive mode before, some years ago. 
 Alternatively, I think I can plug the wifi access-point into my PC, bridge it 
 to a second wired NIC and sniff what's going across the bridge (but I don't 
 think this should be necessary).

 What I'm expecting to see is some image, audio  html files /or xml data 
 transferred, and ideally I'd like to be able to extract it all and view it in 
 its original format. 

 There's likely to be some inevitable other activity on the wLAN whilst this 
 is happening - I'll try to minimise this, but I think the tools should be 
 able filter out any crap I'm not interested in, right?

 I'd prefer as much as possible to use CLI tools for capturing / analysing the 
 data.

 Thanks in advance for any quick pointers you can offer,

 Stroller.


As far as I'm aware, Wireshark is the standard for packet capture and
analysis.  It supports both capture and display filters, so you can
limit it to just what you're interested in.  If the client and server
are both on your LAN, then you should probably go ahead and capture
everything, and then use a display filter to limit it to just the hosts
you need.  That way, if for some reason you find you need to see what
else is going on on the network at a given time, the captured data is
still there, you just broaden the display filter.

As far as CLI tools go, sorry, I'm not sure what's available.  Never had
a need to look into those.  But Wireshark uses libpcap, and digging a
bit shows tcpdump, which is a CLI tool that uses libpcap to capture
data, so it may give you the same functionality.  I've never used it
though, so I can't help further.

Jake Moe



Re: [gentoo-user] Sniffing / analysis of application / wifi packets on my LAN

2010-10-07 Thread William Kenworthy
Wireshark - always use the latest ~x86.  Can capture and save with a lot
of options.

to just do a quick capture, try 
tcpdump -i eth- -w file.pcap writes a pcap format file (can be read by
wireshark etc)
tcpdump -r file.pcap to see whats in it
tcpdump -A - -r file.pcap to extract text like html

If you already have wireshark, tshark can do similar operation to
tcpdump.

BillK



On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 10:37 +0100, Stroller wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 I'm interested in the activity of an application which is running on my LAN, 
 and was wondering if anyone could offer some quick pointers on the best tools 
 for this these days. I've played with this some years ago, but only very 
 superficially - I think I used wireshark back then.
 
 Ideally what I want to do is capture a big dump of the traffic over a couple 
 of minutes (so it shouldn't be that much, right?) into a file and then 
 analyse it afterwards based on destination IP, content c. A couple of 
 minutes should allow completion of at least 2 or 3 separate interactions with 
 the server.
 
 The network is mine, as is the device from which I'm capturing the data. I 
 have a Belkin F5D7010 wifi card, which I think is based on a RaLink rt2x00 
 (rt2400 / rt2500) chipset, and I have my network's WPA key, so I think I can 
 just set the wifi card in passive mode for sniffing. I'm pretty sure I 
 experimented with this card in passive mode before, some years ago. 
 Alternatively, I think I can plug the wifi access-point into my PC, bridge it 
 to a second wired NIC and sniff what's going across the bridge (but I don't 
 think this should be necessary).
 
 What I'm expecting to see is some image, audio  html files /or xml data 
 transferred, and ideally I'd like to be able to extract it all and view it in 
 its original format. 
 
 There's likely to be some inevitable other activity on the wLAN whilst this 
 is happening - I'll try to minimise this, but I think the tools should be 
 able filter out any crap I'm not interested in, right?
 
 I'd prefer as much as possible to use CLI tools for capturing / analysing the 
 data.
 
 Thanks in advance for any quick pointers you can offer,
 
 Stroller.
 
 

-- 
William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au
Home in Perth!




Re: [gentoo-user] Sniffing / analysis of application / wifi packets on my LAN

2010-10-07 Thread Mick
On 7 October 2010 10:37, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote:
 Hi there,

 I'm interested in the activity of an application which is running on my LAN, 
 and was wondering if anyone could offer some quick pointers on the best tools 
 for this these days. I've played with this some years ago, but only very 
 superficially - I think I used wireshark back then.

 Ideally what I want to do is capture a big dump of the traffic over a couple 
 of minutes (so it shouldn't be that much, right?) into a file and then 
 analyse it afterwards based on destination IP, content c. A couple of 
 minutes should allow completion of at least 2 or 3 separate interactions with 
 the server.

 The network is mine, as is the device from which I'm capturing the data. I 
 have a Belkin F5D7010 wifi card, which I think is based on a RaLink rt2x00 
 (rt2400 / rt2500) chipset, and I have my network's WPA key, so I think I can 
 just set the wifi card in passive mode for sniffing. I'm pretty sure I 
 experimented with this card in passive mode before, some years ago. 
 Alternatively, I think I can plug the wifi access-point into my PC, bridge it 
 to a second wired NIC and sniff what's going across the bridge (but I don't 
 think this should be necessary).

 What I'm expecting to see is some image, audio  html files /or xml data 
 transferred, and ideally I'd like to be able to extract it all and view it in 
 its original format.

 There's likely to be some inevitable other activity on the wLAN whilst this 
 is happening - I'll try to minimise this, but I think the tools should be 
 able filter out any crap I'm not interested in, right?

 I'd prefer as much as possible to use CLI tools for capturing / analysing the 
 data.

By passive I assume you mean promiscuous?

Since you prefer CLI you can use tcpdump and tcpflow.  tcpdump will
place your card in promiscuous mode - if you only want to see what's
addressed to your machine use the -p switch.  To avoid truncating the
packets increase the size of the packets captured e.g. -s 65535 and
also add some detail -XX to see the payload.  Altogether something
like this should work:

tcpdump -i wlan0 -e -l -U -vvv -s 65535 -w tcpdump_cap.txt -XX
(switch -w for -r to read what you've captured).

You can use the -T protocol option to only capture/read a particular
protocol.  I rarely specify this.

tcpflow -i wlan0 -c -p -s -v

With tcpflow you can specify the protocol (e.g. proto arp) to capture
only particular packets as well.

Hope this helps.
-- 
Regards,
Mick



Re: [gentoo-user] Sniffing / analysis of application / wifi packets on my LAN

2010-10-07 Thread Stroller

On 7 Oct 2010, at 12:28, Jake Moe wrote:
 ...
 As far as I'm aware, Wireshark is the standard for packet capture and
 analysis. ...
 
 As far as CLI tools go, sorry, I'm not sure what's available.  Never had
 a need to look into those.

So Wireshark is a GUI tool?

I thought I'd used it in CLI mode (USE=-gtk???), but it was a long time ago, 
so maybe I'm mistaken.

Many thanks also to William  Mick. Yes, I did mean promiscuous mode, sorry. 
I'm sure I'll have more comments once I've had a chance to have a crack at it. 
I'm planning on using a laptop with a cardbus wifi card, and I realised it had 
last been used and updated 2 years ago, so I'm (still) in the middle of 
reinstalling at the moment.

Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] Sniffing / analysis of application / wifi packets on my LAN

2010-10-07 Thread Adam Carter

  As far as CLI tools go, sorry, I'm not sure what's available.  Never had
  a need to look into those.


tcpdump is the most common CLI tool. Handy if you want to capture to a file
on a unix based firewall or F5 etc so you can then view it in Wireshark on
your workstation.


 So Wireshark is a GUI tool?


Yes.

It has crypto decode for SSL if you have the private key, so it might also
be possible to have it decode WPA since you have the key - RTFM to find out
for sure. Depending on how the crypto works you may need to have captured
the beginning of the crypto setup to be able to decode, as that's where the
session key will be exchanged. Cant remember if WPA does that or not.