Re: [gentoo-user] firefox et al. crash when attaching file in gmail --- dbus?

2008-07-28 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag, 28. Juli 2008, Andrey Falko wrote:


 To eliminate the first factor do: emerge -e world. 

no. Just no.


 This will rebuild
 all of the packages on your system in the correct order. The second
 factor can be eliminated by downgrading to firefox2. If it is a
 firefox3 problem then the bug report would go to firefox developers.

just re-emerge dbus and/or revdep-rebuilt should be enough. Or that 
'preserved-libs' stuff. But emerge -e world is almost always the wrong answer. 
And it won't solve anything if he is using a portage version with preserved-
libs. Because in that case dbus might built against the wrong lib again.




Re: [gentoo-user] firefox et al. crash when attaching file in gmail --- dbus?

2008-07-28 Thread Alan E. Davis
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Montag, 28. Juli 2008, Andrey Falko wrote:

 
  To eliminate the first factor do: emerge -e world.

 no. Just no.


For what it's worth, I started emerge -e system quite some time ago.  It
stops about 1/2 way through on glib.  Apparently this is common.   I started
it up again as emerge -e system --skipfirst.  How bad of an idea was
that?  I think about 200 out of about 350 pkgs have been rebuilt.

I'll halt this and rebuild dbus again.  Etc/





  The second
  factor can be eliminated by downgrading to firefox2. If it is a
  firefox3 problem then the bug report would go to firefox developers.


It does affect firefox 2 also.  All users except root.  All gecko browsers,
I guess (all firefox, and epiphany---didnt' try galeon).



 just re-emerge dbus and/or revdep-rebuilt should be enough. Or that
 'preserved-libs' stuff.


 I don't qet it about preserved-libs.  THerefore I haven't done anything
about any of the messages.  I don't understand the messages, exactly what
would happen?  Would I be building the same app with the same old lib or
with the new lib?  I need to find something in the docs, but haven't seen
anything yet.

Thank you for the advice,

Alan Davis






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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox et al. crash when attaching file in gmail --- dbus?

2008-07-28 Thread Eric Martin

Alan E. Davis wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Montag, 28. Juli 2008, Andrey Falko wrote:

 
  To eliminate the first factor do: emerge -e world.

no. Just no.

 
For what it's worth, I started emerge -e system quite some time ago.  It 
stops about 1/2 way through on glib.  Apparently this is common.   I 
started it up again as emerge -e system --skipfirst.  How bad of an 
idea was that?  I think about 200 out of about 350 pkgs have been rebuilt.


I'll halt this and rebuild dbus again.  Etc/



WRT emerge -e world I had a few problems where glibc wouldn't build and 
tracking down the cause of that fixed my other problems.  Could be 
coincidence, could be related.  I rebuilt the toolchain once or twice to 
get glib going again, recompiled and my problems were solved.



  The second
  factor can be eliminated by downgrading to firefox2. If it is a
  firefox3 problem then the bug report would go to firefox developers.


It does affect firefox 2 also.  All users except root.  All gecko 
browsers, I guess (all firefox, and epiphany---didnt' try galeon). 


You say it works as root.  This is a stretch but it's wicked easy and 
should be tried: try killing your profile.  it's as easy as renaming 
.mozilla so firefox creates a new one next boot.  If it's still broken 
it only wasted a minute, and if it works you're not banging your head 
needlessly and later on.



just re-emerge dbus and/or revdep-rebuilt should be enough. Or that
'preserved-libs' stuff. 


snip


Thank you for the advice,

Alan Davis


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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox et al. crash when attaching file in gmail --- dbus?

2008-07-28 Thread Alan E. Davis
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Eric Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 WRT emerge -e world I had a few problems where glibc wouldn't build and
 tracking down the cause of that fixed my other problems.  Could be
 coincidence, could be related.  I rebuilt the toolchain once or twice to get
 glib going again, recompiled and my problems were solved.


Do you mind to explain a little more?  How would I go about this?  I have a
few packages that won't build, and glib is one.  Over and over.  gtkmm is
another.  There is an upstream gtkmm that is said to solve that issue, but I
haven't gotten the courage to bump an ebuild to a new version.

How would one rebuild the toolchain?



 You say it works as root.  This is a stretch but it's wicked easy and
 should be tried: try killing your profile.  it's as easy as renaming
 .mozilla so firefox creates a new one next boot.  If it's still broken it
 only wasted a minute, and if it works you're not banging your head
 needlessly and later on.


I have tried it as three different users, and have moved .mozilla, used
firefox2, firefox3, firefox3-bin, epiphany.  The same thing happens.  Moving
.mozilla has no effect.

My system has been riddled with these issues of permissions and (I assume)
dbus and/or hal issues, since when.  The livecd was a mess: took several
passes even to get a working, booting system.  It's getting better.

Thank you,

Alan

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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox et al. crash when attaching file in gmail --- dbus?

2008-07-28 Thread Alan E. Davis
I have reread the GCC upgrade guide.  I skipped the step of fixing libtool,
and recompiling.  So another overnight emerge -e world ...

Thank you, meantime

Alan




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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox et al. crash when attaching file in gmail --- dbus?

2008-07-28 Thread Eric Martin
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Alan E. Davis wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Eric Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 WRT emerge -e world I had a few problems where glibc wouldn't build and
 tracking down the cause of that fixed my other problems.  Could be
 coincidence, could be related.  I rebuilt the toolchain once or twice to get
 glib going again, recompiled and my problems were solved.

 
 Do you mind to explain a little more?  How would I go about this?  I have a
 few packages that won't build, and glib is one.  Over and over.  gtkmm is
 another.  There is an upstream gtkmm that is said to solve that issue, but I
 haven't gotten the courage to bump an ebuild to a new version.
 
 How would one rebuild the toolchain?
 
 
 You say it works as root.  This is a stretch but it's wicked easy and
 should be tried: try killing your profile.  it's as easy as renaming
 .mozilla so firefox creates a new one next boot.  If it's still broken it
 only wasted a minute, and if it works you're not banging your head
 needlessly and later on.
 
 
 I have tried it as three different users, and have moved .mozilla, used
 firefox2, firefox3, firefox3-bin, epiphany.  The same thing happens.  Moving
 .mozilla has no effect.hem 
 
 My system has been riddled with these issues of permissions and (I assume)
 dbus and/or hal issues, since when.  The livecd was a mess: took several
 passes even to get a working, booting system.  It's getting better.
 
 Thank you,
 
 Alan
 
Toolchain refers to glibc, gcc, and binutils.  Try running

emerge glibc gcc binutils

Portage will put them in the correct order.

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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox et al. crash when attaching file in gmail --- dbus?

2008-07-28 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag, 28. Juli 2008, Alan E. Davis wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Montag, 28. Juli 2008, Andrey Falko wrote:
   To eliminate the first factor do: emerge -e world.
 
  no. Just no.

 For what it's worth, I started emerge -e system quite some time ago.  It
 stops about 1/2 way through on glib.  Apparently this is common.   I
 started it up again as emerge -e system --skipfirst.  How bad of an idea
 was that?  I think about 200 out of about 350 pkgs have been rebuilt.

 I'll halt this and rebuild dbus again.  Etc/

   The second
   factor can be eliminated by downgrading to firefox2. If it is a
   firefox3 problem then the bug report would go to firefox developers.

 It does affect firefox 2 also.  All users except root.  All gecko browsers,
 I guess (all firefox, and epiphany---didnt' try galeon).

  just re-emerge dbus and/or revdep-rebuilt should be enough. Or that
  'preserved-libs' stuff.

  I don't qet it about preserved-libs.  THerefore I haven't done anything
 about any of the messages.  I don't understand the messages, exactly what
 would happen?  Would I be building the same app with the same old lib or
 with the new lib?  I need to find something in the docs, but haven't seen
 anything yet.

http://r0bertz.blogspot.com/2008/06/portage-22-preserve-libs-features.html

the problem with it (a friend run into it - maybe the have fixed it in the 
meantime)if you do an emerge -e system/world while the old stuff is still 
there, some apps and libs will link against the old stuff. Thus the whole 
exercise will be a waste of time and energy.



Re: [gentoo-user] firefox et al. crash when attaching file in gmail --- dbus?

2008-07-28 Thread Alan E. Davis
I have found a script called emwrap.sh  The forum thread attached to that
script makes it clear it is important to compile the few core TC files twice
before emerge -e system.  Then do that twice.  Then emerce -e world.  Wow.
The script is supposed to shorten the overall time, by not recompiling TC
and system when compiling the rest of the world.  It seems logical.

I also found some inconsistencies in my USE flags, so it's back to square
one.  I hope this works.  (I am trying the script).

Thank you very much.

Alan

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:39 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Montag, 28. Juli 2008, Alan E. Davis wrote:
  On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Montag, 28. Juli 2008, Andrey Falko wrote:
To eliminate the first factor do: emerge -e world.
  
   no. Just no.
 
  For what it's worth, I started emerge -e system quite some time ago.  It
  stops about 1/2 way through on glib.  Apparently this is common.   I
  started it up again as emerge -e system --skipfirst.  How bad of an
 idea
  was that?  I think about 200 out of about 350 pkgs have been rebuilt.
 
  I'll halt this and rebuild dbus again.  Etc/
 
The second
factor can be eliminated by downgrading to firefox2. If it is a
firefox3 problem then the bug report would go to firefox developers.
 
  It does affect firefox 2 also.  All users except root.  All gecko
 browsers,
  I guess (all firefox, and epiphany---didnt' try galeon).
 
   just re-emerge dbus and/or revdep-rebuilt should be enough. Or that
   'preserved-libs' stuff.
 
   I don't qet it about preserved-libs.  THerefore I haven't done anything
  about any of the messages.  I don't understand the messages, exactly what
  would happen?  Would I be building the same app with the same old lib or
  with the new lib?  I need to find something in the docs, but haven't seen
  anything yet.

 http://r0bertz.blogspot.com/2008/06/portage-22-preserve-libs-features.html

 the problem with it (a friend run into it - maybe the have fixed it in the
 meantime)if you do an emerge -e system/world while the old stuff is still
 there, some apps and libs will link against the old stuff. Thus the whole
 exercise will be a waste of time and energy.




-- 
Alan Davis

It's never a matter of liking or disliking ...
---Santa Ynez Chumash Medicine Man


Re: [gentoo-user] firefox et al. crash when attaching file in gmail --- dbus?

2008-07-28 Thread Eric Martin
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Alan E. Davis wrote:
 I have found a script called emwrap.sh  The forum thread attached to that
 script makes it clear it is important to compile the few core TC files twice
 before emerge -e system.  Then do that twice.  Then emerce -e world.  Wow.
 The script is supposed to shorten the overall time, by not recompiling TC
 and system when compiling the rest of the world.  It seems logical.
 
 I also found some inconsistencies in my USE flags, so it's back to square
 one.  I hope this works.  (I am trying the script).
 
 Thank you very much.
 
 Alan
 
 On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:39 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Montag, 28. Juli 2008, Alan E. Davis wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Montag, 28. Juli 2008, Andrey Falko wrote:
 To eliminate the first factor do: emerge -e world.
 no. Just no.
 For what it's worth, I started emerge -e system quite some time ago.  It
 stops about 1/2 way through on glib.  Apparently this is common.   I
 started it up again as emerge -e system --skipfirst.  How bad of an
 idea
 was that?  I think about 200 out of about 350 pkgs have been rebuilt.

 I'll halt this and rebuild dbus again.  Etc/

 The second
 factor can be eliminated by downgrading to firefox2. If it is a
 firefox3 problem then the bug report would go to firefox developers.
 It does affect firefox 2 also.  All users except root.  All gecko
 browsers,
 I guess (all firefox, and epiphany---didnt' try galeon).

 just re-emerge dbus and/or revdep-rebuilt should be enough. Or that
 'preserved-libs' stuff.
  I don't qet it about preserved-libs.  THerefore I haven't done anything
 about any of the messages.  I don't understand the messages, exactly what
 would happen?  Would I be building the same app with the same old lib or
 with the new lib?  I need to find something in the docs, but haven't seen
 anything yet.
 http://r0bertz.blogspot.com/2008/06/portage-22-preserve-libs-features.html

 the problem with it (a friend run into it - maybe the have fixed it in the
 meantime)if you do an emerge -e system/world while the old stuff is still
 there, some apps and libs will link against the old stuff. Thus the whole
 exercise will be a waste of time and energy.


 
 
Please don't top post, it makes it very hard to follow the flow of the
list.  Thanks!  Let us know how that turns out with the script.  Also,
where did you find it?

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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox et al. crash when attaching file in gmail --- dbus?

2008-07-28 Thread Alan E. Davis
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Eric Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Alan E. Davis wrote:
  I have found a script called emwrap.sh



Please don't top post, it makes it very hard to follow the flow of the
 list.  Thanks!  Let us know how that turns out with the script.  Also,
 where did you find it?

 I apologize for that.

I think this would get it for you.

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-282474-postdays-0-postorder-asc-start-0.html

Alan



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