Re: [gentoo-user] requirement: ssh v1

2019-05-16 Thread Poison BL.
On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 6:45 AM Stefan G. Weichinger  wrote:
>
>
> At a customer we still have to keep up an ancient Suse 6.x VM, it has a
> legacy and proprietary software in it which has to be kept alive.
>
> No way to move that sw to another OS, don't ask ...
>

Any chance to just attach to the VM console, or a serial console on
that VM tied it back to a serial console on another host that runs
modern tools, taking the SSHv1 offline? It's providing more
vulnerability than it is security.

-- 
Poison [BLX]
Joshua M. Murphy



Re: [gentoo-user] requirement: ssh v1

2019-05-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 8:09 AM Michael Orlitzky  wrote:
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> Otherwise, your best bet is to install a modern Gentoo system, and then
> downgrade OpenSSH.
>

++ assuming it builds, which it probably would.  I'd just stick the
old ebuild in an overlay and mask out the gentoo repo for that package
(I assume mask atoms can take a repo name).

If the old openssh doesn't build then you're going to have a more
difficult situation.  A container does seem like a reasonable solution
for this, if you're just doing this for the ssh client.  You could
also just use a chroot, though these days I have completely replaced
chroots with containers as the latter are almost universally better.

-- 
Rich



Re: [gentoo-user] requirement: ssh v1

2019-05-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 16.05.19 um 14:09 schrieb Michael Orlitzky:
> On 5/16/19 6:44 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
>>
>> Will I be able to install such a "kept old" gentoo machine from scratch
>> or does some have a better idea?
>>
> 
> Does it *need* SSHv1, or does the default sshd *run* SSHv1?

It *is* SSHv1 ... v2 didn't exist back then ;-)

> If it's the latter, you might be able to compile a newer OpenSSH from
> source to get the modern protocol, obviating the need for the extra host.
> 
> Otherwise, your best bet is to install a modern Gentoo system, and then
> downgrade OpenSSH.

I setup a small VM with debian 8 ... seems to work.

thanks, sorry for the noise






Re: [gentoo-user] requirement: ssh v1

2019-05-16 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 5/16/19 6:44 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> 
> Will I be able to install such a "kept old" gentoo machine from scratch
> or does some have a better idea?
> 

Does it *need* SSHv1, or does the default sshd *run* SSHv1?

If it's the latter, you might be able to compile a newer OpenSSH from
source to get the modern protocol, obviating the need for the extra host.

Otherwise, your best bet is to install a modern Gentoo system, and then
downgrade OpenSSH.