Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing physical volume for lvm.

2009-03-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 22 March 2009 22:42:39 Momesso Andrea wrote:
 Thanks for the advice. Will be a problem for lvm if I add a partition
 before it? I mean, will I need to change any config files while lvm is
 gonna reside on sda4 instead of sda3?

It's not a problem. LVM scans the drive looking for pvs and uses them as it 
finds them. You can see this behaviour when running 'vgchange -a y'. It 
doesn't need or really use the partition number at all.

You may have such things in lvm config files somewhere. If it becomes 
problematic, simply remove/comment those entries.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing physical volume for lvm.

2009-03-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 22 March 2009 23:00:07 Momesso Andrea wrote:
 On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:35:35 +0200

 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Sunday 22 March 2009 22:15:14 Momesso Andrea wrote:

  Your data is safe if you do exactly the steps you said above.

 pvresize /dev/sda3
   /dev/sda3: too many metadata areas for pvresize

 Looks like I cannot expand it...

This code commit is giving the error:

http://sources.redhat.com/ml/lvm2-cvs/2008-09/msg1.html

and a solution can be found in this thread (courtesy of that nice man Mr. 
Google):

http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20081129.151331.dd8edce0.en.html

 ---
 TopperH
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-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing physical volume for lvm.

2009-03-23 Thread Momesso Andrea
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:22:20 +0200
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sunday 22 March 2009 23:00:07 Momesso Andrea wrote:
  On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:35:35 +0200
 
  Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Sunday 22 March 2009 22:15:14 Momesso Andrea wrote:
 
   Your data is safe if you do exactly the steps you said above.
 
  pvresize /dev/sda3
/dev/sda3: too many metadata areas for pvresize
 
  Looks like I cannot expand it...
 
 This code commit is giving the error:
 
 http://sources.redhat.com/ml/lvm2-cvs/2008-09/msg1.html
 
 and a solution can be found in this thread (courtesy of that nice
 man Mr. Google):
 
 http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20081129.151331.dd8edce0.en.html

It looks more like a workaround than a solution. If my non native
English understood it well, it suggests to backup everything, recreate
the pv for the whole size, and then restore from backup.

This is exactly what I did not want to do in the OP... By the way, if I
need to, I will.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?

2009-03-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:18:09 -0500, Dale wrote:

 I'm not real familiar with aliases but know what it is.  If you use the
 alias method, how would you disable it for a one time run? 

If you gave the alias the same name as the command, just use the full
path to the command to call it directly. But in this case, using a
different name for the alias makes much more sense. I have these two
aliases defined

alias smerge='sudo emerge --update --reinstall changed-use --ask @system'
alias wmerge='sudo emerge --update --deep --reinstall changed-use --ask 
--with-bdeps y @world'


-- 
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If ignorance is bliss, you must be orgasmic.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing physical volume for lvm.

2009-03-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:57:08 +0100, Momesso Andrea wrote:

 It looks more like a workaround than a solution. If my non native
 English understood it well, it suggests to backup everything, recreate
 the pv for the whole size, and then restore from backup.

Since you currently have plenty of free space, you don't have to take the
system out of service to do a backup. Create a new PV in sda4 and run
pvmove, then remove and recreate the PV on sda3 and pvmove the data back.
Then you can delete sda4 and enlarge sda3.


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UNILINGUAL: American.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing physical volume for lvm.

2009-03-23 Thread Momesso Andrea
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:57:19 +
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:

 On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:57:08 +0100, Momesso Andrea wrote:
 
  It looks more like a workaround than a solution. If my non native
  English understood it well, it suggests to backup everything,
  recreate the pv for the whole size, and then restore from backup.
 
 Since you currently have plenty of free space, you don't have to take
 the system out of service to do a backup. Create a new PV in sda4 and
 run pvmove, then remove and recreate the PV on sda3 and pvmove the
 data back. Then you can delete sda4 and enlarge sda3.
 
 

Since, as Alan suggested, I enlarged sda3 with fdisk, how can I have
back my old sda4 without risking to lose the data?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing physical volume for lvm.

2009-03-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:07:59 +0100, Momesso Andrea wrote:

  Since you currently have plenty of free space, you don't have to take
  the system out of service to do a backup. Create a new PV in sda4 and
  run pvmove, then remove and recreate the PV on sda3 and pvmove the
  data back. Then you can delete sda4 and enlarge sda3.

 Since, as Alan suggested, I enlarged sda3 with fdisk, how can I have
 back my old sda4 without risking to lose the data?

You only enlarged the partition, not the PV that lives on it. So you can
delete and recreate it at the original size,although I'd make it a
little larger than before, just to be certain it is never smaller.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing physical volume for lvm.

2009-03-23 Thread Momesso Andrea
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:31:20 +
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:

 On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:07:59 +0100, Momesso Andrea wrote:
 
   Since you currently have plenty of free space, you don't have to
   take the system out of service to do a backup. Create a new PV in
   sda4 and run pvmove, then remove and recreate the PV on sda3 and
   pvmove the data back. Then you can delete sda4 and enlarge sda3.
 
  Since, as Alan suggested, I enlarged sda3 with fdisk, how can I have
  back my old sda4 without risking to lose the data?
 
 You only enlarged the partition, not the PV that lives on it. So you
 can delete and recreate it at the original size,although I'd make it a
 little larger than before, just to be certain it is never smaller.
 
 

Wow, didn't know that lvm offers such a great flexibility...

But I still miss someting... If I pvmove the pv from sda3 to sda4, then
recreate a brand new pv on sda3, pvmove the data back, fdisk to delete
sda4 and enlarge sda3, what will prevent pvextend to fall in the same
error I had before?

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Re: [gentoo-user] extending /usr partition...

2009-03-23 Thread BRM

I never said LVM would do data recovery or provide Data Integrity - thats the 
job of the soft-RAID - though even that won't prevent PEBKAC errors (e.g. 
delete file).

And LVM adds more than a 'little' complexity.

If I had just lost the drive, I would have known exactly what I had lost as I 
would have known exactly what partitions were lost and what they mapped to by 
simply looking at /etc/fstab.

However, with LVM, I had to deconstruct the VG to figure out what partitions 
were lost and see if any remaining partitions were only partially there - and 
do it all by hand at that. That's more than a slight inconvenience, and takes a 
lot more time.

I'm not blaming LVM for a user error. I am, however, pointing out a weakness 
of using VGs.

Ben



- Original Message 
From: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 4:42:12 AM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] extending /usr partition...

On Saturday 21 March 2009 23:13:49 BRM wrote:
 So, unless you are looking to use LVM in a soft-RAID solution between
 multiple physical drives, not multiple partitions on the same drive, (e.g.
 partition A = sda1 + sda2, with mirror on sdb1+sdb2), then I would not
 suggest it as should anything happen, it'll make data recovery that much
 harder.

LVM does not and should not provide data integrity features.

You lost a drive. The data on it goes away. What did you expect would happen? 
That the data on it would magically reconstruct itself?

In a situation like that, losing a drive with LVM is only slightly more 
inconvenient (one or two more steps) than losing the same drive without LVM 
(which is horribly inconvenient by itself).

Please don't blame LVM for what is actually a user error.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Seamonkey, saving files after updating gtk+

2009-03-23 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 4:43 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm not sure if the gtk+ update is relevant here but it was the only
 thing I could find that was recently upgraded that may fit.  It used to
 be that if I was saving a file, picture or attachment in Seamonkey and
 created a new folder, it would enter the new folder when I created it
 without me having to double click it.  Right now, I right click and
 select 'save file as' or 'save image as' and a pop up appears as usual.
 I then click 'create folder' and it makes a space in the directory for
 me to type in the name.  I do that then hit return and it creates the
 new folder but leaves me in the old folder that I was just in.  Example,
 I'm in /home/dale/Desktop and ask it to create /home/dale/Desktop/foo,
 the old way puts me in the foo directory.  The new way leaves me in
 /home/dale/Desktop.  I then have to double click the foo entry to enter
 it to save my file.

 I'm so used to the old way that I sometimes forget and end up with a lot
 of stuff on my desktop with no idea sometimes what folder it should be in.

 This is a list of the packages that were upgraded according to genlop:

 Fri Mar 20 04:58:16 2009  sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc26
 Fri Mar 20 04:58:16 2009  sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc26
 Fri Mar 20 04:58:51 2009  gnome-base/gnome-common-2.24.0
 Fri Mar 20 05:03:58 2009  dev-libs/libxml2-2.7.3
 Fri Mar 20 05:04:53 2009  dev-libs/libgamin-0.1.10-r2
 Fri Mar 20 05:06:06 2009  media-libs/audiofile-0.2.6-r4
 Fri Mar 20 05:07:19 2009  x11-libs/pixman-0.12.0
 Fri Mar 20 05:08:56 2009  x11-libs/cairo-1.8.6-r1
 Fri Mar 20 05:10:24 2009  dev-java/gjdoc-0.7.9-r1
 Fri Mar 20 05:11:22 2009  app-text/iso-codes-3.6
 Fri Mar 20 05:11:34 2009  x11-misc/icon-naming-utils-0.8.7
 Fri Mar 20 05:13:18 2009  x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.24.0
 Fri Mar 20 05:18:05 2009  dev-libs/glib-2.18.4-r1
 Fri Mar 20 05:20:26 2009  x11-libs/pango-1.22.4
 Fri Mar 20 05:20:59 2009  dev-libs/atk-1.24.0
 Fri Mar 20 05:22:17 2009  net-libs/libsoup-2.24.3
 Fri Mar 20 05:23:10 2009  dev-libs/libcroco-0.6.2
 Fri Mar 20 05:24:20 2009  dev-python/pygobject-2.16.1
 Fri Mar 20 05:40:42 2009  x11-libs/gtk+-2.14.7-r2
 Fri Mar 20 05:42:35 2009  gnome-base/gconf-2.24.0
 Fri Mar 20 05:42:46 2009  gnome-base/gail-1000
 Fri Mar 20 05:44:10 2009  x11-libs/libwnck-2.24.2
 Fri Mar 20 05:45:49 2009  gnome-base/gnome-keyring-2.22.3-r1
 Fri Mar 20 05:48:19 2009  dev-python/pygtk-2.14.0
 Fri Mar 20 05:49:32 2009  gnome-extra/libgsf-1.14.11
 Fri Mar 20 05:51:12 2009  gnome-base/librsvg-2.22.3
 Fri Mar 20 05:56:03 2009  gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.24.0
 Fri Mar 20 05:57:01 2009  gnome-base/libgnome-2.24.1
 Fri Mar 20 06:00:45 2009  gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.24.0
 Fri Mar 20 06:03:40 2009  gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.24.0
 Fri Mar 20 06:14:03 2009 
 gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-2.24.5-r2

 Is this because of the gtk+ upgrade?  If not, any idea what could cause
 this?  If it is the upgrade, how do I go back to the old way when it
 goes into the folder automatically?

 Thanks for any ideas you may have.

Have you changed GTK themes lately? I know some behaviors and button
layouts can be affected by it. I recently changed mine, and the order
of cancel and overwrite in the This file already exists dialog
box was reversed when compared to the old theme. I think I have clied
the wrong one about 90% of the time so far.



[gentoo-user] lm_sensors for AMD K10

2009-03-23 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi,

does anybody know about a patch to make lm_sensors work
with a PhenomII which uses AMD K10 for temperature sensing.

sensors-detect detects it but there is no config file for that
configuration.

Many thanks for a hint,
Helmut.

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Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany



Re: [gentoo-user] Seamonkey, saving files after updating gtk+

2009-03-23 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 4:43 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 Hi,

 I'm not sure if the gtk+ update is relevant here but it was the only
 thing I could find that was recently upgraded that may fit.  It used to
 be that if I was saving a file, picture or attachment in Seamonkey and
 created a new folder, it would enter the new folder when I created it
 without me having to double click it.  Right now, I right click and
 select 'save file as' or 'save image as' and a pop up appears as usual.
 I then click 'create folder' and it makes a space in the directory for
 me to type in the name.  I do that then hit return and it creates the
 new folder but leaves me in the old folder that I was just in.  Example,
 I'm in /home/dale/Desktop and ask it to create /home/dale/Desktop/foo,
 the old way puts me in the foo directory.  The new way leaves me in
 /home/dale/Desktop.  I then have to double click the foo entry to enter
 it to save my file.

 I'm so used to the old way that I sometimes forget and end up with a lot
 of stuff on my desktop with no idea sometimes what folder it should be in.

 This is a list of the packages that were upgraded according to genlop:

 Fri Mar 20 04:58:16 2009  sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc26
 Fri Mar 20 04:58:16 2009  sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc26
 Fri Mar 20 04:58:51 2009  gnome-base/gnome-common-2.24.0
 Fri Mar 20 05:03:58 2009  dev-libs/libxml2-2.7.3
 Fri Mar 20 05:04:53 2009  dev-libs/libgamin-0.1.10-r2
 Fri Mar 20 05:06:06 2009  media-libs/audiofile-0.2.6-r4
 Fri Mar 20 05:07:19 2009  x11-libs/pixman-0.12.0
 Fri Mar 20 05:08:56 2009  x11-libs/cairo-1.8.6-r1
 Fri Mar 20 05:10:24 2009  dev-java/gjdoc-0.7.9-r1
 Fri Mar 20 05:11:22 2009  app-text/iso-codes-3.6
 Fri Mar 20 05:11:34 2009  x11-misc/icon-naming-utils-0.8.7
 Fri Mar 20 05:13:18 2009  x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.24.0
 Fri Mar 20 05:18:05 2009  dev-libs/glib-2.18.4-r1
 Fri Mar 20 05:20:26 2009  x11-libs/pango-1.22.4
 Fri Mar 20 05:20:59 2009  dev-libs/atk-1.24.0
 Fri Mar 20 05:22:17 2009  net-libs/libsoup-2.24.3
 Fri Mar 20 05:23:10 2009  dev-libs/libcroco-0.6.2
 Fri Mar 20 05:24:20 2009  dev-python/pygobject-2.16.1
 Fri Mar 20 05:40:42 2009  x11-libs/gtk+-2.14.7-r2
 Fri Mar 20 05:42:35 2009  gnome-base/gconf-2.24.0
 Fri Mar 20 05:42:46 2009  gnome-base/gail-1000
 Fri Mar 20 05:44:10 2009  x11-libs/libwnck-2.24.2
 Fri Mar 20 05:45:49 2009  gnome-base/gnome-keyring-2.22.3-r1
 Fri Mar 20 05:48:19 2009  dev-python/pygtk-2.14.0
 Fri Mar 20 05:49:32 2009  gnome-extra/libgsf-1.14.11
 Fri Mar 20 05:51:12 2009  gnome-base/librsvg-2.22.3
 Fri Mar 20 05:56:03 2009  gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.24.0
 Fri Mar 20 05:57:01 2009  gnome-base/libgnome-2.24.1
 Fri Mar 20 06:00:45 2009  gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.24.0
 Fri Mar 20 06:03:40 2009  gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.24.0
 Fri Mar 20 06:14:03 2009 
 gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-2.24.5-r2

 Is this because of the gtk+ upgrade?  If not, any idea what could cause
 this?  If it is the upgrade, how do I go back to the old way when it
 goes into the folder automatically?

 Thanks for any ideas you may have.
 

 Have you changed GTK themes lately? I know some behaviors and button
 layouts can be affected by it. I recently changed mine, and the order
 of cancel and overwrite in the This file already exists dialog
 box was reversed when compared to the old theme. I think I have clied
 the wrong one about 90% of the time so far.


   

Well, I don't know how to change GTK themes so I would most likely think
I have not changed it.  How does one check into this?  I'm thinking
about going back one version of gtk to see if it goes back to the old
way.  I seem to have read somewhere that Seamonkey uses gtk for those
windows tho.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] lm_sensors for AMD K10

2009-03-23 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Helmut Jarausch
jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
 Hi,

 does anybody know about a patch to make lm_sensors work
 with a PhenomII which uses AMD K10 for temperature sensing.

 sensors-detect detects it but there is no config file for that
 configuration.

 Many thanks for a hint,
 Helmut.

It looks like there was a discussion in the lm-sensors mailing list
about it last year:

http://lists.lm-sensors.org/pipermail/lm-sensors/2008-April/022909.html

Maybe you can check their list archives or contact them to see what
the status of the driver is.



[gentoo-user] Syslog-ng using a spectacular amount of CPU time... (I'm using sshguard)

2009-03-23 Thread Steve
Has anyone any ideas?  The syslog-ng is the usually the first line 
reported by top:


4097 root  20   0  3120 1060  708 R 48.3  0.1 677:46.38 syslog-ng

The files in /var/log seem to be growing at an expected slow pace and 
aren't reporting anything unexpected.  I followed a 'howto' and have 
sshguard running.  This (comments stripped) is what I have in 
/etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf

options {
chain_hostnames(off);
sync(0);
stats(43200);
};

source src {
unix-stream(/dev/log max-connections(256));
internal();
file(/proc/kmsg);
};

destination messages { file(/var/log/messages); };
destination console_all { file(/dev/tty12); };
log { source(src); destination(messages); };
log { source(src); destination(console_all); };
destination authlog { file(/var/log/auth.log); };
destination authlog { file(/var/log/auth.log); };
filter f_authpriv { facility(auth, authpriv); };
log { source(src); filter(f_authpriv); destination(authlog); };
filter sshlogs { facility(auth, authpriv) and match(sshd); };
destination sshguardproc {
program(/usr/local/sbin/sshguard
template($DATE $FULLHOST $MESSAGE\n));
};
log { source(src); filter(sshlogs); destination(sshguardproc); };





Re: [gentoo-user] Seamonkey, saving files after updating gtk+

2009-03-23 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Paul Hartman
 paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Paul Hartman wrote:
   
 On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 4:43 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Hi,

 I'm not sure if the gtk+ update is relevant here but it was the only
 thing I could find that was recently upgraded that may fit.  It used to
 be that if I was saving a file, picture or attachment in Seamonkey and
 created a new folder, it would enter the new folder when I created it
 without me having to double click it.  Right now, I right click and
 select 'save file as' or 'save image as' and a pop up appears as usual.
 I then click 'create folder' and it makes a space in the directory for
 me to type in the name.  I do that then hit return and it creates the
 new folder but leaves me in the old folder that I was just in.  Example,
 I'm in /home/dale/Desktop and ask it to create /home/dale/Desktop/foo,
 the old way puts me in the foo directory.  The new way leaves me in
 /home/dale/Desktop.  I then have to double click the foo entry to enter
 it to save my file.

 I'm so used to the old way that I sometimes forget and end up with a lot
 of stuff on my desktop with no idea sometimes what folder it should be in.

 This is a list of the packages that were upgraded according to genlop:

 Fri Mar 20 04:58:16 2009  sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc26
 Fri Mar 20 04:58:16 2009  sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc26
 Fri Mar 20 04:58:51 2009  gnome-base/gnome-common-2.24.0
 Fri Mar 20 05:03:58 2009  dev-libs/libxml2-2.7.3
 Fri Mar 20 05:04:53 2009  dev-libs/libgamin-0.1.10-r2
 Fri Mar 20 05:06:06 2009  media-libs/audiofile-0.2.6-r4
 Fri Mar 20 05:07:19 2009  x11-libs/pixman-0.12.0
 Fri Mar 20 05:08:56 2009  x11-libs/cairo-1.8.6-r1
 Fri Mar 20 05:10:24 2009  dev-java/gjdoc-0.7.9-r1
 Fri Mar 20 05:11:22 2009  app-text/iso-codes-3.6
 Fri Mar 20 05:11:34 2009  x11-misc/icon-naming-utils-0.8.7
 Fri Mar 20 05:13:18 2009  x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.24.0
 Fri Mar 20 05:18:05 2009  dev-libs/glib-2.18.4-r1
 Fri Mar 20 05:20:26 2009  x11-libs/pango-1.22.4
 Fri Mar 20 05:20:59 2009  dev-libs/atk-1.24.0
 Fri Mar 20 05:22:17 2009  net-libs/libsoup-2.24.3
 Fri Mar 20 05:23:10 2009  dev-libs/libcroco-0.6.2
 Fri Mar 20 05:24:20 2009  dev-python/pygobject-2.16.1
 Fri Mar 20 05:40:42 2009  x11-libs/gtk+-2.14.7-r2
 Fri Mar 20 05:42:35 2009  gnome-base/gconf-2.24.0
 Fri Mar 20 05:42:46 2009  gnome-base/gail-1000
 Fri Mar 20 05:44:10 2009  x11-libs/libwnck-2.24.2
 Fri Mar 20 05:45:49 2009  gnome-base/gnome-keyring-2.22.3-r1
 Fri Mar 20 05:48:19 2009  dev-python/pygtk-2.14.0
 Fri Mar 20 05:49:32 2009  gnome-extra/libgsf-1.14.11
 Fri Mar 20 05:51:12 2009  gnome-base/librsvg-2.22.3
 Fri Mar 20 05:56:03 2009  gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.24.0
 Fri Mar 20 05:57:01 2009  gnome-base/libgnome-2.24.1
 Fri Mar 20 06:00:45 2009  gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.24.0
 Fri Mar 20 06:03:40 2009  gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.24.0
 Fri Mar 20 06:14:03 2009 
 gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-2.24.5-r2

 Is this because of the gtk+ upgrade?  If not, any idea what could cause
 this?  If it is the upgrade, how do I go back to the old way when it
 goes into the folder automatically?

 Thanks for any ideas you may have.

   
 Have you changed GTK themes lately? I know some behaviors and button
 layouts can be affected by it. I recently changed mine, and the order
 of cancel and overwrite in the This file already exists dialog
 box was reversed when compared to the old theme. I think I have clied
 the wrong one about 90% of the time so far.



 
 Well, I don't know how to change GTK themes so I would most likely think
 I have not changed it.  How does one check into this?  I'm thinking
 about going back one version of gtk to see if it goes back to the old
 way.  I seem to have read somewhere that Seamonkey uses gtk for those
 windows tho.
   
 In KDE there's an option in the control panel to change the GTK theme.
 If you use something else, I believe you can emerge gtk-theme-switch.
 Also try to search portage for packages beginning with gtk-engines
 (and perhaps emerge the package gtk-engines itself). I recently
 switched from gtk-engines-qt, which uses my KDE theme (poorly), to
 gtk-engines-qtcurve, which looks quite nice and fits in well enough
 with the default KDE4 theme, other than the backwards button
 placement.

 

 Oops, i meant I had been using gtk-engines-kde4 not gtk-engines-qt


   

I went to the KDE control center, I haven't been in there in ages.  I
think there is something different with the new version of gtk or
something.  I haven't changed anything else in a long while.  Sort of
got everything like I want it until now anyway.

I may try going back to the old version to test this theory.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



[gentoo-user] can't upgrade to latest pkg

2009-03-23 Thread maxim wexler

Hi group,

I did eix-sync and upgraded portage but when I try to upgrade gentoo-sources 
portage wants to get v2.6.27 and for tuxonice-sources it goes for v2.6.24.

How do I tell portage to get the latest packages?

Maxim


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[gentoo-user] Re: can't upgrade to latest pkg

2009-03-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

maxim wexler wrote:

Hi group,

I did eix-sync and upgraded portage but when I try to upgrade gentoo-sources 
portage wants to get v2.6.27 and for tuxonice-sources it goes for v2.6.24.

How do I tell portage to get the latest packages?


By keywording them.  By default, portage only installed latest stable 
packages.  To get testing packages too, place their atoms in 
/etc/portage/package.keywords.  For example, to get the latest 
gentoo-sources, you can do insert this line:


  sys-kernel/gentoo-sources

in /etc/portage/package.keywords.




Re: [gentoo-user] can't upgrade to latest pkg

2009-03-23 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
maxim wexler schrieb am 23.03.2009 17:08:
 I did eix-sync and upgraded portage but when I try to upgrade gentoo-sources 
 portage wants to get v2.6.27 and for tuxonice-sources it goes for v2.6.24.
 
 How do I tell portage to get the latest packages?

These are the latest stable versions. If you want testing versions you
need to put the into /etc/portage/package.keywords [1].

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3chap=3

Regards,

Daniel



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Re: [gentoo-user] can't upgrade to latest pkg

2009-03-23 Thread maxim wexler

 These are the latest stable versions. If you want testing
 versions you
 need to put the into /etc/portage/package.keywords [1].
 
 [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3chap=3
 

Nope,

Using the model given:

app-office/gnumeric ~x86

like this:

=sys-kernel/tuxonice-sources-2.6.28 ~x86 

in package.keywords, gives the same result as above.

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Re: [gentoo-user] can't upgrade to latest pkg

2009-03-23 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
maxim wexler schrieb am 23.03.2009 18:43:
 Nope,
 
 Using the model given:
 
 app-office/gnumeric ~x86
 
 like this:
 
 =sys-kernel/tuxonice-sources-2.6.28 ~x86 
 
 in package.keywords, gives the same result as above.

No wonder =sys-kernel/tuxonice-sources-2.6.28 does not exist :-) With =
you set ~x86 keywords for exact that version.

eix tuxonice-sources
* sys-kernel/tuxonice-sources
 Available versions:
(2.6.24-r9) 2.6.24-r9!b!s
(2.6.28-r3) (~)2.6.28-r3!b!s
(2.6.28-r4) (~)2.6.28-r4!b!s
(2.6.28-r5) (~)2.6.28-r5!b!s
(2.6.28-r7) (~)2.6.28-r7!b!s
(2.6.28-r8) (~)2.6.28-r8!b!s

So you need to set either this:
=sys-kernel/tuxonice-sources-2.6.28-r8 ~x86
to set keywords for exact the specified version

or this
=sys-kernel/tuxonice-sources-2.6.28 ~x86
to set keywords for any higher version than the specified

or better this
~sys-kernel/tuxonice-sources-2.6.28 ~x86
to set keywords for any revision of the specifies version

Regards,

Daniel



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Re: [gentoo-user] can't upgrade to latest pkg-FIXED

2009-03-23 Thread maxim wexler


 =sys-kernel/tuxonice-sources-2.6.28 ~x86

Yeah, I just found this out and rushed back but you beat me to it:)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing physical volume for lvm.

2009-03-23 Thread Mick
On Sunday 22 March 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 Caveat: I have no idea why this doesn't work, but if you make sda4 an
 extended partition and create sda5 as a logical with exactly the same start
 and end as you describe above, you do in fact lose all data. Obviously
 there is a difference between a physical and a logical partition with the
 same location, but I don't know why this is.

I think that this is because the extended partition contains the extended 
partition table at its boot sector.  A primary partition at the same position 
does not and therefore has a different offset.  Having spent some interesting 
white-knuckle-ride moments with testdisk, I realised that carelessly 
switching between primary and extended/logical partitions is not something I 
would like to try again - unless I am playing around in a test environment.

 Which is a pity, as 4 logical partitions is a little too constrictive, 

Do you mean primary?

 I 
 prefer the extra freedom to move things around with extended partitions.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Syslog-ng using a spectacular amount of CPU time... (I'm using sshguard)

2009-03-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 23 March 2009 21:27:15 Steve wrote:
 Steve wrote:
  destination sshguardproc {
  program(/usr/local/sbin/sshguard
  template($DATE $FULLHOST $MESSAGE\n));
  };

 The presence of the above line is definitely what triggers the excessive
 CPU usage - it is almost as-if syslog-ng is 'busy-waiting' for the
 sshguard process.  The sshguard process is running - but using zero CPU.

 I have this problem with syslog-ng versions 2.1.3 and 2.1.4 (the one
 with ~x86)...

 This is very frustrating... having played around, the syslog-ng tends
 towards using 100% CPU when my server is otherwise quiet - if, and only
 if, I have the program destination... even if the destination is not used.

One word:

blocking

I find this is usually the cause for higher than normal CPU load as reported 
by top and other tools. If the load is pegged at exactly 100%, it's almost a 
sure sign that some process is IO blocking on an idle system, and all the 
process is doing is checking if IO is available, see it isn't, goes to sleep, 
wakes up, rinse and repeat.

In short: top lies, and load does not mean what most people think it means. 
The correct definition is average number of processes that are waiting for 
cpu time within the measurement period. 

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Syslog-ng using a spectacular amount of CPU time... (I'm using sshguard)

2009-03-23 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Steve (gentoo_...@shic.co.uk) [23.03.09 20:27]:
 Steve wrote:
  destination sshguardproc {
  program(/usr/local/sbin/sshguard
  template($DATE $FULLHOST $MESSAGE\n));
  };
 

program() only takes 1 argument: the programname.

Any thing you want to pass, you have to define via a log statement.

BTW: Just curious: you do not use the sshguard from portage, or why is 
it a /usr/local/sbin?

HTH
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Re: [gentoo-user] Syslog-ng using a spectacular amount of CPU time... (I'm using sshguard)

2009-03-23 Thread Steve

Steve wrote:

Do others get this behaviour - is this a bug in syslog-ng?


Sorry for the multiple posts... a slight error on my part.  The sshguard 
process wasn't running - a /bin/sh process trying to spawn it was 
running (there was no link from /usr/local... to the binary) and when 
the binary failed to execute - syslog-ng got itself into a tiz.  
Everything seems to work fine when I correct the path to the program.


Problem solved - but, I guess, this is a flaw in syslog-ng... I'd have 
hoped it would generate an error message rather than behave as it did.






Re: [gentoo-user] Syslog-ng using a spectacular amount of CPU time... (I'm using sshguard)

2009-03-23 Thread Steve

Sebastian Günther wrote:

program() only takes 1 argument: the programname.
  
There aren't two arguments (no comma) - and, yes, the syntax is odd - 
but it is exactly what is given by the sshguard man page - and seems to 
be confirmed by the syslog-ng manual, too.
BTW: Just curious: you do not use the sshguard from portage, or why is 
it a /usr/local/sbin?
  
That was my error (a really dumb one!) I'd assumed that the binary from 
portage was running - whereas my process list showed /bin/sh failing to 
run a non-existent program.


I guess the man page could be improved for gentoo by giving an example 
using the default install location for sshguard - but that's a very 
minor issue.


I'd expected better error reporting by syslog-ng for a faulty 
configuration - ho-hum.






Re: [gentoo-user] Syslog-ng using a spectacular amount of CPU time... (I'm using sshguard)

2009-03-23 Thread Steve

Alan McKinnon wrote:
In short: top lies, 
  

On this occasion, top was telling the truth. ;)



Re: [gentoo-user] Syslog-ng using a spectacular amount of CPU time... (I'm using sshguard)

2009-03-23 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Steve gentoo_...@shic.co.uk wrote:
 Steve wrote:

 Do others get this behaviour - is this a bug in syslog-ng?

 Sorry for the multiple posts... a slight error on my part.  The sshguard
 process wasn't running - a /bin/sh process trying to spawn it was running
 (there was no link from /usr/local... to the binary) and when the binary
 failed to execute - syslog-ng got itself into a tiz.  Everything seems to
 work fine when I correct the path to the program.

 Problem solved - but, I guess, this is a flaw in syslog-ng... I'd have hoped
 it would generate an error message rather than behave as it did.

I had a possibly similar problem a while back with syslog-ng going
crazy when a certain daemon would crash (in my case it filled up the
log wit about 60 gigabytes of the same thing repeated over and over,
in addition to using massive CPU%). I switched to metalog and haven't
had any problems since.



[gentoo-user] gentoo on a usb stick

2009-03-23 Thread maxim wexler

Hi group,

I was planning to put the i686-2008.0-LiveCD-installer on a USB stick and 
install it on a Asus 900A eeePC. But I understand the kernel on the CD is 
v2.6.27 and therefore there is no Atheros driver for the eee's on-board wifi. 
Can someone confirm this? 

If true, can I simply add the driver after the fact? Any body done this 
successfully?

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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo on a usb stick

2009-03-23 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
maxim wexler schrieb am 23.03.2009 22:31:
 I was planning to put the i686-2008.0-LiveCD-installer on a USB stick and 
 install it on a Asus 900A eeePC. But I understand the kernel on the CD is 
 v2.6.27 and therefore there is no Atheros driver for the eee's on-board 
 wifi. Can someone confirm this? 
 
 If true, can I simply add the driver after the fact? Any body done this 
 successfully?


You may want to take a look at the SystemRescueCd [1] afaik it is based
on gentoo and more up to date. It is also possible to install it on a
live-cd.

[1] http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page

Regards,

Daniel



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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo on a usb stick

2009-03-23 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Daniel Pielmeier schrieb am 23.03.2009 22:40:
 You may want to take a look at the SystemRescueCd [1] afaik it is based
 on gentoo and more up to date. It is also possible to install it on a
 live-cd.

Of course I want to say. You can install it on an usb-stick :-)



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[gentoo-user] Re: can't upgrade to latest pkg

2009-03-23 Thread ABCD
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Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
 maxim wexler schrieb am 23.03.2009 18:43:
 Nope,

 Using the model given:

 app-office/gnumeric ~x86

 like this:

 =sys-kernel/tuxonice-sources-2.6.28 ~x86 

 in package.keywords, gives the same result as above.
 
 No wonder =sys-kernel/tuxonice-sources-2.6.28 does not exist :-) With =
 you set ~x86 keywords for exact that version.
 
 eix tuxonice-sources
 * sys-kernel/tuxonice-sources
  Available versions:
   (2.6.24-r9) 2.6.24-r9!b!s
   (2.6.28-r3) (~)2.6.28-r3!b!s
   (2.6.28-r4) (~)2.6.28-r4!b!s
   (2.6.28-r5) (~)2.6.28-r5!b!s
   (2.6.28-r7) (~)2.6.28-r7!b!s
   (2.6.28-r8) (~)2.6.28-r8!b!s
 
 So you need to set either this:
 =sys-kernel/tuxonice-sources-2.6.28-r8 ~x86
 to set keywords for exact the specified version
 
 or this
 =sys-kernel/tuxonice-sources-2.6.28 ~x86
 to set keywords for any higher version than the specified
 
 or better this
 ~sys-kernel/tuxonice-sources-2.6.28 ~x86
 to set keywords for any revision of the specifies version
 
 Regards,
 
 Daniel
 

Also note, that the ~x86 part is now optional.  If you do not specify
any keywords, then ~${ARCH} is assumed (in this case ARCH=x86, so you
get ~x86 - this can help for keeping the same p.keywords file for two
different systems running on two different architectures, for example,
my amd64 chroot on my x86 box)

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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo on a usb stick

2009-03-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:40:30 +0100, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:

  I was planning to put the i686-2008.0-LiveCD-installer on a USB stick
  and install it on a Asus 900A eeePC. But I understand the kernel on
  the CD is v2.6.27 and therefore there is no Atheros driver for the
  eee's on-board wifi. Can someone confirm this? 
  
  If true, can I simply add the driver after the fact? Any body done
  this successfully?  
 
 
 You may want to take a look at the SystemRescueCd [1] afaik it is based
 on gentoo and more up to date.

You could also use a more recent Gentoo CD, look in the autobuilds
directory of any mirror. But I'd stick with System Rescue CD, it's so
easy to install to a USB stick.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?

2009-03-23 Thread Dale
Albert Hopkins wrote:
 On Sun, 2009-03-22 at 22:18 -0500, Dale wrote:
   
 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 
 On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:26:40 -0500, Dale wrote:

   
   
 emerge -pvDu --reinstall changed-use @world

 ??? Certainly a lot more typing. ;-)
 
 
   
   
 Use an alias and it's less typing.
   
   
   
   
 Or add it to make.conf.  I think that would work too.
 
 
 It would work, every time you called emerge, whether you wanted that
 option or not.I prefer to have  aliases for commands with options that I
 call often, but not every time.


   
   
 I'm not real familiar with aliases but know what it is.  If you use the
 alias method, how would you disable it for a one time run? 
 

 Uh.. you don't disable it.  You simply don't use the alias.


   

Oh, OK.  Dale waves hand over head.  If it is set up to add that
option, how do you tell it not to use it?

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?

2009-03-23 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
2009/3/23 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com:
 Oh, OK.  Dale waves hand over head.  If it is set up to add that
 option, how do you tell it not to use it?

alias ls='/bin/ls --color'
alias l='ls -l'

With these aliases in your .bashrc (or whatever is appropriate in your
environment), you can now use 'ls' and 'l'. Of course, you already had
'ls' (namely /bin/ls).

If you simply type 'ls' then you are using the alias and you get
colour output. If you don't want colour output you use '/bin/ls' (the
actual binary). Typing 'l' basically runs '/bin/ls --color -l'. If you
don't want that then you don't use 'l'.



Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?

2009-03-23 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 18:58 -0500, Dale wrote:
 Albert Hopkins wrote:
  On Sun, 2009-03-22 at 22:18 -0500, Dale wrote:

  Neil Bothwick wrote:
  
  On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:26:40 -0500, Dale wrote:
 


  emerge -pvDu --reinstall changed-use @world
 
  ??? Certainly a lot more typing. ;-)
  
  


  Use an alias and it's less typing.




  Or add it to make.conf.  I think that would work too.
  
  
  It would work, every time you called emerge, whether you wanted that
  option or not.I prefer to have  aliases for commands with options that I
  call often, but not every time.
 
 


  I'm not real familiar with aliases but know what it is.  If you use the
  alias method, how would you disable it for a one time run? 
  
 
  Uh.. you don't disable it.  You simply don't use the alias.
 
 

 
 Oh, OK.  Dale waves hand over head.  If it is set up to add that
 option, how do you tell it not to use it?

Unless I'm misunderstanding something... 

It's not an option. It's an alias.  If you have

$ alias myalias=emerge --foo --bar --baz

Then to use the alias you simply type

$ myalias

If you don't want to use the alias, well, don't type it. I.e.

$ emerge --la --di --dah

or

$ someotheralias

Or perhaps you don't aren't understanding what shell aliases are?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alias_(command)





Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?

2009-03-23 Thread James Skinner
Man. Is this thread really going to continue??

On 3/23/09, Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 18:58 -0500, Dale wrote:
 Albert Hopkins wrote:
  On Sun, 2009-03-22 at 22:18 -0500, Dale wrote:
 
  Neil Bothwick wrote:
 
  On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:26:40 -0500, Dale wrote:
 
 
 
  emerge -pvDu --reinstall changed-use @world
 
  ??? Certainly a lot more typing. ;-)
 
 
 
 
  Use an alias and it's less typing.
 
 
 
 
  Or add it to make.conf.  I think that would work too.
 
 
  It would work, every time you called emerge, whether you wanted that
  option or not.I prefer to have  aliases for commands with options that
  I
  call often, but not every time.
 
 
 
 
  I'm not real familiar with aliases but know what it is.  If you use the
  alias method, how would you disable it for a one time run?
 
 
  Uh.. you don't disable it.  You simply don't use the alias.
 
 
 

 Oh, OK.  Dale waves hand over head.  If it is set up to add that
 option, how do you tell it not to use it?

 Unless I'm misunderstanding something...

 It's not an option. It's an alias.  If you have

 $ alias myalias=emerge --foo --bar --baz

 Then to use the alias you simply type

 $ myalias

 If you don't want to use the alias, well, don't type it. I.e.

 $ emerge --la --di --dah

 or

 $ someotheralias

 Or perhaps you don't aren't understanding what shell aliases are?

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alias_(command)





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Re: [gentoo-user] Who mount sysfs?

2009-03-23 Thread SOrCErEr
2009/3/24 Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org

 On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 10:38 +0900, SOrCErEr wrote:
  Hello,
 
  My gentoo system has a problem.
  It has not mounted sysfs while boot process.
  I have to do mount sysfs by my hand now.
 
  Of course, udev rc scripts has line of need sysfs. And udev rc
  script was added in sysinit service.
  So I would like to know who mounts sysfs when Gentoo in boot process
  in general.

 Your friends at udev.

 The need sysfs means that udev needs the sysfs service to start.  Of
 course it's wrapped around a if [ -f /etc/init.d/sysfs ]; then... so
 is that file missing?





No, that isn't. That file exists.
So I tested like below.

/etc/init.d/udev stop
/etc/init.d/sysfs stop
/etc/init.d/udev start
/etc/init.d/sysfs status

Result is
* status: stopped

Actually, sysfs rc strip has no stop function. So sysfs is not unmounted.
But in my opinion, status of sysfs must be started after udev started.

...

I fix this problem while I write this mail.

I renamed sysfs rc strip filename and restarted udev to check whether it
fails or not.
And I confirmed it failed.
Then restored sysfs rc strip filename and started udev.

Surprisingly** sysfs started automatically before start udev. It fixed.

Still I don't know why it happened. It's very confuse

Anyway, thank you for your help:)
Your comments are helping me to do some more things:)


Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?

2009-03-23 Thread Dale
Hilco Wijbenga wrote:
 2009/3/23 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com:
   
 Oh, OK.  Dale waves hand over head.  If it is set up to add that
 option, how do you tell it not to use it?
 

 alias ls='/bin/ls --color'
 alias l='ls -l'

 With these aliases in your .bashrc (or whatever is appropriate in your
 environment), you can now use 'ls' and 'l'. Of course, you already had
 'ls' (namely /bin/ls).

 If you simply type 'ls' then you are using the alias and you get
 colour output. If you don't want colour output you use '/bin/ls' (the
 actual binary). Typing 'l' basically runs '/bin/ls --color -l'. If you
 don't want that then you don't use 'l'.


   


Oh, Cool..  I see now.  So basically you sort of change the command as
well.  Now that command that someone else posted makes sense too.

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-)