Re: [geo] CDR money in DE-FOA-0000785?

2013-03-19 Thread RAU greg
Thanks, Mark. 

To quote the FOA:
A market-based solution to improve the economics of CO2 capture includes the 
utilization of captured CO2 for EOR to reduce anthropogenic CO2 emissions from 
coal-based power generation sources while improving energy security. A National 
Energy Technology Laboratory (NETL) study[1] estimates that the utilization of 
approximately 20 billion tonnes of CO2 captured from coal-fired power plants, 
natural sources, and industrial sources in EOR applications could produce up to 
67 billion barrels of domestic oil from economically recoverable resources.

So let's see if I understand this. If 0.42 tonnes of CO2 are released to the 
atmosphere per barrel of oil, the 67 Bbls of oil produced from 20 Gt CO2 
injected will unsequester 28 GT CO2.  Considering that power plant CO2 would 
only make up 18 GT of the injected CO2 (see fine print)  means that 1.6 GT CO2 
would be unsequestered for every tonne of anthro CO2 injected.  The current 
CO2-EOR industry average is more like 3 GT CO2 out per GT injected and it is 
unclear what the economic motivation would be to lower this ratio given the 
high 
cost of CCS CO2 relative to conventional geologic CO2 sources for EOR. 

Then there is this interesting analogy offered to put things in perspective: 
However, large numbers such as billions of tons of CO2 demand and storage 
capacity are different [sic] to grasp and thus often of limited value. An 
alternative way to illustrate the CO2 demand and storage capacity offered by 
“Next Generation” CO2-EOR is to use the metric of the number of one-GW size 
power plants that could rely on CO2-EOR for purchasing and storing their 
captured CO2:
 After subtracting out the 2.3 billion metric tons of CO2 supply currently 
available, CO2-EOR still offers sufficient technical storage capacity for all 
of 
the anthropogenic CO2 captured from 228 one-GW size coal-fired power plants for 
30 years of operation. [1]

What is not stated is that the equivalent CO2 emissions of 365 one-GW 
coal-fired 
power plants x 30 years will be unsequestered and released to the atmosphere 
via 
the oil produced and combusted. This does not square with the FOA's stated 
intent: ...to provide solutions for addressing the CO2 emission and global 
climate change concerns ...

In any case, a cost of concentrated CO2 of $61/tonne is the stated goal, a 
real 
challenge for retrofit CCS at conventional power plants, and a miracle for CDR 
(Socolow et al., House et al.). Those offering to mitigate CO2 by (cheaper) 
means other than making conc CO2 (for EOR) need not apply (FOA, pg. 7), and can 
continue to wait for meaningful policy and public funding in support of ideas 
that might actually help save the world rather that perpetuate BAU.

-Greg


 
[1]Dipietro, Philip, Improving Domestic Energy Security and Lowering CO2 
Emissions with “Improving Domestic Energy Security and Lowering CO2 Emissions 
with “Next Generation” CO2-Enhanced Oil Recovery (CO2-EOR)”, Report # 
DOE/NETL-2011/1504, June 2011. 
http://www.netl.doe.gov/energy-analyses/pubs/NextGen_CO2_EOR_06142011.pdf




From: markcap...@podenergy.org markcap...@podenergy.org
To: geoengineering geoengineering@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, March 19, 2013 7:07:03 AM
Subject: [geo] CDR money in DE-FOA-785?

The U.S. Department of Energy seaks proposals for capturing coal exhause CO2, 
due May 2nd.  They expect the captured CO2 will be used for Enhansed Oil 
Recovery.  

 
If you have a capture-CO2-from-air (CDR) system that could be located close to 
an oil well and might therefore be less expensive than capture-from-exhaust, 
you 
might propose.  DOE is likely to consider such a proposal non-responsive.  


Bench- and Pilot-Scale Applications for Research and Development of 
Post-Combustion and Pre-Combustion Carbon Dioxide Capture Technologies for 
Coal-Fired Power Plants
 
Funding Opportunity Number:   DE-FOA-785 

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[geo] Negative emissions event - slides now available

2013-03-19 Thread Andrew Lockley
Poster's note - follow link for slides.  Talk 1 had some particularly
useful numbers.

https://connect.innovateuk.org/web/negative-emission-technologies/articles/-/blogs/the-negative-emission-technologies-community-launch-event;jsessionid=EF3D370E8BC952966BEF87B0EE64B2D2.c6e65d2a570?ns_33_redirect=%2Fweb%2Fnegative-emission-technologies%2Farticles

The Negative Emission Technologies Community Launch Event
By: Jenni McDonnell
March 15, 2013 7:39 AM

On Wednesday 13th March the ESKTN in collaboration with Oxford
Geoengineeering hosted the Negative Emission Technologies Community
Launch event at the Royal Academy of Engineers in London.

With an excellent line up of speakers the event was well received by
the delegates who heard from industry and academia on the main carbon
removal technologies as well as an overview of the social, engineering
and environmental aspects of negative emission technologies (NETs).

All the presentations from the event are available to view below and
the comments made by delegates in the roundtable discussions will also
be posted on the community next week.

1. Prof Tim Lenton, University of Exeter - Can Negative emissions help
avoid climate tipping points?
2. Mike Childs, Friends of the Earth - Potential Social Impacts
3. Prof Richard Darton, University of Oxford - Engineering Capability
4. Dr Phil Williamson, University of East Anglia/NERC - Ocean Iron Fertilisation
5.  Mike Weaver, Pyreg UK - Biochar, an industry perspective
6. Henrik Karlsson, Biorecro - BECCS, an industry perspective
7. Dr Tim Fox, Institution of Mechanical Engineers - Air Capture, an
industry perspective
8. Dr Phil Renforth, University of Oxford - Enhanced Weathering
9. Dr Michael Priestnall, Cambridge Carbon Capture - Mineral Carbonation
10. Tim Kruger, University of Oxford - Oxford Geoengineering Programme

If you have any questions about NETs or the event please contact Jenni
McDonnell on jenni.mcdonn...@esktn.org.

A roadmapping event is planned for the autumn so keep an eye on the
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